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10-10-2012 , 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by suic!deking
I'm going to resend the file to remove TB from your computer; follow the steps in that email and you will be good to go.

S!K
Oh yes its so easy two options and it still is stuck and I have missed hours at a great time to play.
Thanks
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10-10-2012 , 02:52 PM
still not working with the two options and once an hour 'support' say I don't know why!

Useless crap steer away!
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10-11-2012 , 08:29 PM
Sorry, but while the idea might be valid the execution is bad joke.

After downloading and messing with the setting for 5 minutes I started playing 2NL to test the rules, and found out this program makes my client lag somewhat, which in itself is tilting me more than anything possible in poker.

now because I lost 6$ in 2NL I can't start my normal 5kNL session and I CAN'T SHUT OFF OR UNINSTALL THE PROGRAM FOR 6 HOURS... are you kidding me, really?

It's not that hard to imagine people will be using the trial for TRAILING, and should be allowed 1-2-3 first uses without limitations.

To anyone considering trying this software - don't.
The developers might be nice guys with good intentions, but this program is amateurish and would not pass anywhere ever as a real 'career' tool.
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10-11-2012 , 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Tired
Sorry, but while the idea might be valid the execution is bad joke.

After downloading and messing with the setting for 5 minutes I started playing 2NL to test the rules, and found out this program makes my client lag somewhat, which in itself is tilting me more than anything possible in poker.

now because I lost 6$ in 2NL I can't start my normal 5kNL session and I CAN'T SHUT OFF OR UNINSTALL THE PROGRAM FOR 6 HOURS... are you kidding me, really?

It's not that hard to imagine people will be using the trial for TRAILING, and should be allowed 1-2-3 first uses without limitations.

To anyone considering trying this software - don't.
The developers might be nice guys with good intentions, but this program is amateurish and would not pass anywhere ever as a real 'career' tool.
Disagree, I think its very good and wish I got it sooner actually.
No lag for me and I am running a ridiculous amount of stuff at the same time. (12gb ram).

I also think the keyword in your post is "trial", you should have expected the possibility of running into some complications, computer issues, or things generally not running smoothly, which is one of the points behind a "trial".

Think it's pretty unfair to the developers by warning other people against it just because you got some computer lag from it and locked yourself out playing NL2, you didn't have to pay a thing for it afterall.
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10-11-2012 , 09:50 PM
It's hard not to sound like a douchebag when criticizing something and I probably come off the wrong way, but I'm really being just honest.

My system is legitimately stripped down to nothing except poker utilities (HEM, TN), chrome, foobar and microsoft's security essentials running in the background.
It's a i7-2600K OC with 16GB G.Skill ram and the system (+poker) drive is a OCZ ssd.
The only thing I can imagine clashing with TiltBreaker is MSE and that is really TB's problem if it is indeed the reason.
The thing is I don't care why it's lagging and I don't want to care. It has never lagged with anything before and probably never will again.

Given that, the world trial does not equal "beta" - trial is simply trailing a program, unlike beta testing and being prepared for bugs or "thing generally not running smoothly".

It is hands down poor planning and thought process that led the developers of this application to not even include a warning that says "listen man, once you start a session with this program, you won't be able to install it for 6 [default] hours".
I mean, come on, I almost set the damn "day" value to 12 hours because I was like "that sounds reasonable".

At this moment the function of this software on my computer is identical to a virus.
It has nothing but negative influence on me, I can't remove it, and I can't continue with my daily order when it's there.

I think that in an age where 90%+ of the software on people's computers is completely free or with free alternatives, you should hold a 50$ (which ranks differently for different people on the scale of 'pricey') to higher standards than "oh well, I guess that might happen".
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10-11-2012 , 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Tired
Sorry, but while the idea might be valid the execution is bad joke.

After downloading and messing with the setting for 5 minutes I started playing 2NL to test the rules, and found out this program makes my client lag somewhat, which in itself is tilting me more than anything possible in poker.

now because I lost 6$ in 2NL I can't start my normal 5kNL session and I CAN'T SHUT OFF OR UNINSTALL THE PROGRAM FOR 6 HOURS... are you kidding me, really?

It's not that hard to imagine people will be using the trial for TRAILING, and should be allowed 1-2-3 first uses without limitations.

To anyone considering trying this software - don't.
The developers might be nice guys with good intentions, but this program is amateurish and would not pass anywhere ever as a real 'career' tool.
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Originally Posted by Tired
It's hard not to sound like a douchebag when criticizing something and I probably come off the wrong way, but I'm really being just honest.

My system is legitimately stripped down to nothing except poker utilities (HEM, TN), chrome, foobar and microsoft's security essentials running in the background.
It's a i7-2600K OC with 16GB G.Skill ram and the system (+poker) drive is a OCZ ssd.
The only thing I can imagine clashing with TiltBreaker is MSE and that is really TB's problem if it is indeed the reason.
The thing is I don't care why it's lagging and I don't want to care. It has never lagged with anything before and probably never will again.

