The best place to discuss the creation of custom stats the PokerTracker forums, this topic is outside the scope of the PT4 thread on 2+2. Thanks for contributing though!

I'm afraid we do not understand what you are suggesting. We should note that PokerTracker 4 supports 18 different poker sites and networks for live import, any features we add must work for each network. Any development for a specific site or network is best suited for a third party developer add-on to PokerTracker 4.

You can do that currently through notes, marking as buddies, color coding, and soon you will also be able to add tags. Admittedly none of these are marked for current session play only, but you can for example create a note that tells you which day the special tag/note etc was created . The demand for current session-only notes does not currently exist, but it is an idea we will consider for the future. Thanks for the suggestion!

Because my english is bad, ok I'm gonna try again...
I guess you could use PT4 to take notes on your opponents, probably in order to access to them you need to click on the HUD. I suggested a feature that allows us to open, in a seleted area, the note tab.
I'm playing hu so I got only one opponent on my table and for me, should be pretty useful to have it.
So let's say I'd like to have the note tab on the left of my opponents stats, well, instead open the note tab, grab it every time and place it, I can do once and save its position, the next time I launch the HUD, PT4 could remember it saving a lot of time

I removed a database without realising that it doesn't delete the database. I can't find it in PGAdminIII. How do I delete a PT4 database after removing it?

2 Q's.............

1) On a specific HUD profile I created a POPUP group. Then I went to a different HUD profile and wanted to use the same popup but it does not show as an option. Do I have to export it from one Hud profile and import it to another? Why wouldn't puop-up groups be universal for use across all hud profiles?

2) I see when I right click on the hud I can set villain as a "buddy".....where is this used anywhere in the program? I can't seem to find any actual use for this.

one more Q....

Looking for a few specific stats that I can't seem to find. Do they exist? If so where?

1) Bet/Fold.....by street looking to see the % of times villain bet and then folded to a raise.
2) W$SD when C/R a given street...

Thanks.

You must export the Popup and import it into the new profile. Popups are not universal, they are exclusive to just one HUD Profile, it is more logical that way. Imagine if you had 10 HUD profiles and each HUD profile had a different iteration of a preflop popup, it would be pretty confusing trying to figure out which popup you needed if they were all jumbled together... that is why we keep popups uniquely tied to their respective profile - it is much easier to work this way.

When you set an opponent as buddy, you can find that buddy using TableTracker.

If we understand you correctly, your asking if the Notes window can open to the last position saved, is that correct? This might work in your specific setup, but for the majority of players it would create too much confusion at the table. Tables move, windows switch back and forth between screens - your proposal would create chaos for too many players I am afraid, therefore we find it best to open the notes window right next to the selected player - and then allow the player to relocate the window as needed. On the bright side, it is not hard to open up the note window and move it to move the window, and we save the size of the window for your convenience.

If you cannot find the database in PGAdmin, then the database must have been deleted... is it possible that you have more than one instance of PostgreSQL running? That is the only thing I could think of that may keep you from finding the database in PGAdmin.

For bet/fold there is a whole bunch of stats, just search for Fold to Raise After - you have so many options to choose from.



As for WSD after CR on any street (we no longer use the dollar sign in this stat name due to PokerTracker's robust currency management system), we did not include it by default because it is rarely a stat you need in a HUD or report. Instead we recommend using a custom My Report which includes WSD as a stat, then filter to see if that player check raised on any street. If you are one of the rare people who need this stat in a HUD, then please post in our Custom Stats forum at the PokerTracker website - we will be happy to help guide you create the stat from scratch. Or if you need help creating a custom report, feel free to ask right here!

- TT

Thanks for the answer on the popups. Makes sense.

On Bet/Fold I looked at the options and none of the them are simply bet and then folded to a raise...as a limit player this is a useful item to have in the hud.

The same goes for winning at showdown after C/R a street. They are both something I had in my hud in hem and would like to be able to recreate. i will play with the custom stats and see if I can figure out how to create them.

I really hope you will implement this (current session-only notes). I'm playing PLO and it really needed.

Another example:
I am playing LAG session and cbet alot. I been won many small pot at a tight table by open raising and cbet. At current hand, I open raise from BU with garbage, SB (a very tight player) call. Flop 552 a very dry board at PLO and not hit SB range, SB check. I cbet, SB raise, I fold.
My image suddenly broke and I must thighten up a lot AT THIS TABLE. Thus I need to mark this table (for this session only)

What about playing fewer tables?

