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02-09-2009 , 07:57 PM
I always liked the Suburban Poker Man and his tales of taking his remaining chips from a session and forcing them to the craps table. He claimed that these sad remnants of his once proud army would infect any new chips with a losing spirit, thus he had to purify them at the craps table. I couldn't find the exact quotes, but I ran across a number of posts where Ray Zee was talking strat to him; it is very funny stuff. He was my favorite humerous poster of all time.

short version: maybe craps has the very small -EV but high variance you want.
02-09-2009 , 08:05 PM
Blackjack ftw! Finally overcome the temptation to play while waiting for tables. Not sure if it is +EV or not as I end up tilted due to the wait and lack of blackjack.
02-09-2009 , 09:37 PM
For those in LA who play against Gino. HG 8/16

I have K8s in BB and check. Flop is KQ3: I bet, Gino calls, others fold (Gino called is invitation to get out). Turn A: I check, he checks. River 3: kicker does not play so I bet, Gino calls. I turn my hand over and Gino says "you got me with your kicker" and mucks. Someone tells him kicker doesn't play and he says "Ouch". Is he lying?
02-09-2009 , 09:55 PM
Here is another incident from my weekend HG 8/16 play. Folds to me on Button w/ A4s and I raise. SB,BB call and I make two pair on the river. BB and several others make comments about me raising w/ A4s. A few orbits later it folds to me on the Button and I raise.. SB,BB fold and BB says "A4 again"?. I roll my hand and say "No, A3". Bad to show but priceless moment.
02-09-2009 , 10:04 PM
Had a few similar - raise T9s OTB in a family pot, take it down with trips and have someone with JJ go on monkey tilt about me raising with junk

Or raise PF w/ A9s in MP after 2 limpers. Flop gives me 2 overs and a BDFD. Limper bets, I raise. Of course the A comes on the turn as I knew it would all along and I have MP go nuts about me raising the flop with nothing.

Nothing beats live play
02-09-2009 , 10:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by albacorela
For those in LA who play against Gino. HG 8/16

I have K8s in BB and check. Flop is KQ3: I bet, Gino calls, others fold (Gino called is invitation to get out). Turn A: I check, he checks. River 3: kicker does not play so I bet, Gino calls. I turn my hand over and Gino says "you got me with your kicker" and mucks. Someone tells him kicker doesn't play and he says "Ouch". Is he lying?
Who is this Gino person, and how much money did you leave him with? Also, where can I find him?
02-09-2009 , 10:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by denks
Nothing beats live play
That's true; but for everything else there's...
02-09-2009 , 10:57 PM
Sober blackjack is about as fun a hitting my hand with a hammer. I will however, play ample blackjackage on LV trips (El Crotez being the primary site) when the beer flows like wine.
02-09-2009 , 10:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LukeSLTS
Sober blackjack is about as fun a hitting my hand with a hammer.
This isn't fun?
02-09-2009 , 11:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SadDonkey
This isn't fun?
Only when you stop.
02-09-2009 , 11:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SadDonkey
Who is this Gino person, and how much money did you leave him with? Also, where can I find him?
Hmm. I think I'm 50% in pots versus him. He is not a fish. I made flush on the river and bet, he raises, I call; he shows Jd8d. He is a 60-ish Hawaiian (native?) and wears a cap and is always reading the paper. He plays pretty tight and always had several racks in front of him. He plays Comm 9/18 also. When I win pots and the dealer is Asian he starts ragging on the dealer for giving money to the white people. His racist outbursts are a bit annoying.
02-09-2009 , 11:48 PM
Wish Stars had a BBJ - last night saw a straight flush run into a royal - in both cases both players hole cards came into play. *sigh* would have been some nice easy $ there
02-09-2009 , 11:52 PM
Badbeat jackpots are awful. It is another form of rake as the house usually takes a 10%+ fee for operating the jackpot. Turning Stone has one and the exact way the house runs it is a mstery. I have been told by one of the floors that the house take is 40%. I am sure Poker Stars would take a nominal fee but it would still be -EV.
02-10-2009 , 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by DougL
You might dial that down to 8.1 racks to give yourself some room for some tilt-induced blackjack on the way out the door.
+1

Also...I am far from super expert, so I bet I can only lose 7 racks or so.
02-10-2009 , 12:56 AM
brag: KQ def 77 on AA7KA board at bay 101 20/40
beat: still lost 800...no more shot taking for me
02-10-2009 , 12:37 PM
Last session I played the worst I have ever played. Made the stupidest hero fold I've ever done ever (EVER, too embarrasing to even describe...), perhaps made another stupid fold on the river, didn't raise a couple times on the turn when I should have fearing monsters, missed a few easy value bets on the river, etc. Ug, it was disgustingly bad play; thankfully only lost 1.5 BB in the session but we all know that's not the point.

