AK?

Q6 or 63?

I was initially confused about the Gretzky reference, due to the fact that he played for the Kings, wore #99, and not being that knowledgeable about hockey myself, I forgot that he wore #99. Then when Chillrob said "you only called?" I really did a double take.

But back to the Gretzky/Hellmuth controversy. How can you call a poker hand "the Gretzky" when it's already been widely referred to as "the Hellmuth"? If you asked Phil, I think he would understand where I was coming from.

Speaking of Phil Hellmuth being irritated, for those of you who did not have the pleasure of watching Phil's bustout hand in the 25k USPO Aria 8 Game tourney, please let me release the transcript - complete w what they were REALLY thinking in parentheses.

Previously, on "Phil Busts the 25k 8 Game Aria highroller"

2-7 round: Ike Haxton opens UTG 237xx, 1 fold iirc, and Hellmuth folds 3578x as the short stack. Ike hadn't been nitting it up in the limit games and Hellmuth could've gotten all in w dead money before the last draw iirc, provided nobody else woke up w a big hand. He had a positional advantage that is key in 2-7 wrt all-in drawing decisions. Not worst play ever though.

Phil chuckles to himself and tells everyone what a great fold he made. (I'm the greatest NLHE player of all-time and history backs it up. They don't want to see me make it to that round!)

Everyone chuckles along in a friendly way (Hehe, what a self-delusional nit. He probably had like 2568x. How could he fold that against Ike? Keep folding to that win, Phil. You're the greatest NLHE player of all-time rofl.)

Tonight, on "Phil Busts the 25k 8 Game Aria High Roller" finale:

Stud hi: An even shorter-stacked Hellmuth gets all in against one Chris Vitch. Phil has the worst hand iirc, but the equities are about even. Chris eliminates Phil.

Phil stands up and you can see how badly he wants to be the Poker Brat. However, he has just busted a 25k mix tourney, not a 1500 NLHE WSOP event. Defense mechanisms adjust quickly. First, before he leaves, "Gl everybody. Chris, I think I owe you one buddy. Maybe even more than one hehe" (If it wasn't for luck, I'd win every one.)

Everybody bids adieu. (Damn, I wish somebody else got knocked out. Whose blinds can I steal now? Ok, focus, how many chips do we have left?)

Chris looks at Phil, the legend he has just busted and commiserates, "Ha, yeah you might be right. I think I might owe you more than a couple." (How can I simultaneously be gracious, show respect for my elders, and procure some future action in the cash games? I think that did the trick.)

The Bust-Out Interview w Maria Ho:

Maria: (This should be interesting.) "So Phil - tell us blah blah blah, something gracious and complimentary"

Phil: "Well, I got it in so short and it was about a coin toss. The guy Chris Vitch, he's a good player and all, but he hasn't lost a pot to me in 2 days. I mean, the guy must've won the last 10 pots we've played. People don't realize this, because they see all my 15 bracelets and that they are all in NLHE. But I've probably got as many non-holdem 2nds and 3rds as anybody out there. I'm truly one of the greatest mixed game players out there but not too many people realize it because they just see me for the 15 time world champion holdem player that I am.

Maria: (I'm just gonna have to interrupt him to get this quick wrap-up back on track) "Phil, who do you feel is really playing sharp out there and does anybody stand out as a clear-cut favorite to you?"

Phil: "Well Ike is tough in some of the big bet games and Chidwick has been in form. Vitch has experience, especially in the limit games . . . it's almost not fair, though. For two days, I've basically played perfect. I'm playing great, I feel great. After all these years as such a dominant player, I'm still showing people how great I play. I've won lots of money recently. But I haven't been able to close it out and that's all I are about. All the money I've won and as great as I've been playing recently, it's very disappointing to play so great and just not win, you know? It's not about contending for me. I'm a 15 time world champion. I just want to win so bad." (If it wasn't for luck I'd win every one)

I only watched it once a couple weeks ago so I'm sure the minor details are messed up but that's how I remembered it.

He had the ol K8 of spades. To be fair it was pretty clear that he misread his hand and thought he had K6, but that was indicative about how good the game was.

I’ve never heard 99 called the Hellmuth before. I know this is the state of hockey, but I just assumed it that is what it is called everywhere. I can only think of one more iconic sports number (23).

Close...

Also never heard 99 called the hellmuth.

It was the hand he won the WSOP ME with...

It's no ten deuce.

I thought we might discuss something social without it turning political. Not why should we or why shouldn't we raise or lower the legal age of adulthood, but what would happen if we did?