No I definitely don't have another instance of PostgreSQL running.

If you need a hand getting started with your stats please start a new thread in the forum on the PokerTracker website where we'll be able to help you more directly.

I agree with TT - If the database isn't listed in PGAdmin then it has most likely been deleted rather than removed. One other way to check is to click New in Database Management and then 'Browse Databases' - that will allow you to reconnect to any PT4 databases that PT4 doesn't currently know about.

-- WhiteRider

This is outside of the normal support advice that we would give to PokerTracker users, but Cangurino has got a good point. When I do something that may hurt my image at a table, then I have no problems remembering how my image has been affected. I don't need to write a note, unless I am playing too many tables, at which point the quality of my play is not as good. I have discovered that if this occurs, then it is time for me to lower my table count. I have probably bitten off more than I chew (an American expression - it means I am playing on more tables than I can play at optimally). Cangurino's advice is actually good, you may find that lowering your table count improves the quality of your play, and in turn your win rate may increase. PokerTracker is the ultimate automated note taking system, but notes work best when the human brain can augment the notes (stats) collected by PokerTracker. Always make sure that your brain is never at a disadvantage!

Good luck, I hope this little bit of playing advice helps!

- TT

One other thing to add to WhiteRider's post, once PT4 is released commercially we will have a warehouse of new stats which you can download to add to your HUDs or reports - without the need to create the custom stats on your own. Only PokerTracker provides this great resource, it allows you to make sure PokerTracker fits within your workflow, rather than forcing yourself to fit into the workflow designed by PokerTracker. Pretty cool, yes?

- TT

loving beta so far. Tried searching around a bit but when I minimize the table size (tiling 12 tables on 1 screen) the HUD gets too fine to read properly. Is adjusting the font size and then saving it for different profiles (tiling cash, stacking turbos, etc) the only way to be able to have the font size stay the same size, or be scalable at all? I tried "allow vector scaling" or something in options but don't think it did the trick.

If you turn "allow vector scaling" OFF then the font size will not scale with your tables, but if you do that you'll probably still need separate profiles if you sometimes play with very small tables and sometimes with bigger tables.
You can change the font size for all stats in a profile at once if you select all stats in the profile by clicking the first and then shift-clicking the last stat in the list towards the top right, next to Properties.

--WhiteRider

I want to use the Default Pop Up for my own custom HUD. How do I copy those Pop Up groups into my own HUD? Should I re-import them? If yeh where do I find them?

Ok the 6 million dollar question - I'm sure it's been asked already on this thread but soz I'm not reading over 78 pages (most of which will be of little interest to me) how is this going to compare with HM2?

I'm a HM2 user, before that I was a HM user and before that I was PT2 user. So basically HM won me over - sorry but as a customer my dollars go to the product I like best... anyway competition is good and is vital imo to drive both you and the HM guys forward. I hope both of you continue to be successful.

Anyway I think HM2 is potentially great from the bits I've looked at but it's still very buggy and their support seems to be tied up chasing their tails so it's got me thinking to look to see what's on offer elsewhere -so a chance for PokerTracker to win a former customer back perhaps... so with that is PT4 going to match and surpass HM2 when it's ready and if so how?

btw imo visually HM2 is so much more appealing than PT3 - I know that could be said to be superficial but I think it's important in the overall user experience and from the vids of PT4 I've looked at it i get the impression that Pt4 will still be a long way behind visually in comparison to HM2. Any thoughts about getting a graphics designer on board?

Hope you won't take offence at these remarks/criticisms - but I imagine getting feedback from past customers you lost to the competition should be important to you as well as from dedicated Pt fans.

scaling, HUD, HUD seating

firstly, with regards to scaling - there seems to be a threshold tolerance whereby the last hand/showdown + equity HUD becomes (fairly) unreadable at small table-sizes.

this seems to occur regardless of vector scaling.
is this normal behaviour or am I being a *****?

Scaling at ~60% of default Stars table-size

secondly, for the HUD layout feature to chose showdown card info display location: please can you add 'player 1' ~ 'player n' labels? I'm not seeing any tooltips or suchlike to distinguish.

Ta. iG

We don't care too much about our competitors, that is the honest truth. PokerTracker produces a solution, HEM produces a solution... it is up to you as a player to choose which solution you prefer. Both applications provide a free trial (PokerTracker's free trial is currently the beta), so you are empowered to make the best decision for yourself.