How do you guys handle a session you know you just butchered? Beat yourself up a bit, get back on the horse and then just buckle down and not do stupid things? I think one problem I might have is that I usually play extremely fast; I'm thinking I should perhaps slow down a bit and take just an extra second or two with my decisions, and then confirm each descision as being correct before I make it.

GcluelessnoobG
02-10-2009 , 12:37 PM
the more i look at the title of this thread, the more awesome it becomes.
02-10-2009 , 12:38 PM
because it's so true!
02-10-2009 , 02:45 PM
I was going to make a post this morning about how much the thread title was bothering me. I applaud your ability to needle us non-Steelers fans to the fullest.
02-10-2009 , 02:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
How do you guys handle a session you know you just butchered? Beat yourself up a bit, get back on the horse and then just buckle down and not do stupid things? I think one problem I might have is that I usually play extremely fast; I'm thinking I should perhaps slow down a bit and take just an extra second or two with my decisions, and then confirm each descision as being correct before I make it.

GcluelessnoobG
I think slowing down your play is decent but be careful about timing tells. If you are going to start doing this make sure you take a similar time with each decision, no matter how easy. Try not to ever appear like you are thinking too hard.

I think, once you get over the embarassment, you should post your hero fold so we can all have a hearty laugh.
02-10-2009 , 03:05 PM
GG, if it makes you feel any better:

4 limpers, I check 86 in the BB.

Flop [4.5 SB]: 652
Checked to LAG on BN, who will bet any two cards here and doesn't disappoint. I raise, UTG calls, super loose passive UTG+1 calls, MP calls, BN 3-bets (his range is still fairly wide at this point), I call, everyone else calls.

Turn [9.75 BB]: 4
I check, UTG checks, super loose passive donks, MP folds, BN folds, I call, UTG calls.

River [12.75 BB]: 6
I check, UTG checks, loose passive bets, I tank and fold, UTG folds.

I figured I was beating 54 on the river and nothing else, and that he wouldn't bet three pair because he's passive. He flips over 42, which I hadn't really considered. I suck at teh pokers.
02-10-2009 , 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by LukeSLTS
I think slowing down your play is decent but be careful about timing tells. If you are going to start doing this make sure you take a similar time with each decision, no matter how easy. Try not to ever appear like you are thinking too hard.

I think, once you get over the embarassment, you should post your hero fold so we can all have a hearty laugh.
Ya, I probably would have to make sure I take the approximate same amount of time on each decision, but that sure would slow down the game on brain dead easy plays (of which most plays are).

For laughs, here's my worst ever hero fold. Not only did I do a hero fold, but I did a hero show (showing my hand as I folded), something I don't think I've ever done before. Not sure what happened. Brain fart? Hadn't played in over a week, little rusty? Tired of paying off obviously better hands? Meh, no excuses, just plain bad. I doubt anyone can come close to how bad this was.

THE HAND:

Villain is tricky and not straightforward. I've got lottsa history with villain, he knows I'm not folding the river ever after putting in this much action on flop and betting when my obvious draw comes in.

Hero limps on the button with Q8s after a bunch of limpers.

Flop is 655 with two of my suit. Villain leads, bunch of callers, I raise my flush draw, can't quite remember what happened after that by lots of us to the turn for 2+ bets.

Turn is a blank (some high card?), Villain bets, maybe another caller, I call.

River is a gin flush card (board is only single paired, no straight flush). Villain checks, I bet, villain check/raises. I hero fold my Q high flush in a ~12+ BB pot. Villain flips over A5 (trip 5's) and declares nice fold.

Thank you. Thank you very much.

GbanningmewouldbecompletelyunderstandableG
02-10-2009 , 05:09 PM
The limited hold-them is a very boring game. Save making great folds on the river for a less boring one.

Doug
02-10-2009 , 05:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DougL
The limited hold-them is a very boring game. Save making great folds on the river for a less boring one.

Doug
ya srsly


Poker Stars $0.10/$0.20 Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 34016
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is BB with 7 A
UTG calls, MP calls, CO calls, BTN raises, 1 fold, Hero calls, UTG calls, MP calls, CO calls

Flop: (10.5 SB) 9 A 2 (5 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP checks, CO checks, BTN bets, Hero raises, UTG calls, MP folds, CO folds, BTN calls

Turn: (8.25 BB) 4 (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, BTN calls

River: (11.25 BB) 9 (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, BTN raises, Hero folds, UTG calls

Final Pot: 16.25 BB
UTG mucks 2 5
BTN shows Q Q (two pair, Queens and Nines)
BTN wins 15.5 BB
(Rake: $0.15)

Last edited by leprous_hand; 02-10-2009 at 05:19 PM. Reason: i was SURE he had it.... ARRRGGHHHH
02-10-2009 , 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by James.
the more i look at the title of this thread, the more awesome it becomes.
Man, we handn't heard from you in a while. I thought someone had spite-banned you, like I asked at the top. Darn...

We need a Life of James TR, imo. Playing any of the live poker?

      
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