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10-17-2012 , 11:31 PM
Trip Report: Garick takes a Bud Light drinker to the Great American Beer Festival

It wasn't easy. In fact, it took a massive prop-bet. If I'd lost, I would have had a tattoo of a prawn, at least as large as a matchbox, on my butt for ten years. Fortunately, APD is a grammar fish, and I was able to name 25 grammar terms that he couldn't define. (no google for either of us). So, here are the rules. APD comes to GAFB and has to drink one full mug of each of the following styles of beer:
American Lager
Hefewiezen
Amber
Oktoberfest
India Pale Ale
A Porter or a Stout (his choice)
An English ale (mild, bitter, or nut brown)
A Belgian
and a seasonal/special of his choice

So only nine mugs, but some challenging styles. APD strategizes by going to the Southwest pavilion, as it is the closest to the first aid station.

We start at Ranger Creek Brewing & Distilling. I sip their mesquite smoked porter and sit back to watch the show. APD starts with Lucky Ol’ Sun, a light Belgian brewed with pilsner malt. Nice easy start, right??? APD takes one swig and spits it out. "OMG, I can't stand it! It has flavor!!!" APD has the mug refilled and decides to have some of their Texas .36 Bourbon to kill his taste buds so that he can choke down this "refreshing spring beer great for the patio." This turns out to be bad tactics. Although it does allow him to drink the beer, it sets a bad precedent and makes for a bad mix.

Belgian is off the list, and we move down to Real Ale Brewing company. Emboldened by his success, APD decides to get a challenge out of the way now and drink their Russian Imperial Stout while his taste buds are still tasting bourbon. I think this sounds like a good choice and join him. He chugs it as fast as he can, which only adds to the gas chamber effect of the Belgian yeasts, Russian rye, and highly flammable bourbon. It's a good thing smoking is banned here, because if anyone struck a match near APD, the whole tent might explode. I decided to take a bathroom break.

This was also a tactical error, as APD took advantage of my absence to go next door and get some more taste-bud suppressants. When I came back, it smelled less like craft beer, and more like skid row. He tried to go next door again, but I claimed Rock Bottom didn't count, so he stumbled down to Spoetzl Brewery. Obviously, this is the place for an Oktoberfest, but Shiner Oktoberfest is notoriously gassy, so I vetoed on public safety grounds. APD then decided to hit the specialty beer and drink the "Prickly Pear." This is described as an "easy drinking session beer," but to me tasted like Zima. APD loved it. At least he liked one...

From there down to Thunder Canyon Brewery, where I had the Cuppa Joe Porter, and APD went for the Countdown Honey Brown. Sadly, Thunder Canyon turned out to be a good name not only for the brewery, but also for a certain portion of APD's anatomy. Countdown Honey Brown seemed more like Countdown to Trouser Brown, or at least to blast off. I went to the first aid tent to get a mask, and while I was gone, APD was 86'ed, having completed only four of the nine required beers (and two bourbons).

On the plus side, his prawn tattoo is gonna be epic.
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10-18-2012 , 12:31 AM
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How has poker helped you in the real world? What lessons can you take from the table and apply to the real world? Vice versa, how has the real world helped you on the felt? Can you credit how you were raised to be a mostly calm and collective person at the table or would something else like the AF be the reason?
Poker to life:
Poker has helped me understand that you can do everything right and still lose. Maximizing your chance of winning doesn't mean that you necessarily win the hand. Life is swingy, like poker. if you have the psychological and financial role to handle the swings, maximize your value.

Life to felt:
I'm actually a very excitable person by nature, though I hardly remember the time when that part of my personality ruled. To a certain extent, flying missions took that edge off, as mentioned above. What really made the difference though, is martial arts. I've become a much calmer, more disciplined and more confident person through studying and practicing martial arts. As you can well imagine, these attributes serve one well on the poker table.

If you really want to bring your emotions under control, study a martial art with a philosophical component. Not pure MMA or self-defense, but an "art" with a teacher/sensei with some gravitas. This will help you a bunch in poker and in life.
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10-18-2012 , 12:38 AM
OK, that closes out the well, imo. I will still check this thread if folks post more in it, and will answer questions if asked, but I'm not going to make it a big priority anymore.

The winners are:

For non-poker, feel wrath for "three pearls of wisdom." I know you said you didn't want the $$s, but perhaps you could designate a charity you'd like them to go to.

