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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
We don't have to stack someone for calling preflop to be +EV, but you are the one who mentioned people being 500BBs deep as part of your justification for calling the raise. That insinuates you might stack someone for 500BBs. In about 5000 hours of live poker and somewhere near 1 million hands online, Ive never ever seen that happen.
Im sure its happened, but using that stack size as justification is a bit ridiculous. The odds of that ever becoming a factor is ridiculously remote.
If you're 500bb deep effective, you can also win 100-300bb off them, which is definitely reasonable.
So if it's profitable to call here at say 250bb deep effective, then it's definitely profitable to call at 500bb deep effective. 500bb is inclusive 100bb-499bb, so I don't see your point. I never said we should call because we are winning 500bb at a reasonable frequency. I did justify my reason for calling is being 500bb deep, and that's inclusive of 200bb+.
That's like saying if effective stacks were 5000bb deep, and I said that as one of the many reasons we should call, that I'm wrong because we never stack someone for 5000bb deep. That point is extremely moot. We can still win say 100-300bb at a reasonable frequency.
Just seems like a straw man's argument to me.
Also, there is a chance that we stack someone for 500bb. Even though it's extremely low, say 0.001, it still exists. It's not zero.
I've seen a hand go where 450bb went into the middle.
You don't need to get all defensive; I'm not attacking you. It's just a general consensus that folding here is bad, and if you don't want to agree with that, then that's fine.
Last edited by Minatorr; 12-13-2018 at 11:02 PM.