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View Poll Results: What is your Win Rate in terms of BB per Housr
Less than 0 (losing)
5 6.41%
0-2.5
0 0%
2.5-5
6 7.69%
5-7.5
8 10.26%
7.5-10
15 19.23%
10+
26 33.33%
Not enough sample size/I don't know
18 23.08%

10-16-2018 , 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by mdelore
Not being a hater but winstar was super depressing for me and I was there for fun one weekend with my wife and a friend. I was insulted a lot patrons; one of them wanted to start a fight because he thought I bluffed him, another called me anorexic because I'm skinny. Keep in mind I don't talk **** at the table. Other random snide comments too in PLO8. A few of the guys were very fun though and getting **** faced having a great time. I've never been insulted so directly than at winstar though. It smells like cigarettes and there isn't anything else for miles. It's an enormous mecca of slot machines with the poker room tucked way in the back. The games are stupid soft though.
I agree. Lot of rude players and not that nice a room. My first game there was this Asian man on my left playing like 70/70 and bluffing like crazy, having a blast. An older white man with a cowboy hat to the left of the Asian man was constantly insulting him to his face. Calling him an idiot, must be on drugs, etc. Maniac left after an hour. I wanted to punch the old man but stayed calm. Saw a lot of stuff like that. Terrible old men insulting younger players for no particular reason. Also a large amount of young donks dressed like they're playing the WSOP bitching and moaning when they lose their 50 dollar stack. Typical 1/2 behavior just uncomfortably frequent.

Still the games were really soft. Players so bad you feel embarrassed for them. Had a guy raise me OTF then call off a large shove with a naked BDFD (which he binked vs my set). I ran horribly my two trips to Winstar. I kept getting my money in as like a 97% favorite and losing. Since then I've realized just how insanely hard it is to GII as a 97% favorite since most players aren't so ******ed they call a shove on the flop with a backdoor draw, or hero a 150BB triple barrel with K high.

Wish my games had a little more rudeness and idiocy if that's the price of people giving away their stacks left and right.
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10-16-2018 , 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Shai Hulud
Winstar has a very soft player pool and low cost of living. The 1/2 is 200 cap but I think you'd still make more than most places especially factoring in COL. You'll have a hard time finding soft deep stacked 1/2 games.
Harrah's in New Orleans has 1/3 that allows you to match the biggest stack. Id rank that game in my top 3 softest in the Country.

Cost of living there is low also.
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10-19-2018 , 02:05 AM
Results for the last 3.5 months:

520 hours played up $19,300 for a winrate of just over 37/hr. About 100 of those hours were at 2/5 and the rest were at 1/3 $500 cap with optional straddle from anywhere.

Results were a lot sexier before my current 60 hour $1800 downswing (I was at around $46/hr) but I suppose some run bad/regression to the mean was inevitable.
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10-19-2018 , 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Badreg2017
Results for the last 3.5 months:

520 hours played up $19,300 for a winrate of just over 37/hr. About 100 of those hours were at 2/5 and the rest were at 1/3 $500 cap with optional straddle from anywhere.

Results were a lot sexier before my current 60 hour $1800 downswing (I was at around $46/hr) but I suppose some run bad/regression to the mean was inevitable.
Still pretty sexy though. You're crushing it.
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10-26-2018 , 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by mdelore
Not being a hater but winstar was super depressing for me and I was there for fun one weekend with my wife and a friend. I was insulted a lot patrons; one of them wanted to start a fight because he thought I bluffed him, another called me anorexic because I'm skinny. Keep in mind I don't talk **** at the table. Other random snide comments too in PLO8. A few of the guys were very fun though and getting **** faced having a great time. I've never been insulted so directly than at winstar though. It smells like cigarettes and there isn't anything else for miles. It's an enormous mecca of slot machines with the poker room tucked way in the back. The games are stupid soft though.
I've gotten into it with Winstar patrons before but I don't think it's overly confrontational. You probably just got unlucky in that regard. I've found players in Vegas (from Cali) to be far more confrontational. The casino itself is very smoky and depressing but personally I rarely walk through the casino...you don't have to in order to get to the poker room but you do to go to the restaurants. The new poker room isn't smoky at all because it's next to a smoke free gaming plaza. That sucks for smokers because they have to walk really far to go smoke but it's good for everyone else.
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10-27-2018 , 07:52 PM
Been planning to post my 2017/18 combined results as soon as I hit my 1000 table hrs goal, which happened last night. This isn't the end of poker in 2018 for me, but since I hit my goal early, I figured what the hell.

