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Originally Posted by Phulhouze
..V1 tanks for like 5 minutes. I was about to go to the bathroom or something. Finally told him to save his money, and he folded.
My question is whether I'm losing value here. V1 had very little dead money in pot, so though I lose showdown percentage w/ two callers (I lose to any K or Q), I wonder if the increased pot size would more than make up for the increased number of times I'd get sucked out on by having two players. My thought was that if I raised V1 would fold and V2 would call, and I just wanted to get heads-up w/ my AA. Is this playing scared money?
I'm not trying to be a dick or a douche but am going to give you some tough love.
The above highlighted bold is Fish and Donk think. This is what 90% of the players think. Notice the emotional language, "get sucked out on".
INternalize this statement. "When I have the best hand, I want as much money in the pot as POSSIBLE!"
Winning and losing is 100% irrelevant. The only thing that is relevant is making the most optimal +EV play, and the most optimal +EV play with AA preflop is to get as much money in the pot as possible. The range of hands that call your 4bet pre are QQ-AA, AK. AA is unlikely since you have AA so you are really looking at QQ, KK, AKs. IN fact, you may even be up against two players with KK which would just be awesome.
Fish and donks never think of themselves as fish or donks. They always rationalize their beliefs and make special exceptions for themselves. Don't. Recognize that the above is what fish do. Do some soul searching and work to erase these scared money tendencies.
The only reason for you to say "save your money" is if you have an inferior hand and are trying to get a better hand to fold.
I made a squeeze to isolate against a short stacker who went all in. I had TT, shoved, and the last player to act, a semi-nit was tanking and about to call. I knew he had JJ-QQ type hand so I said, "save your money, I got aces." He then folded his QQ hand face up, the short stacker had AQ, my TT holds up.
I know its hard, but you've got to start divorcing yourself from the money and only caring about +EV play. You've got to divorce yourself from the "emotion" and stop thinking in terms of "being sucked out on".
Fish and donks are always worried about "being sucked out on" and that influences a host of -EV decisions and bad play.
sorry to be a dick, but i don't know any other way to make this point