Given that, the world trial does not equal "beta" - trial is simply trailing a program, unlike beta testing and being prepared for bugs or "thing generally not running smoothly".

It is hands down poor planning and thought process that led the developers of this application to not even include a warning that says "listen man, once you start a session with this program, you won't be able to install it for 6 [default] hours".
I mean, come on, I almost set the damn "day" value to 12 hours because I was like "that sounds reasonable".

At this moment the function of this software on my computer is identical to a virus.
It has nothing but negative influence on me, I can't remove it, and I can't continue with my daily order when it's there.

I think that in an age where 90%+ of the software on people's computers is completely free or with free alternatives, you should hold a 50$ (which ranks differently for different people on the scale of 'pricey') to higher standards than "oh well, I guess that might happen".

Hi Tired,

Sorry to hear you are having issues with TB. There is definitely a lag issue that is affecting a segment of users; we are working diligently to figure out what is causing that. Would you be so kind as to email your log files to support@tiltbreaker.com to help us identify the issue? To find your logs, right-click the TB icon in the system tray and select "open log directory".

As for the rest of your criticism, I totally understand your frustration, but the design obviously doesn't account for the user experiencing lag and therefore needing to uninstall during a session. If we remove the lag from your experience I think you would agree with the way the program is executed, no? Also, to say we are amateurish because we have a bug is a bit harsh imo. I don't think there is a single poker software that doesn't have some kind of outstanding bug. Not that that is an excuse, but it is very difficult to provide perfect support for 100% of all users given the multitude of poker site and user PC variables we deal with.

I like your idea of having a "trial mode" where you can bypass the normal restrictions, but my worry is that it is adding another layer to the overall process of the program. You have to remember that the majority of my market is non native English, so that additional layer could confuse users into thinking that they can always bypass things. I understand I can add warnings, etc, but we have to be realistic in that people do not read things, they just want the program to solve their problem instantly.

That said, I made a note yesterday to try to refine the first time user experience for situations such as these; e.g. a user downloads the trial while they are playing and doesn't understand why they can't add any rules. It is a difficult balancing act of providing proper protection for users, while still creating an intuitive process for first timers. I will continue to brainstorm on this though and gladly open it up to the forum for any opinions.

I sincerely apologize for the inconvenience of the lag issue, and I hope you'll give TB a second look when we get the lag issue sorted!

Best,
S!K
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10-11-2012 , 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ADK
Disagree, I think its very good and wish I got it sooner actually.
No lag for me and I am running a ridiculous amount of stuff at the same time. (12gb ram).

I also think the keyword in your post is "trial", you should have expected the possibility of running into some complications, computer issues, or things generally not running smoothly, which is one of the points behind a "trial".

Think it's pretty unfair to the developers by warning other people against it just because you got some computer lag from it and locked yourself out playing NL2, you didn't have to pay a thing for it afterall.
Thanks ADK

Greatly appreciate a paid user stepping in to show that the lag issue is atypical and not affecting everyone, and that you are very happy with the overall execution.

Much appreciated!
S!K
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10-11-2012 , 11:47 PM
I am another happy user of the software, have it now on second computer (the first one got broke and had to replace lol) and never had a problem.

I think if you trying than put temporarily to only kick you out for lets say 10 minutes after stop loss happened, once you tried and saw how it works and happy you can set rules for your regular stakes and what should be reasonable, and if you not happy than just uninstall after 10 minutes.
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10-12-2012 , 03:38 AM
pm sent

p.s i also have never experianced any problems with tb and support has always been top notch.
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10-13-2012 , 12:21 AM
Bought TB couple of weeks ago, uninstalled next day because of the lag.
Does it work in other rooms properly (didn't try) and can I play with TB in ipoker/party and without it in stars?

Thanks in advance.
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10-14-2012 , 09:24 AM
how is the tournament support coming along. i bought your software but since i only play husng its rather useless so far . you dont happen tournament have a Alpha or beta release with to Support you want tournament have "tested"?
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10-14-2012 , 12:03 PM
never experienced any lag either!

any news on party skins support ? i cant get tiltbreaker to block 100nl+ at acfpoker
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10-14-2012 , 12:28 PM
Sorry - autocorrection on phone - the sentence was meant to be like that:
you dont happen tou have a Alpha or beta release with tournament support that you like to have "tested"?
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10-15-2012 , 12:30 AM
Sorry for the delay here guys, I was at a family wedding over the weekend

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Originally Posted by Caturday
Bought TB couple of weeks ago, uninstalled next day because of the lag.
Does it work in other rooms properly (didn't try) and can I play with TB in ipoker/party and without it in stars?

Thanks in advance.
Hi Caturday,

We will be looking into the lag issue this week as a top priority. If you want to try TB on iPoker/Party, but not Stars, just remove your Stars screen name from the Hand History tab in TB.

Please let me know if you experience lag on iPoker/Party.


