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12-17-2012 , 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by asmitty
the guy lost at 3/6 and posted like he lost at 3/6
Fffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuiuu

More later when I have more time.

P.S. Lifetime 3/6 winnar bitches
12-18-2012 , 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by uibu_qpqf
Confirmed permabans.
RIP "****_****", and those are not swear words.
12-18-2012 , 01:18 AM
mb mb mb, j'n tp tfyz
12-18-2012 , 01:43 AM
Another -10BB/hr 8/16 session.

Hand of the night:
Villain is open-raising 60-70 % of hands in later position.
Pre: Villain open-raises LJ, 2 folds, Hero 3-bets 44, CO, folds back to Villain who 4-bets, Hero calls.
Flop 678r: Villain bets, Hero calls, w/ gutshot, pair, set-draw.
Turn 4r: Villain bets, Hero raises, Villain 3-bets, Hero calls.
River J: Villain bets, Hero calls. Villain shows 3s ...... 5s for the straight.
12-18-2012 , 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by albacorela
Another -10BB/hr 8/16 session.

Hand of the night:
Villain is open-raising 60-70 % of hands in later position.
Pre: Villain open-raises LJ, 2 folds, Hero 3-bets 44
You do realize that even against a 67% opening range (which includes 53s), you're only a 52/48 favorite?
12-18-2012 , 02:53 AM
Is it safe to come out now?
12-18-2012 , 03:28 AM
FINALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
12-18-2012 , 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by DougL
Just a quick FYI don't post dumb stuff, especially about guns/shooting in OOT (or anywhere) in the forums right now. Even though you have a high post count, long history of being a good poster, and no infractions, you still may get perma-banned. Normally, BBB or I might be able to help out in these spots, however, the OOT mods are so fed up that we might not be able to do anything. People around here tend not to do this stuff anyway, but fair warning.
So, was that_pope banned?
12-18-2012 , 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by wbatas
So, was that_pope banned?
Yup. He tried to be perversely funny by bumping an old OOT thread about "How many five year olds..." in the wake of what happened in CT. I'd say that qualifies as an ill-fated attempt at humor.
12-18-2012 , 09:14 AM
And dos-

We tried to give you guys the game last night. Why did you keep giving it back?
12-18-2012 , 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain R
You do realize that even against a 67% opening range (which includes 53s), you're only a 52/48 favorite?
Yes, I realized its 50/50 to the river, but not on the flop and I thought I would have some fold equity since I'd been at table 1 1/2 hours and had played two hands, folded flop on those.
12-18-2012 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by albacorela
Yes, I realized its 50/50 to the river, but not on the flop and I thought I would have some fold equity since I'd been at table 1 1/2 hours and had played two hands, folded flop on those.
Not sure how you realize fold equity on the flop by just calling?
12-18-2012 , 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Groovenstein
I will soon be starting my own law firm doing all contingency-fee work, and this mentality I learned from poker is going to be a tremendous help. There are good lawyers who lose trials somewhat regularly. I know one very good lawyer who is 0 for his last 6.
Good PF hand selection FTW.
12-18-2012 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by wbatas
That was an insane game. The guy I played against in fantasy football was down 40 going into tonight's game. I'm up 17 going into tomorrow nights game. I have Kenny Brit left to play. I think I have this game locked.
Oh no, they just arrested Kenny. You bastards.
12-18-2012 , 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jesse8888
Is it safe to come out now?
Yes....psyche! Now it is, jkjk. No- for real.....gotcha!

12-18-2012 , 01:30 PM
Brady haz a mad:

12-18-2012 , 01:41 PM
My room had a quarterly promotional drawing on Saturday. As a lead-up to the drawing, they give away $50 every 15 minutes -- either player or table (splash pot) drawings. The games tend to be soft. So I try not to miss them. Had a rough 8-16 session on Saturday. Put $450 on the table early and, while I got close to even several times, could never get over the hump. Even though I had a great position on my table.

Most of my money seemed to come from BTN steals as the BTN. Drop is $5. Problem was that BB is a 2+2er who will defend his BB aggressively, both pre-and post-flop. He's a good hand reader post-flop. SB is LP -- cold called a BTN steal in a kill pot (no posted kill) with 9-7 and then x/c his way to victory against BB's PF 3-bet and then 3-barrel. SB is just bad. BTN steasl against BB are a hard way to make hard money. But I'm just struggling to catch hands to the BTN steals were among the best spots I was finding. Like I said, tough day.