For poker related, APD for poker-to-life and vice-versa. Your $10 will be shipped in the form of a $10 river bet...
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10-18-2012 , 12:44 AM
Boo. Rigged.
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10-18-2012 , 12:49 AM
Meh, your questions were interesting, but didn't drive an interesting response so much. Almost gave the non-poker one to fold4once for fake trip report request, as just the request made me lol, much less the report itself. feel wrath's actually made me think and boil down some thoughts and decide which ones were the most important, though, so it edged out.
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10-18-2012 , 01:01 AM
Epic beer Story, ace is hilarious.
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10-18-2012 , 01:16 AM
Garick, could you post a hand that you found difficult to play but you feel you played perfectly and won?
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10-18-2012 , 08:57 AM
Interesting question. Let me ruminate on that and see if I can think of one that didn't already get a thread.
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10-18-2012 , 09:18 AM
haha, APD at GABF exceeds expectations. Thanks for the laughs.
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10-18-2012 , 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Garick
OK, that closes out the well, imo. I will still check this thread if folks post more in it, and will answer questions if asked, but I'm not going to make it a big priority anymore.

The winners are:

For non-poker, feel wrath for "three pearls of wisdom." I know you said you didn't want the $$s, but perhaps you could designate a charity you'd like them to go to.

For poker related, APD for poker-to-life and vice-versa. Your $10 will be shipped in the form of a $10 river bet...
I win the thread!
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10-18-2012 , 09:14 PM
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These players tend to be more on the TAG side, but with leaks that simulate scared money.
Strange to read about yourself so accurately. I am the textbook analytical CRC. (want proof, read about me folding top pair on the flop with an SPR of 1.6 here).

So how do I go about fixing these leaks? Anyone have any good posts and/or videos they can recommend to clean up typical analytical CRC leaks? Example: my fold to 3bet is too high, and I can tell online villains are taking advantage of it.
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10-18-2012 , 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Garick
OK, that closes out the well, imo. I will still check this thread if folks post more in it, and will answer questions if asked, but I'm not going to make it a big priority anymore.

The winners are:

For non-poker, feel wrath for "three pearls of wisdom." I know you said you didn't want the $$s, but perhaps you could designate a charity you'd like them to go to.

For poker related, APD for poker-to-life and vice-versa. Your $10 will be shipped in the form of a $10 river bet...
yee ha. great answers too btw.

if you do want to give $10 to charity, please give it to something supporting fallen soldiers families.

nice thread
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10-19-2012 , 12:06 AM
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So how do I go about fixing these leaks? Anyone have any good posts and/or videos they can recommend to clean up typical analytical CRC leaks? Example: my fold to 3bet is too high, and I can tell online villains are taking advantage of it.
The problem with analytic CRCs is that we tend to be a bit predictable and exploitable because we focus so much on playing "correctly." Once you find someone actually exploiting you (rare at LLNL) you need to vary your play against him. Don't spazz, just mix it up a bit. Give yourself an extra 20% toward the aggressive action when you're facing a difficult decision HU against such a V.

I don't video, but I'm sure there are some good threads on uNLFR. http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/78...-cuts-1073391/
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/78...g-wars-711096/
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10-19-2012 , 12:23 AM
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if you do want to give $10 to charity, please give it to something supporting fallen soldiers families.
Done. My colleague just started a charity in memory of a member of his team in Afghanistan who was killed last month. The fund is to help pay for educations for spouses of fallen soldiers. I'm already donating, and I'll put an extra ten in in your name.
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10-19-2012 , 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by brojaysimpson
Garick, could you post a hand that you found difficult to play but you feel you played perfectly and won?
OK, I got one. It's not great, but it was a bit of a breakthrough to me.

2/5NL, Effective stacks about $650
V is late-middle aged very well dressed white lady with a rock the size of Gibraltar. She's been playing pretty weak-tight, though she will overpay a bit for draws.

Hero is new to $2/5, and is having a hard time just playing it as chips, rather than thinking of the dollars. Early 40's white guy in slacks and a T-shirt. Has already got a "he don't play many hands, but when he does, watch out" comment from old man coffee in response to a hand I raised a medium PP, c-bet a dry board with one overcard, binked trips on the turn and barreled, and OMC's friend folded ruefully.

Hero raise to $20 with ATdd OTB over two limpers. V calls from BB, one limper calls.

Pot $60 (post rake)
Flop: J85dd
V donks $20 (lol?), limper folds. Hero raises to $80 as a semi-bluff. She's weak/tight enough to fold a J to that raise, but she'll call a lesser FD and I figure I can barrel her off a lot if it misses and stack her with the overflush if it hits. V calls.

Pot $220
Turn is total brick, don't remember.
V checks, Hero bets $150 to set up implied river shove. Planning to b/f here for sure, as she raises 2p at the lowest. V calls pretty reluctantly.

Pot $550
River is an of-suit K
V checks, hero shoves. I have zero SDV here, but I think my FE is pretty good, and I've told a consistent story. Afraid she might have KJ here and have binked 2-pair, but no other play, imo. V goes deep into the tank, and eventually folds 55 face up. I act very disappointing and complement her on the amazing fold. She says, "well, you could have had aces, but I'm pretty sure JJ or KK." I make a sadder face and OMC laughs at me for being so outplayed as to not get a river call.

