Live 6-12: 22 in BB Turns Bottom Boat - Page 2 - Small Stakes Poker Forum

Two Plus Two Forums Poker Strategy Other Poker Games Micro-Small Stakes Limit

Live 6-12: 22 in BB Turns Bottom Boat

Post Reply Subscribe

...

Page 2 of 2

1 2

Page 2 of 2

1 2

10-09-2010 , 03:45 AM

#26

SetofJacks

veteran

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,378

Leo Doc is a cool guy. He slowplays teh full houses and doesn't afraid of anything.

Also, if there bad enough to call 2 cold on the turn with flush draws and open enders, then they should be bad enough to call one with just overs.
So I think I also do WLDWD.

I'm also not checking to fold a 644 flop. I know there are a lot of players who play their low pockets for set value, but there ways to win without hitting a set, and I think check-folding all non-3-of-a-kind hands is leaving a lot of money on the table via folding the best hand.

Quote

10-09-2010 , 10:59 AM

#27

AlanBostick

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 11,901

Quote:

Originally Posted by SetofJacks

I'm also not checking to fold a 644 flop. I know there are a lot of players who play their low pockets for set value, but there ways to win without hitting a set, and I think check-folding all non-3-of-a-kind hands is leaving a lot of money on the table via folding the best hand.

So you wouldn't check-fold 22 on the flop here. Would you call a bet with A2 here? Remember, it's a loose-passive game; we're very likely to have to show down a hand to win with it.

Underpairs have lousy equity on paired boards, especialy two-tone paired boards. We've got the 2

to act as a blocker, and our hand might maybe possibly be good if the turn and river came running spades; but still, we're in terrible shape. Even if our hand is good on the flop, think of all the cards we have to dodge in order to win.

Quote

10-09-2010 , 11:01 AM

#28

leo doc

Most interesting man on 2p2

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 12,132

AB-

Would you be good enuf to post your turn action?

Quote

10-09-2010 , 11:59 AM

#29

AlanBostick

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 11,901

Okay, if you want to be results-oriented about it....

Spoiler:

Quote

10-09-2010 , 12:38 PM

#30

leo doc

Most interesting man on 2p2

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 12,132

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlanBostick

Okay, if you want to be results-oriented about it....

Nope. Just wanted to know what your turn play was. But thanks anyway.

Quote

10-09-2010 , 01:51 PM

#31

AlanBostick

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 11,901

Quote:

Originally Posted by leo doc

Nope. Just wanted to know what your turn play was. But thanks anyway.

My turn play was the only real decision the hand; everything that came after was standard.

I felt like I made the right decision; and at the same time I played my hand exactly like all the donkeys I play against every day would have played it. Was I a donkey, or was I smart? Hence, this thread.

Quote

10-09-2010 , 02:49 PM

#32

leo doc

Most interesting man on 2p2

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 12,132

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlanBostick

Was I a donkey, or was I smart?

I think you played the hand brilliantly.

Quote

10-09-2010 , 03:36 PM

#33

AlanBostick

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 11,901

I had already figured that part out.

Quote

10-09-2010 , 07:20 PM

#34

avoidthe9to5

[x] 9to5 avoided

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,662

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlanBostick

I had already figured that part out.

[x] ignores major dissension

Quote

10-09-2010 , 08:36 PM

#35

BigBadBabar

California Elephant

Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 21,682

I think he means he figured out Leo Doc's opinions on it.

Quote

10-09-2010 , 09:25 PM

#36

mrcunningham

adept

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,057

Does anybody think that AB's image matters? The image being that here's one of them pushy 15/30 + 30/60 regs slumming in our game and trying to push us around?

Quote

10-09-2010 , 10:20 PM

#37

AlanBostick

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 11,901

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrcunningham

Does anybody think that AB's image matters? The image being that here's one of them pushy 15/30 + 30/60 regs slumming in our game and trying to push us around?

Yeah, I was real pushy in this hand: I checked my big blind preflop, and checked the flop with intent of folding. Are you suggesting that the reason I should raise the SB's turn bet is that everyone will assume I'm just throwing my weight around?

Quote

10-09-2010 , 10:23 PM

#38

AlanBostick

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 11,901

Quote:

Originally Posted by leo doc

I think you played the hand brilliantly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlanBostick

I had already figured that part out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by avoidthe9to5

[x] ignores major dissension

Here's a clue: the subject of leo doc's one-sentence post is "I."

Here's another clue: the verb in leo doc's one-sentence post is "think."

Now, given that I quoted leo doc's one-sentence post in its entirety, what's your best guess as to what I had already figured out?

Quote

10-10-2010 , 08:23 AM

#39

leo doc

Most interesting man on 2p2

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 12,132

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlanBostick

Was I a donkey, or was I smart?

Quote:

Originally Posted by leo doc

I think you played the hand brilliantly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlanBostick

I had already figured that part out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by avoidthe9to5

[x] ignores major dissension

Perhaps 925's sensibilities precluded him from calling you a donkey.

Quote

10-10-2010 , 12:49 PM

#40

mrcunningham

adept

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,057

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlanBostick

Yes. I ask because I have recently been playing in 15 and 20 games, and it is my impression that some of the 6 and 8 regs who have noticed might be trying to 'play back' more often. It could also be that they are just LAG, and I am not adjusting well. I ask to learn from those of you with more experience than I.

This is the corollary question to the one I asked earlier, which was when you take shots do the regs push you around more. The answer that y'all gave, which was also my experience, was that no they don't really realize you are taking a shot.

Quote

10-10-2010 , 01:30 PM

#41

avoidthe9to5

[x] 9to5 avoided

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,662

:O Never claimed English was my first language

Quote

10-14-2010 , 06:48 PM

#42

jesse8888

Yes, you barred

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 16,685

I have read nothing but declare jack it up.

Quote

10-16-2010 , 08:26 PM

#43

KenProspero

veteran

Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,079

Quote:

Originally Posted by leo doc

That's a good thought; however, it's not an option since the sb has already done that. Hero may call, raise or fold. What say you?

Raise!!!!!

Quote

10-19-2010 , 06:19 PM

#44

timmer

veteran

Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 2,280

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlanBostick

Oaks Club, fairly new game (button's gone around 2 or 3 orbits), loose-passive.

Three limpers, SB (who is not a complete idiot) completes, I check 2

in the BB. 4.33 sb in pot after drop.

Flop: 4

SB checks; I check, intending to fold to a bet. Everyone else checks, and we see a turn card. 2.17 bb in the pot.

Turn: 4

Ding! I'm smoked by 44, 66, 64, and 62. Everything else is drawing to 4 outs at the very most to beat me. I'll get lots of action from any 4, but anything else is liable to go away if I bet. I don't have the actual nuts, but it's close to the effective nuts.

The SB bets out!

If I'm up against a hand that will give me lots of action, it will give me lots of action on the river just as well as here on the turn. Is this a spot for a slowplay?

*G* did you forgt 4