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03-01-2012 , 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by rodeo
what i did is kinda douchey, right?
Well, it IS basically a slowroll.
03-01-2012 , 08:08 PM
Got to shoot guns today. A Springfield Armoury .45 XD and a FNP .40. Really liked the 45 and was surprisingly accurate according to my roommate who is expert. The only thing being- man is it an expensive hobby. Phew.

Still want one, haha.
03-01-2012 , 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by rodeo
what i did is kinda douchey, right?
not at all. putting in the exact amount of chips someone has is totally standard.

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Originally Posted by Captain Ron
Well, it IS basically a slowroll.
huh? he put him all-in and then i'm assuming showed first. how is that a slowroll?
03-01-2012 , 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Fifty1Fifty
poop: you can ship it or scoop it.
and if you play limit hold 'em you can fling it.
03-01-2012 , 11:45 PM
I'm running really terrible right now. the last six loosing sessions I've played has been loosing ... on average 30-40bb loosing days. So I'm gonna take a breather and move down to 6/12 (from 8/16-15/30) and maybe down to 4/8 ... work a little harder on my game and not tilt as much. Maybe for the next five sessions ill do this.

I need to take a little more time with decisions. Sometimes I find myself knee jerking through the streets w/o taking time to consider opponents ranges or the purpose behind my actions ... and consequently making bad river and turn bets. Also the little runbad has made me a little gun - shy in that I fold a little quicker than I should, and I don't value raise when I should ...

I know six loosing consecutive 20-40bb looses is probably nothing to you pro grinders but this is a learning experience for me - and I think the best thing is to move down a bit and work on some things. Catch my breath perhaps ...

Thanks for the support.
03-02-2012 , 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by bakku
huh? he put him all-in and then i'm assuming showed first. how is that a slowroll?
The guy bet and hero is closing the action with the nuts. Hero isn't sure if villain has anymore chips left, so his two possible options are to:

A) Raise the full amount (16 chips or whatever) and the guy either has no more chips, or has < a full bet and calls or whatever. It doesn't matter if hero puts out too many chips, he's getting them all back and it doesn't matter if villain actually has a big chip hidden behind, as hero has the nuts and wouldn't mind a re-raise.

B) Ask the guy to move his hands, look at how many chips he has left, and then count out that exact amount to raise.

B. clearly takes more time than A. as it takes 2-3 more actions (hero asks villain to move his hands, villain obliges, hero counts remaining chips) to execute.

So it's not a "slowroll" in the technical sense, but since it takes more time than necessary when hero has the nuts and villain is either insta-calling or insta-folding a bluff, I think it's basically a form of slow-rolling by prolonging vilain's realization that he's lost when he thinks he has winning chances.

*OK, if hero actually bets one chip at a time and it actually takes him longer to cut out, say, the min-raise # of chips (12?) than the actual 9 chips then it's not a slowroll. But I'm assuming hero is competent handling chips.
03-02-2012 , 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by nonsimplesimon
I'm running really terrible right now. the last six loosing sessions I've played has been loosing ... on average 30-40bb loosing days. So I'm gonna take a breather and move down to 6/12 (from 8/16-15/30) and maybe down to 4/8 ... work a little harder on my game and not tilt as much. Maybe for the next five sessions ill do this.

I need to take a little more time with decisions. Sometimes I find myself knee jerking through the streets w/o taking time to consider opponents ranges or the purpose behind my actions ... and consequently making bad river and turn bets. Also the little runbad has made me a little gun - shy in that I fold a little quicker than I should, and I don't value raise when I should ...

I know six loosing consecutive 20-40bb looses is probably nothing to you pro grinders but this is a learning experience for me - and I think the best thing is to move down a bit and work on some things. Catch my breath perhaps ...

Thanks for the support.
i had a bad run in january and february. it's not any fun.

i've been working on some of my tilt issues, as well as, quitting issues. something i've found to be really helpful is tommy angelo's "elements of poker". also, tommy's "eightfold path to poker enlightenment" series on deuces cracked. i recommend both highly. if you haven't already read/watched them i suggest you do, and if you have read/watch them again.
03-02-2012 , 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain Ron
The guy bet and hero is closing the action with the nuts. Hero isn't sure if villain has anymore chips left, so his two possible options are to:

A) Raise the full amount (16 chips or whatever) and the guy either has no more chips, or has < a full bet and calls or whatever. It doesn't matter if hero puts out too many chips, he's getting them all back and it doesn't matter if villain actually has a big chip hidden behind, as hero has the nuts and wouldn't mind a re-raise.