So, folds around to hero with 87s on the BTN. Standard raise, right? Not a kill pot.

Just wanted a check-up.
12-18-2012 , 01:54 PM
Get equilab. Look at the standard opening ranges, perhaps using the deucescracked.com one. 87s is not the worst hand you're opening. It also provides you more ability to hit middle flops hard, preventing your BB from owning you on non-Broadway flops.
12-18-2012 , 03:06 PM
Anyone gonna be at FW on Saturday or Sunday?
12-18-2012 , 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by bump86
Good PF hand selection FTW.
This is no lie. Damn some of the cases here are horrible and could have been avoided with better intake and the balls to say no.
12-18-2012 , 04:09 PM
Doug,

I just ran Stove and I've <1% edge against two randoms.

If SB has a 60% range to continue and BB is only slightly tighter at about 58% (3-betting much wider than BB), I think it looks something like this:

1. About 17% of the time, both fold -- win BB (SB gets dropped).

2. About 23% of the time SB folds and BB plays -- 43% equity with position and initiative some of the time (BB is 3-betting pretty wide here).

3. About 31% of the time, SB plays and BB folds -- 46% equity with positon and initiative.

4. About 35% of the time, both play -- 31% equity with position and initiative some of the time (BB is still 3-betting pretty wide).

So, if I'm doing this right, I'm getting 2.35 BB back for every 2 BB I put in the pot. This does not factor in what happens when I get 3-bet.

I agree that 87s can hit middle flops hard, which is also where BB plays back at me hard (apparenlty under the assumption that I've got mostly overs in my range). The potential to hit a big hand -- straight/flush -- also provide some nice overlay to playing this hand.

As played, SB folded and BB called. I flopped trip 7s and b/c the flop, raised turn, led river for a nice pot. BB (2+2er) was critical of my opener as he thought 87s was too light to open. Of course, that just could have been mind games designed to get me to back off my BTN raising. So I wasn't sure if it was honest feedback since he was a little conflicted, LOL. Just wanted the checkup to confirm that I opened correctly, even with a PITA BB fighting tooth-n-nail to defend.

Thanks for the feedback, Doug. Always appreciated.
12-18-2012 , 04:10 PM
Running at around 3BB/hr in 34 hrs since the 10/20 LHE started here a month ago. Means nothing ldo but beats the alternative.

Now watch me botch a hand:

Two limpers to me otb I call KJo, blinds are in, 5-handed to flop. JT3r. Loose limper bets, I raise, TAG SB check/3!, folds to me I call. Turn 7 he bets I call. River 4 no flush he checks I check.

I do make good decisions sometimes.
12-18-2012 , 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Groovenstein
This is no lie. Damn some of the cases here are horrible and could have been avoided with better intake and the balls to say no.
Absolutley. I'm not a lawyer. But I'm surmising that case selection has a lot of analogies to PF poker hand selection. Both are resource allocation exercises with underlying risk/reward analyses.
12-18-2012 , 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Groovenstein
Running at around 3BB/hr in 34 hrs since the 10/20 LHE started here a month ago. Means nothing ldo but beats the alternative.

Now watch me botch a hand:

Two limpers to me otb I call KJo, blinds are in, 5-handed to flop. JT3r. Loose limper bets, I raise, TAG SB check/3!, folds to me I call. Turn 7 he bets I call. River 4 no flush he checks I check.

I do make good decisions sometimes.
Groovy,

I 3-bet this PF if the limpers aren't TP (i.e., they limping hands that crush us) and blinds will fold. I'll take this 4-ways for a raise if I'm ahead of the limpers' ranges.

Once you're heads up on the flop, I slow down. Is TAG betting the turn with a straight draw or just 2PR+? His turn bet, river check line is inconsistent with a missed draw. So I just showdown cheap as I'm not sure what worse hands call down. I mean, he isn't 3-betting QJ on the flop, is he?
12-18-2012 , 04:26 PM
Which nit 2+2er thinks 87s is so far out of a reasonable BTN opening range that they would not only disapprove but vocally do so?

      
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