Me too. 'Competent Asian Lady' is supposed to have exactly JJ bec no cap pre and she's shoveling in chips post. Got to hope 'bad player' has club draw w/o a Queen or Q-10 which seem to me to be the only hands that make sense. Pot's huge so I b/vomit/call.
Howard, the Asian lady did cap preflop. Don't think that means she can't have JJ, but she also could have AA, AcKc, or even the other KK (as far as we know, until the river).
I just check-call the turn as well, but I likely don't have the same image asmitty does.
Howard, the Asian lady did cap preflop. Don't think that means she can't have JJ, but she also could have AA, AcKc, or even the other KK (as far as we know, until the river).
I just check-call the turn as well, but I likely don't have the same image asmitty does.
It seems like reads, table dynamic and what hands you are raising PF is super important. Bad and competent are a start but I think we need more. That being said I don't think your first action is really much of a decision as betting seems really bad.
I mean checking as your first action on the river is the right play. Then you have to decide what to do based on the rest of the action. I think by the description he was implying maybe donking his set on the river and we all know only morons donk sets.
I like a river bet as played. Turn is probably a check as previous posters have pointed out. I mean she will bet her QQ or AJ anyway which she would just call with if you bet and if you are beat it saves a raise.
I donked quad 10's in a 3-bet, 7-way pre pot out of the BB and it got capped back to me. C/R turn and got to cap it. Bet river and got 2 callers. After I roll over several players exclaimed 'You bet 4 of a kind? You're not supposed to do that!' To which I said 'How'd it work out?'
I donked quad 10's in a 3-bet, 7-way pre pot out of the BB and it got capped back to me. C/R turn and got to cap it. Bet river and got 2 callers. After I roll over several players exclaimed 'You bet 4 of a kind? You're not supposed to do that!' To which I said 'How'd it work out?'
Take THAT, ZOMG!
You called 3 cold with TT preflop? Have you reviewed the definition of a donk bet in the last 24 hour?
In his defense, since Howard doesn't know what a donk bet is still, he may not have picked up on the subtle difference between a set and quads yet either
Last edited by ZOMG_RIGGED!; 06-15-2016 at 06:01 PM.
Reason: Take THAT returned!
I'd give villain a range of something like:
AcJc/KcQc/AcQc/JJ/99/AcKc/QQ (discounted)/KcJc/QcJc
On the turn, there's 11 combos beating you, 9 combos you beating. Math gets a bit complicated with 3rd guy in there, but I think there's enough reason to bet:
a. Assuming old man's range is wide enough, we can get called by 2 worse hands, so letting it get checked through is disasterous.
b. Some value in lady raising out the old man to clean up some outs (say she has a set and old man has AK or Kx)
c. There's some chance that lady doesn't raise with better or equal hands (e.g. AA/KK) or raises with worse hands (e.g. QQ/QcJc)