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04-19-2010 , 05:44 PM
Sorry if this has already been mentioned before ITT, did a search and couldn't find anything on it.
Full tilt shortcuts used to have a feature that used to display the number of big blinds you have left in your stack, and this number could be color coded based on number of blinds. I think it would be a cool feature to be able to see how many big blinds you have for SNGs and how many M's you have for MTTs especially for players that play a lot of tables since it would help them make quicker and more accurate push fold decisions.
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04-19-2010 , 06:08 PM
after the update, the bet amount is no longer highlighted when the table is selected, even though i have "highlight bet amount" checked in FTP.
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04-19-2010 , 09:14 PM
anyone using the logitech performance mx with TN? I tried programming the forward and back buttons to certain keystrokes (f2, f3) and then setting said keystrokes in TN to check and call, but it just folds when i press either button. I have the right click button set to AA check/fold and it works fine, though sometimes i need to left click on the table first.

Anyone else run into this or have a setup that works? I am playing 08 sngs, but check/fold/call should still work, right? thanks.
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04-20-2010 , 12:25 AM
since the update the advance action hot key (check/fold) has not worked very well. I never had a problem with this before.
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04-20-2010 , 12:46 AM
after the update some fixed bets i had programmed with <ctrl>+"character" cause TNFT to crash, when i reprogrammed said fixed bets without pressing a character with the control key it solved the problem.
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04-20-2010 , 02:53 AM
I would just like to say this update is awesome and everything is running much faster / better, perfect , thanks !
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04-20-2010 , 06:39 AM
just downloaded this cannot wait to give it a go once FT is back up
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04-20-2010 , 11:27 AM
ARRRRRRRRGH new update driving me insane!! OK thanks for the auto reg fix, good job! But it's somehow changed so that when dragging tables around they snap back to where they just were cos a table pops up for action! It wud only do this before if u'd had a table change or a brand new tourney started up which wasn't too often so was more tolerable. Also not liking the new betting box going blank when I clik on it. When I type in a bet but dont execute and go to another table then come back, the bet I've typed has gone blank again.

Last edited by RagzToRiches; 04-20-2010 at 11:35 AM.
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04-20-2010 , 12:56 PM
The answer waitlist feature isnt working for me. It answers yes to the waitlist and then immediately removes me from my seat and a dialog box from FTP pops up telling me "you are not seated at this table". I initially thought it had something to do with the "auto handle buy in" because at soon as the buy in box popped up is when I got removed from my seat, but it still happens when I disable "handle buy ins".
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04-20-2010 , 01:28 PM
Wow, there are a lot of posts this morning If I miss anyone I apologize and please feel free to ask your question again.

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Originally Posted by Thrahl
Awesome update, no more messed up GUI when using 120 dpi fonts

Thank you sir.
Excellent glad to hear it

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Originally Posted by tripdeuces
Problem fixed. Thanks for the help
Glad you got things working.

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Originally Posted by TBadr
Sorry if this has already been mentioned before ITT, did a search and couldn't find anything on it.
Full tilt shortcuts used to have a feature that used to display the number of big blinds you have left in your stack, and this number could be color coded based on number of blinds. I think it would be a cool feature to be able to see how many big blinds you have for SNGs and how many M's you have for MTTs especially for players that play a lot of tables since it would help them make quicker and more accurate push fold decisions.
The PokerStars version of TableNinja has this feature and we may add it to the FTP version in the future. It was a big hit when we released it on Stars so its definitely something we'd like to add, but on the new FTP software it is a much harder feature to provide.

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Originally Posted by xcrack999
after the update, the bet amount is no longer highlighted when the table is selected, even though i have "highlight bet amount" checked in FTP.
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Originally Posted by 125Lute
since the update the advance action hot key (check/fold) has not worked very well. I never had a problem with this before.
Hmm, I haven't heard any other reports of this so I'm not sure what could be going on. Is it being unreliable when used in advance or when used on your turn. Can you please email support-ft@alxsoftware.com with a screen shot of a table where the hotkey did not work, and also send me your TNFTConfigAutoLoad file and your TNFTLog_(date) file from your TNFT install directory so that I can try to debug this?

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Originally Posted by TBadr
after the update some fixed bets i had programmed with <ctrl>+"character" cause TNFT to crash, when i reprogrammed said fixed bets without pressing a character with the control key it solved the problem.
What "character" specifically were you using? was the crash happening every time you used the hotkey or occasionally? Basically I need to try and reproduce the problem to start debugging it so if you could please tell me EXACTLY what you did when the crash occurred that would be extremely helpful.

