8$-16$ pretty passive and loose game.

Hero has 66 in CO

EP limps, MP calls, HJ calls, Hero calls, blind are in

FLOP:

997

Checked to me, I donk and all call.

TURN:

J

All check to HJ who bets out...... me?


Should I have bet the flop?
Should I call the turn?

Taking a stab at this pot when it's checked to you is OK. When all call, you're done unless you spike one of your two outs on the turn.

wanted to reply, but can't add much, leo is spot on...

Yeah the stab is certainly fine, but you are definitely done with this hand now.

*g*

Raise pre. You have three limpers in and great position. By investing one extra bet you likely buy the button and a four-card flop when you miss (game is passive), and build a bigger pot to attach people to when you hit (game is loose). At game speed I probably just call 55, but I'm not sure if that's the right cutoff point.

I probably bet this flop when checked to but I'm not sure that's right.

Turn is a fold. Everyone called a paired rainbow flop, it's very likely one of them has at least a 7. The J completes an OESD (T8) and pairs up some straight draws (remember, they have JT). You have two outs and the pot is nowhere near big enough.

J comes
value leaves

el-fold-o

really good thoughts here

I like this play more when I can count on my limping opponents being on Broadway cards and very possibly being entangled. Loads of good value there. If it comes rags or mid pair BD str8 card I can bang it again with value. Hoping they will call with entangled overcards. However If they are limping with full ranges I must be very careful on almost every flop that doesn't hit me hard. thereby making my perhaps too common raise check fold line bait for flop aggression in the future from other wise timid opponents.

Id much rather limp , raise, barrel on good flops against these guys and limp dump it on bad ones with these dinky pairs. I do realize I may sacrificing some apparent value pre on some hands. but I can more than make up for it when I set up or flop good when they cd or play for raises with weak or longshot holdings.

we need to pay attention to opponents preflop limping ranges in LLHE. Doing so lets us know when to farm sets pre and fold when we miss or take a 4 card look and when to smash it with value pre and barrel when the flop comes missing their apparent ranges thereby setting up our take down on the turn when they still might have significant value. But obviously we will never completely abandon the raise check fold line in position, nor would we wish to. We just dont want to use it too much. A

ie AQs on a KT8 1 trump flop would be a great place to get a 4 card look with a few loose timid broadway prone limpets who will call down with QT or K9o when We hit an ace or will play for raises with QJ when we connect or redraw. I wont even talk about the guys that k/cd w/ T9 or such.

As played fold to the J. Any reason for him to call your bet and then donk gives you 2 outs at best.

I am part of the grab the lead before the flop with a raise group. If, as usual, everyone checks to the raiser, you can bet and may get some superior hands or weak draws to fold. The remaining payers may also check to you after the J appears and you can then assess the value of keeping the lead or taking a free river card. My decision will be very player and my image dependent.

fine so far, now fold

raising pre, I get the motivation and it could buy the button, but I wouldn't do it. I think you actually have more FE if you limp, and if you're going to try to win UI you want to have it.

your flop bet is not a donkbet. It would be a donk if BTN raised behind you.

that is close to the nut worst turn. The only straight draws that didn't just get there are those that have 6's in them, and you hold two of the 6's. Five callers makes it all the easier to give up.

Agree w/ the other posters. Your hand is doing okay on the flop, but this multiway, on the turn, when a high card comes, it's no good.