I play in a 1/3 300 cap buy in game at a local casino (Only steak that runs other than an occasional PLO). 95% + of these hours are from that game. I have made a few trips to Winstar/Vegas/LA over the past 2 years, and try to play a 500 cap NL game when on the road. (Wynn 1/3, Bellagio 2/5, Winstar 2/5, etc.) Those hrs are included in the sample, but minimal.

For background, I've been playing poker semi seriously since 2006, usually 300-1000 hrs/year of volume depending on my other obligations/job. I didn't do much study other than reading some of the popular books (Super System, Poker Mindset, etc.) before a few years ago, and just relied on intuition/natural ability for the most part. If I were to compare my style of play to regular posters, it's kind of like a weird combo of MikeStarr (unorthodox at times due to a primarily live background) and GG (as my player field has evolved, I've found myself adopting a nittier and nittier preflop range as I feel my postflop edge has decreased over the field). For almost a decade, my winrate hovered around $35-45/hr at this steak, but my player pool has gotten noticeably tougher over the past few years, so I'm not surprised that my winrate has decreased. I don't consider myself a crusher and am rarely the best player in any given room. I just try to pick my spots, feed on the fish weaker than me, and avoid the sharks. Also putting in more study time these days to try to stay ahead of the curve.


TL/DR: Fish still on a heater since 2006, but cooling down a bit.

Total 2017/18 Hours (so far): 1000.25

Total Profit: $26,873

Winrate: $26.87

https://i.imgur.com/RlqO9KO.jpg
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10-27-2018 , 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by StacknLikeCordWood
Been planning to post my 2017/18 combined results as soon as I hit my 1000 table hrs goal, which happened last night. This isn't the end of poker in 2018 for me, but since I hit my goal early, I figured what the hell.

I play in a 1/3 300 cap buy in game at a local casino (Only steak that runs other than an occasional PLO). 95% + of these hours are from that game. I have made a few trips to Winstar/Vegas/LA over the past 2 years, and try to play a 500 cap NL game when on the road. (Wynn 1/3, Bellagio 2/5, Winstar 2/5, etc.) Those hrs are included in the sample, but minimal.

For background, I've been playing poker semi seriously since 2006, usually 300-1000 hrs/year of volume depending on my other obligations/job. I didn't do much study other than reading some of the popular books (Super System, Poker Mindset, etc.) before a few years ago, and just relied on intuition/natural ability for the most part. If I were to compare my style of play to regular posters, it's kind of like a weird combo of MikeStarr (unorthodox at times due to a primarily live background) and GG (as my player field has evolved, I've found myself adopting a nittier and nittier preflop range as I feel my postflop edge has decreased over the field). For almost a decade, my winrate hovered around $35-45/hr at this steak, but my player pool has gotten noticeably tougher over the past few years, so I'm not surprised that my winrate has decreased. I don't consider myself a crusher and am rarely the best player in any given room. I just try to pick my spots, feed on the fish weaker than me, and avoid the sharks. Also putting in more study time these days to try to stay ahead of the curve.


TL/DR: Fish still on a heater since 2006, but cooling down a bit.

Total 2017/18 Hours (so far): 1000.25

Total Profit: $26,873

Winrate: $26.87

https://i.imgur.com/RlqO9KO.jpg
Great results! What do you use to track winnings?

For LLSNL community, on a side note, I have been thinking of building a mobile app which allows players to enter live hands and record sessions more accurately and for later analysis possibly integrating with Pio, Flopzilla etc. What do you guys think of this idea?
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10-27-2018 , 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by StacknLikeCordWood
Been planning to post my 2017/18 combined results as soon as I hit my 1000 table hrs goal, which happened last night. This isn't the end of poker in 2018 for me, but since I hit my goal early, I figured what the hell.



