I was playing 3/6 LLHE 10 player game. The SB is an Asian man that is a very loose regular. Often has a big stack. Not sure if he wins long term - likes to hit and run after winning one rack+.

I pick up A Q MP and raise one limper, one player calls, three blinds come in.

We have 6 players for 2 small bets each.

Flop: 6 Q 9 (6 players, 11sb)

SB bets, BB folds, EP2 calls, I raise, folded to SB who calls, EP2 calls.

Turn: 9 (3 players, 7.5 bb)

SB does a Hollywood ah shucks and checks, EP2 checks, my turn.

I bet, SB raises, EP2 folds...

Comments?

Of course, I could have checked the turn but is that smart (mubs). I could credit him for a 9 and fold but that seems stupid and very weak. I could raise him but that seems like spew. My hand reading skills suck but put him on a 9 (play his range and I beat some of his range like a rare 7 8).

Is it normal to call down?

His preflop range is ATC since they will call a raise with any two cards. His bet on the flop is usually one pair Q or 9, 77-TT. Two pair, set I think he check raises. Draw I think he calls. Small percentage he did not 3bet AQ, AA, KK, or 99. He called my raise so I figure one pair. No idea why he bet OOP. I don't think that he is good but WTF do I know. I would be answering not asking.

Thanks

You only said loose and not passive/aggressive. If he's aggressive then I'm getting to showdown hoping to see KQ or QJ or 78 or Qx. Have you been raising a lot preflop and on the flop? You say he has a big stack often. Sounds like you have more than a couple hours of experience with him and should have a read on how aggressive he is. If he's passive I fold.

He is not passive. I would say he leans toward the aggressive side when he thinks that he is ahead. Problem is that he would play AQ and 9x the same IMO.

I have I'd the ones to fold 100%. A hand full of players I would insta-fold.

So as it is with poker is it comes down to your read and that is why I play 3/6.

call him down and find out. then use what you find against him.

Thanks, I did that and watched him until he left the table but we did not have another hand to tangle. We will cross paths since he is a regular and there are five 3/6 tables. I will remember how he plays.

If this player is aggressive, I would call him down. An aggressive player might raise a draw on the turn, then fired the river even if he missed.

If an aggressive player check/raises you on the turn, then checks the river, I would not bet. Either he missed his draw and will fold, or he will check/raise you again with some monster.

Grunch

Well the ABC play is to cc if he's agro and fold.if he's passive.

A "Hollywood " check or speech following a raise ott is usually the nuts and I'm inclined to fold here no matter the player type. I just think we are crushed here.

call down,take notes
he could easily have picked up a draw there

Against 3 players and each one has a different pair on the flop then they have 2 outs each to hit trips on the turn. About 16% that the turn card gave someone trips so we cannot check every time the turn pairs against 3 players - unless we have some knowledge of the player that "announces" I have TRIPS with a ck/r.

Against the same three players a pair on the river would likely give someone trips another 16% of the time - Turn and River 32%. This is why AK with top- top is better than an over pair IMO - it takes away some outs.

In a game where a player would semi-bluff you need to doubt that announcement (what concerned me here is that I let him trap me on the turn - a few will hollywood to get a free card - most that want to check raise are still and quite afraid that you might check behind).

An aggro player will bet/raise on the come, re-raise without the nuts, raise pre with a wide range of hands, ck-r draws, wait until the turn to raise - I'm sure I missed some.

Question to self: does this guy fit that category? One woman would check call the flop and bet the turn and I would fold against her.

Thanks

So the answer is to do what I feel is best depending on what I think about the player - if it is rare for him to c/r wo/9 then fold - else call down and take note of how he plays.

I am at the table so my choice - but there is no 'correct' way to play this hand.

Dolly's book the woman (Jen H.) that wrote the limit chapter said - know your player - then she had a laundry list of things to take note of for example:

o - What they will do with 2pr, trips, etc.
o - What they will do with a draw, OOP and IP, etc.

Call the turns raise, you act last on the river.

I'd call him down. Checking the turn is bad without a very good read on villain (although if you have seen him do this multiple times, and he has had monsters every time, it is totally acceptable to check back the turn).

I watched a 15/30 game and the action went the same as this hand without the Hollywood. Less players, HU on turn, I was 3-way.

EP raise preflop, FLop blind checks, EP bets, blind called, turn gets c/r by blind, EP calls raise and EP calls river.

Looked ABC to me.

yeah as played a hand like Q J will raise a bunch of the time.
Plus when he shows down you get great insight into his playing tendancied