B) Ask the guy to move his hands, look at how many chips he has left, and then count out that exact amount to raise.

B. clearly takes more time than A. as it takes 2-3 more actions (hero asks villain to move his hands, villain obliges, hero counts remaining chips) to execute.

So it's not a "slowroll" in the technical sense, but since it takes more time than necessary when hero has the nuts and villain is either insta-calling or insta-folding a bluff, I think it's basically a form of slow-rolling by prolonging vilain's realization that he's lost when he thinks he has winning chances.

*OK, if hero actually bets one chip at a time and it actually takes him longer to cut out, say, the min-raise # of chips (12?) than the actual 9 chips then it's not a slowroll. But I'm assuming hero is competent handling chips.
i agree with you ron, i should've just made a full raise regardless of how many chips the villain had left.
03-02-2012 , 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike_757
A guy I know was robbed outside of a casino near where I live - in daylight - lucky he was not shot just pistol whipped.


Not quite as good as a .38, but the cops won't throw you in jail for having it.
03-02-2012 , 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by AlanBostick
Yesterday, a semi-regular, a woman with serious drinking and gambling problems and at the time on about her 26th hour of a binge, came over to my table and accused me of being one of the 1%.
Strangely enough, I'll admit that it was partly my fault. In the early hours of said binge, I was Jesus-seating her and kind of egged her on about the 30/60 game being full of 1%. I 3-bet her light twice, got sucked out on the flop both times, and then resucked on the turn/river both times. She was displeased.

Good times.
03-02-2012 , 03:38 AM
Found myself in 'one of those games' today. K-Jo huge in EP for one bet and for 2 in the CO or BTN. Naturally I dropped 2 racks in 2 hours by being silly and raising w/ AK and big pairs. Clawed my way back to a rack win. 2p2 poster Dead Money Walking calls the 8-16 nitty at CAZ and it sometimes is but I think his sample size is small.

Fun hand: I post a kill in the CO, there are 7 limpers and I look down at the 83 and tell the dealer '$20 if this hand wins' bec there's no way, right? Flop: 8 hi w/ 2 spades. Checked to me, I bet, get 3 callers. Turn: small spade brings possible str8, checked to me, I bet, get 2 callers. River: small spade, checked thru MHIG, I pay the $20 and glad of it.

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I live in a small town and there are a fair number of those itsy, bitsy Smart cars. Sometimes mom asks why we don't get one and I point to that humongous sort of vehicle that doc bought and say 'that's why.' Those Smart car drivers are taking their lives into their hands every time they drive. And I see them on the highways as well, the idiots.

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The poker room is installing an enormous 16 screen TV set-up w/ a sports score scroll hanging from the ceiling in the middle of the room. It's actually too big, imo, but w/e. It is being held up by 4 very thin wires which are supposed to be a special space-age material. One dealer says that she's going to ask to never be assigned to deal a table under that thing. I tell her that it's the safest place in the poker room bec there's a large crew checking every nut and bolt. I'm going to feel real bad if she gets squished.
03-02-2012 , 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by rodeo
i had a bad run and played bad in january and february. it's not any fun.

i've been working on some of my tilt issues, as well as quitting sessions and my smoking addiction. something i've found to be really helpful is tommy angelo's "elements of poker". also, tommy's "eightfold path to poker enlightenment" series on deuces cracked. i recommend both highly. if you haven't already read/watched them i suggest you do, and if you have read/watch them again. i also have a friend who knows everything about poker, sex and failure. but i'm too intimidated to ask any questions. as a result my life suffers for it.
fyp
03-02-2012 , 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by nonsimplesimon
I'm running really terrible right now. the last six loosing sessions I've played has been loosing ... on average 30-40bb loosing days. So I'm gonna take a breather and move down to 6/12 (from 8/16-15/30) and maybe down to 4/8 ... work a little harder on my game and not tilt as much. Maybe for the next five sessions ill do this.

I need to take a little more time with decisions. Sometimes I find myself knee jerking through the streets w/o taking time to consider opponents ranges or the purpose behind my actions ... and consequently making bad river and turn bets. Also the little runbad has made me a little gun - shy in that I fold a little quicker than I should, and I don't value raise when I should ...

I know six loosing consecutive 20-40bb looses is probably nothing to you pro grinders but this is a learning experience for me - and I think the best thing is to move down a bit and work on some things. Catch my breath perhaps ...

