2/4 B&M, 10 handed, loose & mostly passive

MP1 hasn't gotten out of line from what I've seen, but he's shortstacked right now and may be just going for broke.

MP3 is an overaggressive drunk idiot. With 62o he bet/3bet a KJ2 flop against a solid straightforward player. He checkraised/called a 4 card flush river with a 3 of flush suit in his hand. He bet/called into a large field on the turn with air.

Preflop: Hero is CO with K Q
UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, Hero 2bets, SB coldcalls, BB calls, others call

Flop (6 players, ~10 SB): K Q J
SB checks, idiot BB bets, UTG+1 calls, MP1 2bets, MP3 3bets, Hero caps, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 coldcalls, MP3 calls

Turn (3 players, 12 BB): 5
MP1 bets (only 1 BB left), MP2 2bets, Hero 3bets, MP1 calls (all-in), MP2 calls

River (2 players + 1 all-in, 18 BB + 2 BB sidepot) 2
MP2 bets, Hero calls

Comments on all streets appreciated.

GoveraggressivesoberidiotG

Did MP3 turn into MP2 on the turn?

I play the hand the same until the river, where I'd raise MP2/3 one more time. He's an idiot, right? You have top two? Get one more bet back I say.

Whoops, yes, MP2 is actually MP3 on the turn/river. (I can't seem to edit my original post)

I agree.

No one thinks my 3bet on the turn is overplaying it? It concerns me a bit that I've coldcapped the flop (which at my live table happens, like, never) only to have both villains bet/raise into me on the turn...

Sure, MP1 probably has you crushed. But you've got to be ahead of MP3's range, given your read of him as a drunk lag-tard. That turn 3-bet is only against him, not against MP1, so I see no reason not to make it.

pf I dont usually raise KQo unless I am open raising in late position

flop I agree with you

Turn I agree with the 3 bet. I think its possible that MP1 has you beat because he has bet at every opportunity after the flop. However, its also possible that he has something like a pair with a ten. Sometimes it's so hard to judge what a player is doing when he is shortstacked. We know he is going all in though, so you can focus on MP3. given your description its very easy not to give him credit for T9, especially after he doesnt cap the turn. I want to get as many bets out of him as possible, so I definately raise the river

On the river you are probably crushing MP3 so I am willing to put in more action based on your read. The more interesting choice is whether you 4bet if he reraises.

I have to admit, I'm a little surprised everyone thinks I should put in another raise here on the river. I've raise preflop, coldcapped the flop and cold 3bet the turn; most MUBSy villains are putting me on AT while all other regular villains are putting me on KK/QQ/JJ. Even overaggressive idiots can hand read, and yet he still bets into me on the river? His turn call is puzzling though...

i think pf is more marginal than people are making it out to be in this thread.

I usually raise KQo in this spot pf, but I agree it is marginal. I wouldn't raise QJo or KJo.

Are you suggesting that after many limpers it is better to limp KQo? If so, how many limpers? Under what game conditions?

This is what I tend to do also. There have been three times in my last 5k hands or so when I have raised KQ on the button or CO only to have the blinds wake up with monsters, 3bet, fold the others, and then have me folding or weakly showing down TP2K that is no good.

Nah raising to get position on bad playing ep limpers isnt terrible.

I go ahead and raise in ROF situations here

Ill just flat call the river and hope they are not limping in with BP's AT or 9T.

it sure looks like 9T is a real possibility though