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Originally Posted by BEERM4N
just downloaded this cannot wait to give it a go once FT is back up
Hope you like it

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Originally Posted by RagzToRiches
ARRRRRRRRGH new update driving me insane!! OK thanks for the auto reg fix, good job! But it's somehow changed so that when dragging tables around they snap back to where they just were cos a table pops up for action! It wud only do this before if u'd had a table change or a brand new tourney started up which wasn't too often so was more tolerable. Also not liking the new betting box going blank when I clik on it. When I type in a bet but dont execute and go to another table then come back, the bet I've typed has gone blank again.
Hmm, I'm a bit puzzled about the dragging issue because as far as I knew what you're describing is the way it always has been. I'm not sure how this wasn't happening to you before with 1.0.60.0 unless you were dragging tables where it was already your turn. You might be able to use the STA hotkeys to move your tables in some cases, it would both be much faster and it would avoid this issue.

Regarding the bet box issue, it sounds like you are stacking/cascading/overlapping in a non-aero theme or on XP (generally not recommended) is this correct? The bet box should only go blank if you have a default bet set to 0. If you just check the disable default bets checkbox on the general tab TN will just leave the min bet in the bet box which I believe is what you want.

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Originally Posted by Thrahl
The answer waitlist feature isnt working for me. It answers yes to the waitlist and then immediately removes me from my seat and a dialog box from FTP pops up telling me "you are not seated at this table". I initially thought it had something to do with the "auto handle buy in" because at soon as the buy in box popped up is when I got removed from my seat, but it still happens when I disable "handle buy ins".
Hmm, I haven't heard any other reports of this either and I cannot reproduce this problem. Does leaving on the handle buy in popup feature but disabling the "Automatically take a seat" feature fix the problem?

Thanks guys,

Tarath
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04-20-2010 , 01:35 PM
Also, I know there were one or two mentions of issues with focus being sent to the bet box and slider bar issues. I believe this was a bug in FTP that they hopefully fixed this morning.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=470

Its been a bit challenging for us to track down problems because FTP has released 4 updates in the last 5 days, fixing some of the issues that have been reported to us regarding TNFT.

Hopefully Full Tilt will get things stable on their end soon.

Thanks guys,

Tarath
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04-20-2010 , 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by tarath
What "character" specifically were you using? was the crash happening every time you used the hotkey or occasionally? Basically I need to try and reproduce the problem to start debugging it so if you could please tell me EXACTLY what you did when the crash occurred that would be extremely helpful.
Sure thing, so under the "fixed bets" tab, looking at the "big blind bets" section, I have programmed 2.5x bet with <ctrl>+X and 2.3x bet with <ctrl>+Z
This used to work finre pre update but last night as soon as I do a control x or control z the bet is displayed in the box but keeps blinking repetitively as if it were stuck in a loop and eventually causes the program to crash after a couple seconds. I was able to workaround this by programming those bets with just the x and z characters and excluding the control key. Fwiw the "automatically click the button" checkbox is left uncheck.
Let me know if you need any additional info.

PS: I know i'm being pushy but it would be reeeeeeaallly cool if you could implement the "display number of big blinds in your stack for SNGs and number of M's for MTTs

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04-20-2010 , 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by wcaseyb
anyone using the logitech performance mx with TN? I tried programming the forward and back buttons to certain keystrokes (f2, f3) and then setting said keystrokes in TN to check and call, but it just folds when i press either button. I have the right click button set to AA check/fold and it works fine, though sometimes i need to left click on the table first.

Anyone else run into this or have a setup that works? I am playing 08 sngs, but check/fold/call should still work, right? thanks.
Tarath, thanks so much for this program. I will be first in line to pay when you release that version. Any tips on using my mouse with TN? I realize that I am playing pot limit sngs, but should the check, call, fold options still work if i set it up like i stated above? Thanks so much again.
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04-20-2010 , 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by TBadr
Sure thing, so under the "fixed bets" tab, looking at the "big blind bets" section, I have programmed 2.5x bet with <ctrl>+X and 2.3x bet with <ctrl>+Z
This used to work finre pre update but last night as soon as I do a control x or control z the bet is displayed in the box but keeps blinking repetitively as if it were stuck in a loop and eventually causes the program to crash after a couple seconds. I was able to workaround this by programming those bets with just the x and z characters and excluding the control key. Fwiw the "automatically click the button" checkbox is left uncheck.
Let me know if you need any additional info.

