Similar to my previous post, B+M hand transcribed from memory, some details missing.

I had AT in early position in a pretty weak and loose game. I raise and get a couple of callers, and the button re-raises. We all call for eight small bets in the pot.

The flop is T 7 2 (or similar) giving me TPTK and a backdoor flush draw. I bet, get one caller, and the button raises. We both call, for 7 big bets on the turn.

My read: the raiser had just sat down. I put him on an overpair, JJ-KK, with AA less likely since I have one of them myself. I thought the other caller was just a typical "call and pray" guy that you get in these games, though in retrospect I should have considered his hand more.

The turn is a blank. We check to the raiser, who bets, and we call. Same on the river: blank, check to the raiser, bet, and we call.

My thinking:

On the flop, TPTK and nut flush backdoor is pretty solid. If I'm behind to an overpair (other than AA) or scrawny two-pair I have 5 outs. Betting seems right, and so does calling the raiser.

On the turn my flush draw disappears and I'm feeling a bit weaker. With a raiser and another caller behind me I don't feel that I can bet. I still have 5 outs against likely overpairs, 2 of them for the nuts, and at the time I call there are 8 big bets in the pot. In hindsight, maybe I should have considered my three A outs as partial (either because someone may have a set, or AA), and judged myself as having 3.5 outs, making 8:1 pot odds not so good.

On the river I really didn't think the other check-caller would call behind me, and I called mainly on the principle of it being a big pot (10 BB) that wasn't worth getting away from for just one bet. If I had known or suspected the other caller would call again, I would probably have folded.

In a loose game why open with A10s in early position?

From what I understand it's a decent hand to open with in either loose or tight games. In a loose game its value comes more from making big flushes, of course.

In a loose game, why NOT open with ATs in early position?

raising pf is fine. so is limping if the games passive. so is folding if the game is tight/aggressive.

the flop is a very standard flop c/r against most opponents. unless you donk alot of flops in this situation, your bet allows villain to play perfectly. he can raise if he thinks his equity is good, he can fold if he thinks his equity is bad, and he can call if he thinks he has the odds to draw. he will inevitably bet most any hand on the flop that he would 3bet with preflop. so check, let him make the mistake of continutation betting and checkraise to limit the field and get some value.

if he 3bets the flop, you can call down or call and makes some decisions on the big streets depending on what you think of him. against alot of live opponents that 3bet pf and 3bet a c/r(by a preflop raiser) on the flop your pair of tens are usually toast. as such you can maybe find a fold postflop by taking that line.

i've always thought of the flop as the nexus of how you are going to proceed in the hand. when you jam the flop with a strong holding(versus wait for the turn where it allows an opponent to get away) you get called down by worse hands more often. also, you are able to define your opponent's range on a small bet street before it gets expensive later.

No one in this forum should be folding ATs preflop because they shouldn't be playing in games that tough.

Flop bet vs. c/r is the only debatable street imo

I would c/r the flop.

We raised PF in EP. Isn't there a fair chance that if we check da frop going for a C/R that it gets checked frough?