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01-09-2010 , 12:30 AM
At my local casino when it gets shorthanded the will drop it down to one $1 blind. They will continue with the single blind for up to 8 players sometimes. People get mad and leave, thus killing the game when I do.

If you want to call it's still $3 and $6 to raise, just like normal.

My problem is if you raise NO ONE calls, and if you just call it creates a cascade to where everyone calls. Seriously, everyone.

When your in these circumstances should I still raise my big hands, or accept the extra variance that just calling creates?

By the way, moving to another casino isn't an option here...there isn't any other.
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01-09-2010 , 01:23 AM
play online... forget that game. The purpose of the blinds is to make it so people are actually playing for some money pre-flop, otherwise ppl fold until they get AA. A normal 3/6 game has $4 in blinds to start. So you're deciding to fight over a 1/4 of the money that you would in a normal 3/6... why?

Your casino is basically destroying the incentive to play whenever it goes short-handed, which is odd.
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01-09-2010 , 03:26 AM
It's illeagle to play online in Washington state. Pretty crappy if you ask me.
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01-09-2010 , 05:33 PM
Lots of things are illegal. The question is what they're going to do about. I haven't heard about any doors being busted in yet and I'm certain you'll have no problem getting money in. Money out might be a little harder depending on the bank but I'm sure you can work around it. Also, iirc, it really only is illegal for banks to transfer the funds and not for the players to play. But I am not a lawyer, so you should probably wait until someone competent replies.
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01-11-2010 , 12:20 AM
Do they take any rake/drop when there is just a single blind and there is no flop? ie You raise and they all fold.
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01-11-2010 , 12:22 AM
Also, if the players want to keep a 2 blind structure, then I'm sure you could keep it. Especially in this case where you all could agree to just "limp blind" where the BB would usually be.
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01-11-2010 , 10:39 AM
Do the other players enjoy this structure? I would think it would be boring for them too. Does the house drop the rake when they implement this structure? Knowing the rake structure is key to making a decision as to whether this game is even worth playing.
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01-11-2010 , 05:18 PM
LOL @ a single 1$ blind in a 3/6 game.

ROFL @ idea of a rake in this game.

But to answer the question asked, I would limp with big hands in said structure. If there were limpers ahead of me I would of course raise, but UTG w/ AA I call if I believe there will be no action, and I can either win 1$ now, or 15$ on the next three streets, it is worth the variance.

It may actually be +EV to explain to the casino that this structure is not in anyones best interest. Not the house, not the players, not the dealer. And have some of the other regs put in complaints as well.
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01-11-2010 , 05:26 PM
The rake is reduced down to $2 max while short handed. Also everyone else loves this structure. Most of the other people are there for the social aspects of it. There are only a few players who take the game seriously.

And if I raise and everyone folded I would win the $1. No rake.
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01-12-2010 , 12:54 PM
Try raising every hand untill you get a call, and raise more often in general. Punish their passive play. It will net 1$ per hand until they adjust, then you will see a game that is more playable.
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01-12-2010 , 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by billyf111
My problem is if you raise NO ONE calls, and if you just call it creates a cascade to where everyone calls. Seriously, everyone.

When your in these circumstances should I still raise my big hands, or accept the extra variance that just calling creates?
EV++ with extra variance is better than EV+ with no variance, assuming you've got a decent bankroll.

I used to play in a lot of these games in Vegas 2004-2005 - limp multiway hands up front and don't play medium pocket pairs as strongly (this is where I get all my loose-passive EP play from, because it worked so damn well for many years). 99 and even TT become set-mining hands as they rarely win UI 7-8 way, but T9s becomes a monster.

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Originally Posted by billyf111
It's illeagle to play online in Washington state. Pretty crappy if you ask me.
I would double check this in the legal forum. Dictating what you can and cannot play seems like a pretty strong infringement of personal rights. It's more likely in my mind that the law is that you can't deposit or withdraw into gambling sites from Washington State (because governments are more likely to try and control personal behavior by using the flow of money as a proxy).

You can get around the latter restriction by arranging third-party transfers of money.
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01-13-2010 , 09:14 AM
You first claim everyone gets mad and leaves the game when they switch to this structure, thus breaking the table. You later claim that everyone else loves this structure.
WTF?
Which is it?
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01-13-2010 , 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by BeakWetter
You first claim everyone gets mad and leaves the game when they switch to this structure, thus breaking the table. You later claim that everyone else loves this structure.
WTF?
Which is it?
I just reread my OP. It's kind of confusing; I think I left out a key word or two. Everyone else loves the single blind structure. If it's shorthanded they will leave if they don't drop it to a single blind.

If it was up to the rest of the players the would always have it that way.
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01-13-2010 , 04:58 PM
OK, I think you should live dangerously and play online because this game will neither help you become a better player nor allow you to earn money.
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