PS: I know i'm being pushy but it would be reeeeeeaallly cool if you could implement the "display number of big blinds in your stack for SNGs and number of M's for MTTs
I can't seem to reproduce this with those exact settings. Could you email support-ft@alxsoftware.com with your TNFTConfigAutoload file and your TNLog_(date) file with your configuration set up such that TNFT crashes? The files are both in your TNFT install directory (C:\Program Files\TableNinjaFT).

Regarding the BB display it definitely is on our wish list but it won't come until we've got everything polished with the current version.

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Originally Posted by wcaseyb
Tarath, thanks so much for this program. I will be first in line to pay when you release that version. Any tips on using my mouse with TN? I realize that I am playing pot limit sngs, but should the check, call, fold options still work if i set it up like i stated above? Thanks so much again.
Glad you like the program

What you state above definitely should work (afaik everything except the bet sizing should work in pot limut) although I don't think you should need to program the back and forward buttons (TNFT should recognize these on its own).

When a hotkey is used it will flicker red. Can you confirm that when you press the button you've mapped to the check hotkey that the check hotkey box flickers red, and the same for the call hotkey?

Are you using a custom table mod of any kind?

Thanks guys,

Tarath
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04-20-2010 , 03:31 PM
I can certainly do that
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04-20-2010 , 06:11 PM
thanks for the reply. the reason i went the route i did was because TN doesn't allow me to use the forward/back/zoom options directly. It does let me use the right click and the middle wheel button. When I program the forward/back button to represent a key and program that key into TN, it flashe when pressed, but instead of checking, calling, etc. it just folds.

I am using table mods. I have various cards, all from the FT mods thread here, and my I have replaced the table files (marble, stainless, etc.) with simpler table images for multitabling purposes. Could this be the problem? If so, should I just try different mods until one works? Thanks so much.

p.s. eta on pot limit version?
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04-20-2010 , 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by wcaseyb
thanks for the reply. the reason i went the route i did was because TN doesn't allow me to use the forward/back/zoom options directly. It does let me use the right click and the middle wheel button. When I program the forward/back button to represent a key and program that key into TN, it flashe when pressed, but instead of checking, calling, etc. it just folds.

I am using table mods. I have various cards, all from the FT mods thread here, and my I have replaced the table files (marble, stainless, etc.) with simpler table images for multitabling purposes. Could this be the problem? If so, should I just try different mods until one works? Thanks so much.

p.s. eta on pot limit version?
fixed it by changing the fold/call/raise buttons back to default. will any modified ones work? is the only way to know to try them out? thanks again.

also, any idea when pot limit TN may be coming?
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04-21-2010 , 07:45 AM
nice update i was w8 for it so long

can you add sub option for Automatically click time bank like click early/late?
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04-21-2010 , 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by wcaseyb
fixed it by changing the fold/call/raise buttons back to default. will any modified ones work? is the only way to know to try them out? thanks again.

also, any idea when pot limit TN may be coming?
It is unlikely that modded buttons will work with the smart action hotkeys. You can however continue to use the click buttons by location hotkeys with mods and that should work smoothly.

Unfortunately we've hit some roadblocks with PLO support and it probably isn't coming anytime soon, because of some technical difficulties that we are trying to work out with FTP, I'm sorry.

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Originally Posted by presti
nice update i was w8 for it so long

can you add sub option for Automatically click time bank like click early/late?
Glad you like the update.

Unfortunately we have no plans to make an early/late time bank option as this would involve some major changes to the program that might make the rest of the program less reliable.

Thanks guys,

Tarath
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04-21-2010 , 11:35 AM
I'm going to be traveling for the next 10 days and while I will still be working on TableNinja and TableNinjaFT every day, I may not always be able to post on the forums and answer questions quickly.

Because of this I've asked 8=~Fool~=8 to help me out by managing the TableNinja/TableNinjaFT 2+2 threads while I'm on the road. Starting tomorrow morning he'll be answering all the questions on this thread until I return home.

Fool does a large portion of the technical support for TableNinjaFT and helps run the TableNinja forums so he's definitely an expert on the program and I'm sure he'll be able to answer any questions you might have.

Thanks guys,

Tarath
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04-21-2010 , 12:23 PM
We've decided that the current feature set is going to be the feature set we will end the beta with. We definitely plan to continue to add new features after we launch the program commercially, but for the remainder of the beta period rather than adding any new features we plan to focus 100% on polishing the existing feature set.

