Playing in a nice loose 1/2 with a 6 straddle.

Table has been loose pre, not so much straight forward post but still predictable.

V1 - $160 Gamble type asian guy. He will bet draws and he will get his money in on on TP type hands. He's stuck about $400 ATM. Pre he is loose, post will gamble it up and chase draws, bet draws, shove's a lot.

Hero - $600 Playing pretty much rock tight. Been folding some hands in LP that are probably playable. Generally when I raise I am getting a couple of callers and they will play back at me. However they know I'm not pushed around easily. They have seen me c/r draws, raise on draws, etc etc. I raised one draw huge tonight. Other than that tighter than tight.

(7 handed) Folds to button who calls $6

Hero SB 10 10 calls $5 - I rarely ever raise in the SB with pp's up to JJ. I especially do not raise when I know there are gamblers at the table and any raise I make will be called and I have to play OOP the whole way. I will raise when the table dynamics are different. I think flatting and raising here are probably close, but I'll listen to both sides. I like the flatting aspect also when I know there are people on the table that I can easily read and they marry to TP.

V1 BB calls $4

Straddle checks

Flop ($24)

3 7 6

Hero?

I don't mind playing pots oop with hands that crushes opponents range. If you can read them easily postflop even more so. You just get so much value from picking up $30 from one caller so so often. I don't think calling is horrible.

Post flop I bet/3 bet v described villain, assuming his sizing is normal.

There has been no raise. I would raise pre.

Post as played i would be really careful. Anybody can have anything.

Preflop I raise this. I want it folded preflop. If called I cbet.
You have to expect an A,K,Q,J on flop, and what do you do then with TT when you limped? Or if you limp and A,K,Q,J,T don't show on flop you have a connected board like this with hero being unsure how to proceed.
As played I bet flop pot sized.

Not raising pre especially with a straddle is a huge mistake.

Not IME. Straddle or not, in a loose preflop game, going 4 ways with TT OOP is not too fun. Considering an OP is going to flop 63% or w/e it is, and my opponents marry TP I think shoveling chips in the middle pre is a mistake. Unless or plan is to raise big pre and hopefully everyone folds... I'm not sure if thats a sound plan though.

This is stupid.

You have less than 30 straddles effective pre... there is just so much value with a hand like TT. Your hand plays much better HU than multiway, also. You raise because you want to bloat a pot that you have great equity in.

I'm all for limping/calling straddles outta the blinds with medium pairs, especially with biggish stacks. And I get what you mean about playing OOP in a 4way bloated pot. But in this situation, if we raise to a reasonable $25-$30, aren't we forcing villains to make a horrendous mistake if they call (putting in 1/6 of their stack preflop)? Plus, if I've read things right, we've only got a straddler and a limper on the button so far, so getting this HU seems pretty doable.

If button had a huge stack (it's not stated) then perhaps setmining here with TT (which is almost what we're doing in a multiway pot if BB comes along) is more acceptable?

Correct. TT is fairly easy to play 30straddles deep, even OOP.

I doubt that anyone can come up with a range of the various players for calling preflop that both makes the hero's hand difficult play postflop and yet limits immediate value to be had by raising with superior hands.

Button ~$200

Straddler ~$500

All players like seeing flops especially the straddler who makes big bluffs and forces you to big decisions. I've raised some earlier to ~30 and all limpers and straddler called. Yes TT is ahead of their range, but OOP I think we are losing value because we will be forced to c/f poker on OP boards unless we hit a set. I think donking into 3 players on an OP board pretty much turns our hand into a bluff on most boards.

If he is so bluffy, isn't even better? Why would you c/f if he is aggressive? Are you incapable of playing a hand unless you have top pair or better or something?

Thats one guy out of the 3. With him I may check/call some. But yeah Im not to excited about getting $500 in with a pair of tens. He does like he arr in move. Call me old school, but thats my play. Ive tried the high variance stuff qnd it iust doesnt seem to do well.

I was under the impression the straddler only had $160. Now that he's actually deep (as are we), I'm actually preferring the call preflop, which keeps the pot small OOP and see if we can hit a huge stacking hand.

I just looked at my HH and noticed I kind of gave the hand away. V1 is the BB with $160.
We went four to the flop:

Hero checked the flop
V1 BB bets $10
Straddler calls $10
Button calls $10

I'm pretty much hating life, but the small bet and the calls lead me to believe they are on draws. I'm basically preceeding with caution here and dont plan on going bezerko. Generally when I play JJ and TT like this and the board comes low rainbow I donk.

Hero calls $10

Turn ($64)

6

Hero?

Raise/fold the flop. As played check and reevaluate.

I think I passively play the flop like OP did. I think on this drawy board if we lead out we might get raised a lot, which kinda sucks (what, are we calling and then check/folding the turn?). Plus if all hell breaks out behind us we can quietly muck our overpair and move on to better spots.

On the turn, there's not a helluva lotta cards I'd like to see on the river, and I'm thinking giving everyone a free draw might suck. Bet/fold 1/2 the pot?

GcluelessnoobG

Since people refuse to fold second pair for $10 in most low games, I check here. Let's see the action. If we get bluffed here, we get bluffed. If the action is light or checked around by the guy with the 6, we can stack him on the river if we hit. He has a 6. He has to have the best hand, he thinks.

I don't think I'd call more than $15 on the turn unless it's heads-up.