Thanks for the support.
I would take some time off as well from the tables. Just to re-charge and clear your head from poker.
03-02-2012 , 04:23 AM
Moving down/taking time off is a strength that many players don't possess, they let ego get in the way, but it's often the best course of action to clear the mind, let the tension/fear/self-doubt fade and start fresh later on. GL.
03-02-2012 , 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Howard Beale
I live in a small town and there are a fair number of those itsy, bitsy Smart cars. Sometimes mom asks why we don't get one and I point to that humongous sort of vehicle that doc bought and say 'that's why.' Those Smart car drivers are taking their lives into their hands every time they drive. And I see them on the highways as well, the idiots.
Small town? I didn't think there were any small towns within reasonable distance from CAZ. I mean, towns like Paradise Valley are technically "small" but it's all non-stop metropolis from Phoenix to PV.

Have you looked at the IQ? It's a little bigger than the Smart.
03-02-2012 , 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike_757
Now that is seriouly funny .... you make $365,000 a year playing poker - great for you.. or just a great day job.
Being part of the 1% is a good problem.
03-02-2012 , 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by rodeo
i had a bad run in january and february. it's not any fun.

i've been working on some of my tilt issues, as well as, quitting issues. something i've found to be really helpful is tommy angelo's "elements of poker". also, tommy's "eightfold path to poker enlightenment" series on deuces cracked. i recommend both highly. if you haven't already read/watched them i suggest you do, and if you have read/watch them again.
Thanks for the advice and support man

I will reread and rewatch TA's material
03-02-2012 , 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by dmenace
I would take some time off as well from the tables. Just to re-charge and clear your head from poker.
I actually did ... I took two weeks to go out to Colorado but as soon as I got back more of the same continued. I agree that R&R is important to dealing with this... but tbh I think I need to play more - I need to ride this out and work on my game while I play. I think I might do some things different such as not play distracted - like reading the forum or working on my stocks ... just chill and watch the action ... concentrate on my breathing and activitly work on relaxing. Anyway thanks again for the help and support ...
03-02-2012 , 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill


Not quite as good as a .38, but the cops won't throw you in jail for having it.
CA they probably will throw you in jail but thanks for the tip. CA Banned open carry of handguns. I would gladly pay for a CCWP 10 Years in Vietnam packing I don't think I need a training class but I would take one as well.
03-02-2012 , 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Fifty1Fifty
fyp
nice. it's too bad the "everything" you know about poker is a variant that i never play.
03-02-2012 , 11:46 AM
People - after years of playing hold'em I still have not found the secrets to the game - one is not to play a lot of long shots - http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=389 - yes, lately I am winning a few bucks but not crushing the game at all - sometime the windshield and sometimes the bug.

I usually hit a small part of the flop or a good draw and that is where the trouble begins. Example I will have QT in LP and flop J,9,7 that gives me a nice draw and then the turn ruins it with a Q,J,T,9, or 7. Takes my 6-8 out draw down to 3-1.5 or gives a player outs to a hand that beats me on the river (K,7:8,7).

Those are the hands that I need to focus on.. SSHE count them outs...
03-02-2012 , 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike_757
Example I will have QT in LP and flop J,9,7 that gives me a nice draw and then the turn ruins it with a Q,J,T,9, or 7. Takes my 6-8 out draw down to 3-1.5 or gives a player outs to a hand that beats me on the river (K,7:8,7).
did you raise the flop or just call? if you raise the flop with your draw you're more likely to hit it than if you play it passively and just call.

Last edited by rodeo; 03-02-2012 at 12:02 PM. Reason: i'm just kidding.
03-02-2012 , 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by rodeo
nice. it's too bad the "everything" you know about poker is a variant that i never play.
my 'everything' is bigger than your "everything"
03-02-2012 , 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Fifty1Fifty
my 'everything' is bigger than your "everything"
not from what you've told me in the past.
03-02-2012 , 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
Small town? I didn't think there were any small towns within reasonable distance from CAZ. I mean, towns like Paradise Valley are technically "small" but it's all non-stop metropolis from Phoenix to PV.

Have you looked at the IQ? It's a little bigger than the Smart.
Fountain Hills, while large geographically, has a population of ~25,000 w/ at least 1/3 winter visitors and a decidedly small town feel being up against the Ft. McDowell/Salt River reservations and the State and Federal parks. There's never any traffic and it's one of the reasons I'm comfortable w/ mom still driving. There are ppl driving fancy golf carts around and it's big, big news when a traffic light gets installed. One of the busiest intersections makes do w/ a 4-way stop sign. That one could use a light after all this time but the town's a bit busto atm.

      
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