I started thinking about this because my 16 year old compadre of sorts holds the opinion that the legal age of adulthood should be raised to 25. I didn't take the opposing stance in the conversation. I just let him talk about the march and what it meant to him. It did make me wonder about what would happen if we lowered the age of adulthood to 16 and granted rights as they age. After all, kids can be tried as adults in court. They can legally(?) drop out of school at 16. Then they can drive soon after that. 18? They can fight in a war, or they can join the working class, or they can continue their studies. I've been asking the reasonably minded people in my life what they thought of the walkout. This take was the most thought provoking.

Most people just said stuff like "lack of life experience necessary to make certain decisions," or "I thought it was really nice" or "I think the kids are very well spoken."

My take after thinking about it for a while? Since you asked:

The kids don't feel safe. They want to feel safe. Fix it by making schools safe.

Pretty sure I make worse decisions at 35 than I did at 18.

Pretty sure I was more independent to make bad decisions at 35 than at 18.

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Pretty sure if I was an adult at 16 I'd be a dead one and or incarcerated.

Actually, definitely the latter.

Of course I got crushed on Friday. Well, that's hyperbole because 2 racks isn't getting crushed, but in good games it can feel that way.

When it comes to being responsible/acting like an "adult," I feel like the age of "adulthood" is moving upward, not downward. As for the granting of rights, I'm not so sure I agree with allowing 16-year-olds to drink, but voting seems pretty reasonable to me.

If 16yos could vote Logan Paul would be the next POTUS, which would maybe be an upgrade.

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1. Fundamentally, why do people need adult status before we take them seriously?

I talk to my 5 year old about guns. I talk to my 5 year old about penises. I talk to my 5 year old about cholera in Yemen.

When he's scared I try to make him less scared but also explain that sometimes adults are scared too and it's okay to be both brave and scared at the same time.

2. Adults get scared too.

I'd argue that a big part of the gun debate is gun owners being scared. There is crime, there are scary things, and having a gun is their way of feeling better.

This debate really isn't adults vs kids, it's adults with kids having a frank discussion on how to make everyone safer.

3. Adults need to set the example.

I'd argue a good way to make kids less scared is to set up adult systems the look like they're working, and preferrably, actually working. Every time we demonstrate conflict resolution skills, we stack the deck in favor of our kids learning how to settle their disputes without guns. Every time we treat people with respect - whether they're friends/enemies or people of other races or people who struggle with mental/physical illness or whatever combination it's hardest for us to respect - we make it more likely that our kids care about people.

--- politard alert ---

Trump sets a pretty bad example so parents need to step up their example game.

Because some need to use tricks and tools that invalidate the opinions of others in order to feel like they're correct. Age discrimination, for lack of a better term, is just one of these tools.

Nice.

The fact that I got an infraction for having a link to my blog in a signature is utterly ridiculous.

WHO CARES? Seriously.

This goes both ways. Young people too quickly dismiss opinions of older people sometimes.

Students feeling safe is not the only priority. It may not even be a top priority for some people. And students need to come to grips with the fact that there may be some competing interests and not everyone gets everything they want if they shout loud enough.

Maybe not, but students being safe, should be number one.

It's a business decision. Don't take it personally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6zryIyVlmo

Schools need more Morgan Freeman imo.

I’m not taking it personally I just think it’s silly and unnecessary.

A poker forum is like “oh you’re a poker player with poker content? We can’t have that here.”

This is a HUGE part of it. I got into a conversation/debate about guns with a good friend in Texas. At least culturally there, it's a sense of "it's my job to protect my family from the abstract threat of violence" and this is how they feel empowered.

I will also say that in some contexts, I don't mind guns. Out in rural Texas? Sure, let the teachers have guns (assuming that they pass safety training and a reasonable background check). No problem. In a population dense urban school? I don't like it.

But you see the same thing in places that have passed laws/ordinances that punish parents for letting their kids play at a park unsupervised. Fear, more than reality, is driving the sense that this is important. Random child abductions are way down, and the highest risk of child abduction (and other forms of violence against children) is from someone that the family knows.

My general position is that a one-size-fits-all solution to the national problem will never work because there's such a disparity of sub-cultures and beliefs that will mean that national consensus is unlikely to happen.

Nah. It's more like, "Our company, our products, our rules."

As soon as you start allowing some people to post blogs, you open the door for other types of personal advertising. I think they'd rather not deal with it other than as a blanket policy.

Pretty bad rule. Let’s say I go into the health and nutrition forum and someone is an expert in that area and blog about it all the time. I’ll never know that unless I check their profile? Etc.