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Originally Posted by callme
how is the tournament support coming along. i bought your software but since i only play husng its rather useless so far . you dont happen tournament have a Alpha or beta release with to Support you want tournament have "tested"?
Hi Callme,

Just need to close out this lag issue and a few small things on Party and then we will be able to focus on tournament support for Stars.

The new Stars lobby and FTP relaunch could derail this a bit, but I am hopeful to have something testable by the end of November.


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Originally Posted by Saxophone
never experienced any lag either!

any news on party skins support ? i cant get tiltbreaker to block 100nl+ at acfpoker
Hi Saxo,

Thanks for the support!

Going to try to clean up the Party bugs this week, but it is dependent on how long the lag issue takes.

Thanks,
S!K
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10-15-2012 , 12:18 PM
Hello, have you started working on an Ongame version for this?
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10-15-2012 , 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by forthelulz60
Hello, have you started working on an Ongame version for this?
Hi Forthelulz,

Not yet. I'm probably not going to start on a new site until after Stars releases their new lobby, the FTP relaunch, and after Party releases their new software in Q1 2013.

In the mean time I'll be adding tournament support and a more advanced bankroll manager solution.

Thanks,
S!K
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10-16-2012 , 06:22 AM
Better to get your product to work than adding more stuff.

A general thought in light of all the problems, perhaps the first priority of this software is not to get this to work but to harvest!
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10-19-2012 , 08:45 AM
Hello, excuse for my English.
I wish to get your program, but I can pay only through WebMoney.
On a site Tiltbreaker.com as the partner the site PokerEnergy.ru is underlined.
It really and operates it for inhabitants of Ukraine, and in the further, after purchase, whether I can use your services in the sanction of any current problems?
Thanks.
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10-19-2012 , 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by defffo
Hello, excuse for my English.
I wish to get your program, but I can pay only through WebMoney.
On a site Tiltbreaker.com as the partner the site PokerEnergy.ru is underlined.
It really and operates it for inhabitants of Ukraine, and in the further, after purchase, whether I can use your services in the sanction of any current problems?
Thanks.
Hi Defffo,

I don't entirely understand what you are asking in the bolded part. Regardless, purchasing through PokerEnergy.ru is just as good as purchasing through me; you will get all the updates, support, etc.

Thanks for purchasing!
S!K
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10-20-2012 , 07:18 AM
does this work with lock poker (revolution)
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10-20-2012 , 07:34 AM
could you add the ability to instead of just having a lockout for the session or the day have it so a lockout could kick in after a certain target?

for example have a lockout of -5 buyins from peak but only have it kick in after like 5000 hands or somethig similar like 6 hours?

The reason being its alot easier to blow up and chase any runbad/losses at the end of a days session when you feel time is running out to get even also tiredness at the end of the day can make you give a tonne of money away in a short space of time out of no where.
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10-21-2012 , 09:35 PM
need a fully fonctunal party support
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10-22-2012 , 01:15 AM
Hello, whether I play limits $0.02 / $ 0.05. there is a sense to buy PRO the version for 49 $,
Or it is possible to buy SMALL for 29 $, and if necessary to pay in addition 20 $ or so it is impossible?
Thanks.
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10-22-2012 , 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by umakenocentsbro
does this work with lock poker (revolution)
Sorry, we don't support Revolution or Mege; the US sites are too risky to invest in atm.

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Originally Posted by reddev
could you add the ability to instead of just having a lockout for the session or the day have it so a lockout could kick in after a certain target?

for example have a lockout of -5 buyins from peak but only have it kick in after like 5000 hands or somethig similar like 6 hours?

The reason being its alot easier to blow up and chase any runbad/losses at the end of a days session when you feel time is running out to get even also tiredness at the end of the day can make you give a tonne of money away in a short space of time out of no where.
We kind of already have this in place with the Exception option under Hands and Time played. I'll have to think about it more on how I could modify it a bit.

The larger issue for me though is that I can't be continuously adding new variables to the UI. It will make sense to legacy users, but new users will get overwhelmed; I'm a bit afraid that they are already overwhelmed actually.

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Originally Posted by Saxophone
need a fully fonctunal party support
Working on Party this week.

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Originally Posted by defffo
Hello, whether I play limits $0.02 / $ 0.05. there is a sense to buy PRO the version for 49 $,
Or it is possible to buy SMALL for 29 $, and if necessary to pay in addition 20 $ or so it is impossible?
Thanks.
Hi Defffo,

Yes, if you are playing only .02/.05 then you should buy the Small Stakes version. Let me know if Holdem Manager doesn't have WebMoney and I will figure something out with one of my affiliates.

Thanks,
S!K
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10-22-2012 , 11:24 AM
I would like to buy the independent version (not built in in Holdem Manager).
And has not understood, if I shall pass to limits above NL25, I can get PRO version, having paid in addition 20 $, or it is better to buy it at once.
You as earlier have answered what to get it is possible through your partner PokerEnergy.ru.
Thanks.
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