I play in a 1/3 300 cap buy in game at a local casino (Only steak that runs other than an occasional PLO). 95% + of these hours are from that game. I have made a few trips to Winstar/Vegas/LA over the past 2 years, and try to play a 500 cap NL game when on the road. (Wynn 1/3, Bellagio 2/5, Winstar 2/5, etc.) Those hrs are included in the sample, but minimal.



For background, I've been playing poker semi seriously since 2006, usually 300-1000 hrs/year of volume depending on my other obligations/job. I didn't do much study other than reading some of the popular books (Super System, Poker Mindset, etc.) before a few years ago, and just relied on intuition/natural ability for the most part. If I were to compare my style of play to regular posters, it's kind of like a weird combo of MikeStarr (unorthodox at times due to a primarily live background) and GG (as my player field has evolved, I've found myself adopting a nittier and nittier preflop range as I feel my postflop edge has decreased over the field). For almost a decade, my winrate hovered around $35-45/hr at this steak, but my player pool has gotten noticeably tougher over the past few years, so I'm not surprised that my winrate has decreased. I don't consider myself a crusher and am rarely the best player in any given room. I just try to pick my spots, feed on the fish weaker than me, and avoid the sharks. Also putting in more study time these days to try to stay ahead of the curve.





TL/DR: Fish still on a heater since 2006, but cooling down a bit.



Total 2017/18 Hours (so far): 1000.25



Total Profit: $26,873



Winrate: $26.87



https://i.imgur.com/RlqO9KO.jpg


Very impressive, nice hustle!

I’m curious as to what the rake in your game is?


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10-27-2018 , 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by devnull2
Great results! What do you use to track winnings?

For LLSNL community, on a side note, I have been thinking of building a mobile app which allows players to enter live hands and record sessions more accurately and for later analysis possibly integrating with Pio, Flopzilla etc. What do you guys think of this idea?
I just use the notepad on my phone and then transfer the data to Excel on a weekly basis. I tried a couple tracker apps, but my familiarity with Excel (finance background) won out.
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10-27-2018 , 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by de4df1sh
Very impressive, nice hustle!

I’m curious as to what the rake in your game is?


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10-28-2018 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by devnull2
Great results! What do you use to track winnings?

For LLSNL community, on a side note, I have been thinking of building a mobile app which allows players to enter live hands and record sessions more accurately and for later analysis possibly integrating with Pio, Flopzilla etc. What do you guys think of this idea?
Please don't make the games harder for us...
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10-29-2018 , 11:00 AM
Nice results over the first 1000 hours Stacky!

Ggogogo!G
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10-29-2018 , 11:27 AM
OK, I know my data might be LOL not enough hours... but I've spent a year tracking my limited play and just want to put it out there.

History: struggled early, but learned to beat heads-up SNGs 2007-2008ish (solid sharkscope scores ) eventually regularly beating the $100 level (we all bumhunted though). Then switched to HU Cash on pokerstars.. some wild variance, but consistently made money up to 200NL. Started playing live cash around 2010, then exclusively live cash after Black Friday 2011.

Live cash history (some 1/2, mostly 2/5): single parent w kids 50/50, have always worked 9-5 FT job...from 2012-2016 played a LOT live but *never* tracked winnings/winrate. Probably at least 40 hours/month, sometimes 50-60. Often used poker cash for groceries, etc, to support my work/life roll.

2016-present: achieved some balance in my social life... started to date, have a girlfriend past 18 months, so my 50% of time without kids is not nearly as available for poker. Noticed that my financial life suffered... credit card bill going up, can't use poker cash to pay for things as not playing nearly as much. This sucks, but it made me realize that my 'win rate' was probably pretty damn good when I played regularly.

Nov 17-Oct 18: I love poker, and hope to use it as semi-retirement someday, or let it give me some flexibility if I decide to switch jobs, etc. Decided to diligently track my sessions (use Poker Ledger, very basic but easy to use, reliable so far).

This data includes all live cash play. So, only averaging about 10 hours/month, sadly. Of the 120 hours
- 77 at local casino throughout the year
- 34 in Vegas Nov 2017
- 4 hour home game ( + $400 1/2 session lol)
- 5 hours local card club

1/2 - 30 hours at $38/hour
2/5 - 82 hours at $35/hour
5/10 - 8 hours at $317/hour (lol some nice variance but should be noted that this is almost exclusively 2/5 tables that converted to 5/10, when I ran pretty well)

Mostly weekends days/evenings, but a few days of 9-5 at the casino 1/2. Note my Bellagio 2/5 win rate... my last night in Vegas was a Monday I'll never forget - won pot after pot for 6 hours.