Obv this line is nothing amazing, but it was my first ever triple-barrel at $2/5 and I was proud that I didn't let the dollar amounts psych me out and actually played the hand with a consistent strategy against her range. Never thought I'd fold out a set, but I really liked my line and the way I thought the hand through.

OK, better players, feel free to rip it to shreds now...
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10-19-2012 , 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by feel wrath
yee ha. great answers too btw.

if you do want to give $10 to charity, please give it to something supporting fallen soldiers families.

nice thread
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Originally Posted by Garick
Done. My colleague just started a charity in memory of a member of his team in Afghanistan who was killed last month. The fund is to help pay for educations for spouses of fallen soldiers. I'm already donating, and I'll put an extra ten in in your name.
Ditto. No river bets needed.
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10-19-2012 , 01:00 AM
You guys rock. That is all.
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10-19-2012 , 06:28 AM
[QUOTE=Garick;35347782OK, better players, feel free to rip it to shreds now... [/QUOTE]

Probably don't qualify as "better players", but nice hand. I'm 100% sure I would have used my position and taken showdown, with no showdown value, but also with losing less when my draw misses.
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10-20-2012 , 07:54 PM
yeah wtf at that hand? I've seen nitty women just call with quads otb and otr but never that.
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10-21-2012 , 01:02 PM
For sure. My line was aimed at FDs (which I though were most of her range) and stubborn Jx that had made it to the river. I figured if she'd hit the K in a FD, I might still get a fold, but expected to be snapped off by most 2pair and any sets.
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10-21-2012 , 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Garick
OK, I got one. It's not great, but it was a bit of a breakthrough to me.

2/5NL, Effective stacks about $650
V is late-middle aged very well dressed white lady with a rock the size of Gibraltar. She's been playing pretty weak-tight, though she will overpay a bit for draws.

Hero is new to $2/5, and is having a hard time just playing it as chips, rather than thinking of the dollars. Early 40's white guy in slacks and a T-shirt. Has already got a "he don't play many hands, but when he does, watch out" comment from old man coffee in response to a hand I raised a medium PP, c-bet a dry board with one overcard, binked trips on the turn and barreled, and OMC's friend folded ruefully.

Hero raise to $20 with ATdd OTB over two limpers. V calls from BB, one limper calls.

Pot $60 (post rake)
Flop: J85dd
V donks $20 (lol?), limper folds. Hero raises to $80 as a semi-bluff. She's weak/tight enough to fold a J to that raise, but she'll call a lesser FD and I figure I can barrel her off a lot if it misses and stack her with the overflush if it hits. V calls.

Pot $220
Turn is total brick, don't remember.
V checks, Hero bets $150 to set up implied river shove. Planning to b/f here for sure, as she raises 2p at the lowest. V calls pretty reluctantly.

Pot $550
River is an of-suit K
V checks, hero shoves. I have zero SDV here, but I think my FE is pretty good, and I've told a consistent story. Afraid she might have KJ here and have binked 2-pair, but no other play, imo. V goes deep into the tank, and eventually folds 55 face up. I act very disappointing and complement her on the amazing fold. She says, "well, you could have had aces, but I'm pretty sure JJ or KK." I make a sadder face and OMC laughs at me for being so outplayed as to not get a river call.

Obv this line is nothing amazing, but it was my first ever triple-barrel at $2/5 and I was proud that I didn't let the dollar amounts psych me out and actually played the hand with a consistent strategy against her range. Never thought I'd fold out a set, but I really liked my line and the way I thought the hand through.

OK, better players, feel free to rip it to shreds now...
i dont get your comment regarding putting her on a flush draw or a jack and then having her reluctantly call on the turn and then saying you have zero showdown value on the river... obvi great barreling runout but you said the villian overpays for draws, reluctantly called the turn, and now claim your a high has no sdv... i think you are being a bit results oriented and a check back here is warranted sometimes basis physicals and your villians description.... nice barreling tho, it worked
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10-21-2012 , 01:43 PM
Yeah, you're right. I didn't have zero SDV. I really didn't think I had much though, as so much of her FD range (SC or KXdd) would likely have a pair.
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10-21-2012 , 01:46 PM
Best and worst llsnl posters?
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10-21-2012 , 02:44 PM
Not going to call out worst by name. The worst ones claim they are here to learn, but won't listen and just spew redic defensiveness to avoid ever admitting being wrong.

Best posters, in my opinion, explain their thought processes and back them up with math. dgiharris and mpethybridge do this most frequently. Honorable mention to all in this thread. http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...oster-1168827/
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10-22-2012 , 05:04 AM
Are that Casino Austria chips in your avatar?
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