I guess you can say that we do take some small amount of offense, but not for the reasons you might assume. PokerTracker is the world's largest poker software product, we have been in business for 10 years providing tools for players to succeed. PokerTracker created this segment of the industry, created nearly all the commonly used stats by players today (including the acronyms for the stats), and also created the first commercially viable HUD. Our goal is to have our software stand on it's own, and be viewed for it's own strengths and weaknesses rather than be compared to our competitors - and I am fairly sure that our competitors feel the same way. We want people to use PokerTracker 4 because they love our software, not because they dislike HM2... we work hard to win the loyalty of our users by giving them the best poker workflow we can realistically deliver. Additionally please keep in mind that HM2 has been released commercially for almost 1/2 year while PokerTracker 4 is still in development; any comparisons at this stage are unfair because nobody has seen our complete development vision yet - we have witheld some features intentionally for commercial release to assure we maintain our competitive edge. Your best best is to get ahold of the PokerTracker 4 beta and give it a spin to see where we currently stand on your own... our goal is to make you happy, I hope we achieve that goal!

I sugest you do go back and read some of the pages in this thread, you might be surprised to find that the majority of posters are not long time PokerTracker fans - this thread is filled with new PokerTracker converts and people who used our software years ago and then switched (or have recently switched from HEM to PT3 in preparation for PT4). The long time PT3 fans don't "need" this thread, they already know our software for the most part, perhaps that is why this thread is heavily dominated by new PT4 users- its impossible to know for sure, but I'll let you be the judge of that.

PS: You mentioned the interface of PT4 is graphically behind, I think you will find that most people in this thread will disagree with you. Rather than explain why, I'll let others elaborate, we think it's best that you hear the opinions of other users rather than our marketing spin.

- TT

I'm still really really missing the Kraada advanced HUD. There was so much data on that HUD that was available before looking at a popup.

With the current HUD it takes way too many clicks to get to critical data (e.g. ATS related stats) that are buried 2 popups deep that were available at the top level in the advanced HUD.

P.S. I really hope you got a good description of my "stat <x> colored by <y> with palette profile <z>" into your TODO list. I brought it up and had some correspondence with kraada about it but you ignored it the first time around. In short, my suggestion was to add UI to make doing the "x colored by y" thing less painful. In PT3 it is terribly tedious to enter the exact same 10 colors (gotta remember what they are) and stat ranges (0-10%, 10-20%, ... 90-100%) when I want them to all be identical.

bump

Can you please post a screen capture of your screen with the avg # of tables you normally play at, with the tables all set to the size you normally play at (60%). Also let us know the screen resolution. We can give you better advice if we visually see where you are. Lets find a solution for you!

Click the PT4 HUD Icon, and select Configure Mucked Cards. This will allow you to determine where to place each seat's mucked cards on the table - remember to Save your Layout after to be sure the mucked cards are always in the same position for this table type going forward.

We designed PokerTracker 4 for you to be able to customize your own playing experience. If you don't like the way the HUD looks then change it, you are empowered to work the way you want to, not the way we designed. The default HUDs are only examples, we hope that the PokerTracker community starts uploading lots of alternative HUDs as soon as we open up the Download Warehouse.

As for your specific issue with Attempt to Steal stats, why not create a new ATS -only popup and then assign it to the PFR stat? In the screen capture below I have done exactly what you are asking for, while developing a new HUD Profile which I have called "Short". I have created dedicated popups for Steal and 3Bet+ stats which are assigned to individual stats in the HUD Table Group. The Pokertracker 4 HUD Profile Editor is tremendously flexible, take advantage of it!

As for the Kradda Profile which was popular in PT3, that was a free download from our HUD repository. It did not ship with PT3, it is an alternate solution. Kraada has expressed that he wants to do the same with PT4 eventually, but right now he is busy working on other parts of PT4 - he will get to this in due time.

We already answered this question in an earlier post, export the Popup from the default HUD Profile, and import the Popup into the new HUD Profile. Easy!

- TT

Also for the record, my HUD should convert properly - I have tested the conversion on it occasionally. Please let me know personally if you have any trouble with it - and I'll be happy to help.

Thanks for your answers to my questions PokerTracker. I'll try to look through this thread somewhat more then. Is the PT4 beta only available to Pt3 people btw as I can't locate a download link to it at the minute?