Of course, this will be much more relevant when I get to 500 hours, 1000 hours... but just wanted to share. Thanks for reading..



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11-02-2018 , 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
Harrah's in New Orleans has 1/3 that allows you to match the biggest stack. Id rank that game in my top 3 softest in the Country.

Cost of living there is low also.
Can confirm. Softest 1/2-1/3 I've ever played in. I can't wait for Encore Boston Harbor to open up, I imagine the games there will be as soft as when MGM National Harbor first opened up.
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11-04-2018 , 12:52 PM
Last fall I was running bad at 2/5 and decided to play 1/2 for a short while and fix some leaks but also work on cranking up my aggression level to an uncomfortable point to get me out of my comfort zone. Things went well and I went back to 2/5 exactly 1 year ago. Here are some results from the past 12 months of 2/5 (small amount of 5/5 from a recent trip to L.A). Ive played 5/10 also but those results are not included here.

1291 hrs...11.1 BB/hr

StnDev...61BB/hr

Avg session...4.2 hrs

Winning sessions 69%

Biggest downswing $2900

I played in 15 different rooms in 5 states.

My last 450 hrs are at 14.5BB/hr
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11-04-2018 , 12:58 PM
Amazing results mike!!
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11-04-2018 , 01:13 PM
Are u a Vegas player?

Those results are so awesome
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11-04-2018 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard32
Are u a Vegas player?

Those results are so awesome
Thx. None of that is from Vegas. I live in S. Florida and played all over Florida. I also played in Philly, L.A. New Jersey, and New Orleans in 2018. I think those are the only areas I played this year but I travel a lot and may have missed somewhere.
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11-04-2018 , 04:44 PM
This is my results at over 1500 hours in cash games since 2012. I'm almost back to even and I lose $0.11 per hour. I've won in 43% of sessions. I've only played 22 hours in 2018. I've never played over 500 hours in one year.
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11-04-2018 , 11:02 PM
My results at 1/2 after 11 months;

Profit Total : $ 6,592

Hours: 402

Profit Per Hr: $ 16.37

Profit Per Hr (BB) 9.8 BB

87 sessions played with W/L of 59 % / 41 %

Best winning streak : 8 wins + $2,605

Worst losing streak : 5 losses - 1,400

Don't ask how much of the $6K won I actually managed to add to my bankroll
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11-04-2018 , 11:19 PM
My first 40 hours of live 1/2:

40 hours 24 minutes
profit $706
$17.48/hr
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11-05-2018 , 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
1291 hrs...11.1 BB/hr
Awesome results Mike!

Ggogogo!G
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11-05-2018 , 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by paulhamr
This is my results at over 1500 hours in cash games since 2012. I'm almost back to even and I lose $0.11 per hour. I've won in 43% of sessions. I've only played 22 hours in 2018. I've never played over 500 hours in one year.
You don't often see posters here posting mediocre results over non-trivial sample sizes; thanks for doing so!

What stakes do you play? If you play higher than the minimum game offered in your room, the obvious suggestion would be to move down a level or two.

Otherwise, I'd suggest posting some hands and getting feedback / grunching threads.

Ggoodluck!G
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11-05-2018 , 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by jelloman

Don't ask how much of the $6K won I actually managed to add to my bankroll

how much of the 6k did you invest in stripperz and blow?
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11-05-2018 , 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
You don't often see posters here posting mediocre results over non-trivial sample sizes; thanks for doing so!

What stakes do you play? If you play higher than the minimum game offered in your room, the obvious suggestion would be to move down a level or two.

Otherwise, I'd suggest posting some hands and getting feedback / grunching threads.

Ggoodluck!G
I play $1-$2. I would play lower if I could. I did start getting involved on here a little bit in 2016. I only played 2 sessions for 8 hours in 2017. It is because I got engaged in 2017 and just got married this year. For my bachelor weekend, I requested to go play and made $634 in 2.5 hours. Since then, I've been playing slightly more. The 2 sessions in 2017 were just to keep my reward points active.
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