To help us track down any remaining bugs and get as many of them fixed as possible in the next update we need you guys to report any outstanding issues you have with TableNinjaFT. Even if it is a minor issue that only happens once every thousand hands we'd like to hear about it. Even if you've already mentioned your problem in a previous version I'd like to hear about it again and we'll take a second crack at fixing the issue.

To report a bug please follow the instructions on this thread: http://tnforums.tableninja.com/showthread.php?t=939

Please follow the instructions on the thread carefully as it will really help us keep track of everything.

Thanks guys,

Tarath
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04-21-2010 , 02:50 PM
Thanks again for getting the fixes out so quickly. I almost have the program working to perfection. The issue I was having with the lobby popping up was an oversight on my end. I was unaware of the FTP option "Bring lobby to front". Once I unchecked this it worked fine

My most major issue is the Auto Click Timebank is no longer working. This was working fine until the FTP update. The never sit out feature is in fact working.

Next, would it be possible for you to add either a minimize lobby after register or just close the lobby immediately after register? At the present, when registering for a set of sit and gos: I would click register, TN would do its work and click, but then leave the Tourny Lobby open until it starts and then closes. This causes me to have to manually minimize the window involving mouse clicks.

Lastly, Could you or someone else explain the benefits of the Smart Action Hotkeys. I don't really see the difference off hand.

Thank you.

Lucy
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04-21-2010 , 11:48 PM
i dont know what the deal is... 2 days ago it didnt work for me. yesterday it was fine. now today again it wont open and i get the message "tableninjaft has encountered a problem and needs to close. we are sorry for the inconvenience" then i can either click send error report or dont send... ive rebooted...re-installed... closed FTP, closed HEM, etc... any advice...?
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04-22-2010 , 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by lucydeucy
Thanks again for getting the fixes out so quickly. I almost have the program working to perfection. The issue I was having with the lobby popping up was an oversight on my end. I was unaware of the FTP option "Bring lobby to front". Once I unchecked this it worked fine

My most major issue is the Auto Click Timebank is no longer working. This was working fine until the FTP update. The never sit out feature is in fact working.

Next, would it be possible for you to add either a minimize lobby after register or just close the lobby immediately after register? At the present, when registering for a set of sit and gos: I would click register, TN would do its work and click, but then leave the Tourny Lobby open until it starts and then closes. This causes me to have to manually minimize the window involving mouse clicks.

Lastly, Could you or someone else explain the benefits of the Smart Action Hotkeys. I don't really see the difference off hand.

Thank you.

Lucy

First try disabling frames and see if that resolves the time-bank issue. Also please either make a new thread at http://tnforums.tableninja.com/index.php or PM me your contact info. I'll go over your logs and see whats causing the problem.

As for the lobby this is an excellent suggestion. We are already able to call up the lobby with a hot-key. I'm sure a future release will include the ability to dismiss it with a hot-key. Smart action hot-keys are beneficial as they prevent or at least drastically reduce the chance of mis-clicks. In the past TableNinjaFT targeted a location on your screen. This allowed the user to force unintended uses such as clicking anything in the target region. The new "Smart Action Hot-keys" actually check to make sure the fold command is being sent to a fold button.


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Originally Posted by Cap_Of_Water
i dont know what the deal is... 2 days ago it didnt work for me. yesterday it was fine. now today again it wont open and i get the message "tableninjaft has encountered a problem and needs to close. we are sorry for the inconvenience" then i can either click send error report or dont send... ive rebooted...re-installed... closed FTP, closed HEM, etc... any advice...?

It sounds like your copy of TableNinjaFT might have become corrupted somehow. First close TableNinjaFT. Then download this tool from Microsoft, http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290301, and use it to remove TableNinjaFT. Now you should be able to reinstall the newest version from http://tableninja.com/tnft/downloads.php


Fool
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04-23-2010 , 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Thrahl
The answer waitlist feature isnt working for me. It answers yes to the waitlist and then immediately removes me from my seat and a dialog box from FTP pops up telling me "you are not seated at this table". I initially thought it had something to do with the "auto handle buy in" because at soon as the buy in box popped up is when I got removed from my seat, but it still happens when I disable "handle buy ins".
Have the same issue and using windows 7. Does not seem to be the 'auto handle buy in'. Have tried with the 'automatically take a seat' both checked and unchecked and still have the problem. At times it seems to work when i do not have the 'max tables' set, but as soon as the max is checked it no longer works. Even with it unchecked it does not work all the time.
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