Limp from a new player, she recently sat down and is in a hurry to order drinks. She beat me in a previous hand when I raised PF, got 6 callers, c-bet a KJJ board with AQo and she called with Q10o and turned the 9.

We limp behind or raise?

Turbo muck. Drop down in stakes. Or come play at commerce, we'd love to have you.

fold

do you play in GBH or brantford?

Just started playing Brantford? You play there too?

In a game where preflop raises get 6 callers, I think I'm OK limping behind here; it's certainly not a "turbo" muck in a game where flops are going off multiway for 1-2 bets.

How does knowing she ordered a drink or draws for open ended straights affect our decision when we have A2s UTG+1 in a full ring game?

Muck.

brantford, but not there that often anymore lol

Don't raise. I'd rather fold than raise with this in early position. Limping should encourage other players to limp along, especially after another player has already limped. I would limp in.

If the table is tight for a 5/10 table, then I would fold. But if several people are limping in most of the time, then I would limp in.

In the described game I would limp along.

THe problem with Ace deuey sooooted is you're playing it ONLY for flush or trip deuces value. Every thing else makes this a payoff hand. So I tend to muck it and not think much about it. If I were in the loosest of most passive games I might consider it but I'm not interested if its likely going to be 3-4 way and raised or 3b behind me.

LMAO

We limp. 7 players to the flop of A Q 7 rainbow with the Q of clubs. Drink girl checks. We?

This game sounds pretty damn juicy.

I think I want to limp in with this hand.

That's awesome, since he did and flopped well, so now we just need to collect the money in a 7 way pot with A2. Action is on you.

He didn't flop well.

i think that flop is as good as "well" will get.

if u want more, then he will flop "great"

on this board it is likely if he is behind with his kicker, that he can still chop and not lose the pot to draws when overs come, so i think he flopped well.

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my plan is to bet it down and call down one raise on the flop. if raised on any other street its a fold unless u have pot odds or improve

this may sound weird, but I think I might check and see what the action is back to us. maybe take a WA/WB line unless we improve to 2 pair or better. k/c and a Q in LP might bet, and we can continue to call unless the board gets bad for us.

do you guys hate that idea?

Check, raise a late position bet, call an early position bet, fold for 2 bets.

I actually think it matters a lot. From my experience, when I lack reads on a player, stereotyping based on what you know (race, sex, age, level of intoxication, clothes, etc.) generally works better than imagining you are playing against some FTP or PS avatar that you know nothing about. I actually find stereotyping works rather well.

Depending on the players behind, I'm very likely to raise here.

You mean depending on the 7 or 8 players we have behind?. Her ordering a drink gives you an edge to raise A2?. You need to to talk to your shrink about this issue.

We bet and get 3 callers. Drink girl, table loose passive playa who is involved in another hand I posted and a bad reg. Turn is a Jd. Drink girl checks. We?

First, I only care about players that have position against me, so like 5 players. There are several things going for hero in this spot. First, she's open limping UTG. That increases hero's edge. I would very easily raise a complete unknown with something like A5s in this spot for instance, and often A4s too. That fact that she's ordering drinks is also not irrelevant. If you think that someone ordering a drink in a small stakes game provides hero no info in any situation, I have to strongly disagree.

In small stakes games, one should always assume the worst about their opponents until proven otherwise. Not the other way around. Hero MUST make some assumptions when he lacks reads. It's not like we're in a tough game here. If hero assumes unknowns are tough, it will cost hero a lot more money than assuming unknowns are fish. If hero has no reads, assuming an unknown that is ordering drinks is tough costs hero a lot more money than assuming she is there specifically to drink, gamble, and have fun.

I think you're underestimating the fact that your hand is 50% against a random hand, over 2/3 of the time at least one of the 7 remaining player wakes up with a top 15% hand, the big blind will normally call, and this is 5/T showdown poker.

A pf raise here is so terrible regardless of how bad the rest of the table plays that I still think you are pulling my leg. If so, well played sir .

It's better than folding.

What kind of drink? Jameson is one thing a glass of wine another, heh.

I don't mind limping if there's a good chance many players will limp along. I'd really like to only have to put in one bet. The problem for so many players is that they are going to bleed when they flop just the Ace. We are looking for a better flop than that one. I'd check and pray that either it gets checked thru or that it goes for one bet multi-way. I dump it on the flop to heavy action. I'm not going to c/r a late position player in the assumption that they are making a move and our Ace is good bec so few will bet lesser Aces into so many players.
See the turn for cheap or take the chance you go for more bets on the installment plan.