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04-19-2011 , 08:40 PM

Badb19

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 283

Game is rather passive with lots of check/calling preflop. Villain in hand is an older chinese guy who looks fishy but dont know for sure since it's his first round.

Action:

Preflop
2 limps before me, i find 99 and make it 20. 3 calls behind and limpers complete so we see a 6-way flop

Pot: 120

Flop: 2x 5s 6s

It is checked to me and I fire 70, 2 folds Villain completes from SB and 2 more folds.

Pot: 260

Turn: 4x

He quickly checks and I check back

Pot

River: 9x

Villain insta shoves for his remaining 290, Hero covers

Hero: ?

Any comments on the rest of the hand are welcome

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04-19-2011 , 09:12 PM

RebeccaTwigley

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 8,073

Kind of sucks without any info on the villain. I think its a tight spot. I'd wait for a better spot to get my money in vs any of these type of guys. Why be in a tight spot for a call when you can be in a no brainer for a call in no time.

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04-19-2011 , 11:55 PM

Garick

Oberbiergenießer

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 26,624

Painful river to fold. Not sure if the turn looks like a missed c/r. I stoved it with a range of A3s, 22-66, As9s, AsJs-through AsKs and it put you at over 60% equity, but I don't know if that range is too much missed FD and sets, or not enough, and how many hands with a 3 I'm missing.

Still, I think there is a lot of missed FD in his range, so I prob call this. It is just such a common bad river bluff at this level.

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04-20-2011 , 12:21 AM

mark82880

grinder

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 427

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Originally Posted by Badb19

It's kinda gross, but you're at the absolute top of your range here, and I don't think Villain EVER expects you to show up with a hand as good as 999.

Also, I just feel like there are so few 3s Villain can/should show up with here. I know he's an old chinese guy... but he had to drop a fair amount of bbs to get here with T3ss.

I'm snapping this off and expecting to be staring at 87 or A3ss occasionally but good more than enough against an old chinese guy to justify it.

Sorry you lost. Or Hero Folded.

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04-20-2011 , 04:24 AM

Badb19

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 283

I dont think villain would shove his busted flushdraws here or other blufs. My hand is very face-up and I feel that most fishy players dont try to let people fold overpairs, simply because they wouldn't fold overpairs themselfs in this spot. I think the question is wheather Villain will shove his 2 pairs here, if he shoves all of his 2 pair combos it's an easy call, but if he shoves none it's a clear fold.

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04-20-2011 , 04:29 AM

canoodles

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 7,017

Call.

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04-20-2011 , 06:14 AM

jeanpaulvalley

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 682

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Originally Posted by Badb19

Unless you have an extremely unusual playing style, I strongly disagree that your hand is face-up here.

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04-20-2011 , 08:06 AM

Badb19

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 283

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Originally Posted by jeanpaulvalley

Unless you have an extremely unusual playing style, I strongly disagree that your hand is face-up here.

What am I cbetting 6way other than an overpair? Maybe a few flushdraws but that is only a very small portion of my entire range

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04-20-2011 , 08:31 AM

QJQJ

grinder

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 535

just a really brutal spot, agree with the first reply reeli, he prob has a three a lot, but what with i dont know, 33 seems v feasible tbh

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04-20-2011 , 08:45 AM

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Lime n Soda

adept

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 704

I'm calling here 100%, expecting villain to show up with 7,8 or a flush draw alot of the time. I mean you've checked back on the turn which shows weakness in the eyes of villain and i doubt he expects a call.

Also can showdown smaller sets/2pair combos which of course we beat. Do we expect villain to call the flop bet with A3, 33 for the gutshot? If he's got a 3, i'm expecting him to already flopped the straight. The only 3 in villains range that makes total sense to me is 3,4 although we beat waay too much to fold.

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04-20-2011 , 10:17 AM

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mark82880

grinder

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 427

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Originally Posted by jeanpaulvalley

Unless you have an extremely unusual playing style, I strongly disagree that your hand is face-up here.

+1.

I'm pretty confident Villain doesn't have you on a set of 9s.

If you think Villain is never bluffing with spades or shoving with 2pr or sets, well sure... you should fold. But I don't see why you'd believe that with the information given, and I have hard time believing we're not good often enough to make this a call unless Villain is a nit and we know it.

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04-20-2011 , 11:12 AM

#12

Lime n Soda

adept

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 704

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Originally Posted by Badb19

I My hand is very face-up and I feel that most fishy players dont try to let people fold overpairs, simply because they wouldn't fold overpairs themselfs in this spot.

I actually do agree with you here that villain may put you on an overpair, 10,10 +. If this is correct, villain will be shoving with anything that has 1 pair beat, hoping for a call and you of course beat almost all of his range.

I just thought it's worth a mention that even if villain does show up with the 3, you still have outs

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04-20-2011 , 11:46 AM

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Mr Derk

centurion

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 131

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Originally Posted by Lime n Soda

Yeah you can always make a boat on the sea, i instacall here.

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04-20-2011 , 12:48 PM

#14

flakydorf

enthusiast

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 83

There is no way your hand is face-up. With the turn check you have a ton of missed draws yourself, as well as a value range consisting highly of overpairs. You're hugely under repped. Im not thrilled about a call but I think you have to against his (supposedly) wide bluff/value range.

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