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Originally Posted by Style129
this has the same inaccuracy as the HEM2 filter vs player.
For example the villain sits in the SB and folds his hand. I however win 60bb off of the guy in the CO. Pokertracker Hero vs Villain then says i won 60$ from the filtered Villain in the SB who just folded his hand preflop
its just not possible to work with this. I cant believe theres no software out there that can do this.
First we must clarify that this is not a vs player filter, it is a report. vs player filters are only possible using complicated SQL expression filters in PokerTracker 4, this is by design because vs player filtering can absolutely cripple the SQL server. Maybe someday in the future we will be able to filter to a specific player, for now the Hero vs Villain report is the best solution.
Secondly we disagree, the report is accurate based on how we designed the report to work. The report is supposed to show all hands played where the opponent contributed to the pot in the list of hands below, that is the primary functionality. The secondary functionality is to show your winnings and losses in the hands listed below; it is not designed to show how much you won or lost vs the opponent... it only shows the total winnings from the hands.
With that said, we admit that there has long been some debate about how this report should work, there are positives and negatives to each possibile direction. Using our current method of reporting, say we have two hands on a player in our database, this player only posted in the blinds. In both of these two hands the player folded their blinds, but both times we won a big pot from another player at the table. My Gross Won shows us as winning large pot and they are attributed to the player in the blinds, as well as anyone else who contributed to the pot - because this is a hand centric report.
An option to consider would be to removing all hands where the player contributed to the pot by posting a blind, but then folded the blind.. this way only spots where the player contributed to a VIP would be listed in the report... but there is a downside to this method, there is the issue of hands where the button raised and the blinds folded... we won off the blinds in that spot, and then these hands would not be included.
Another option we have considered would include the hands as we currently do, but the size of the winnings should be based on how much that player contributed . . . we won small amounts from that player but we won big amounts from others. The downside to this scenario is twofold - (1) It would take much more time for the report to render, probably so slow that this would become the slowest report in PT4. (2) Many players use this report to find big post they played while an opponent they remember was at the table, this would take away that method of finding hands.
We are open to new suggestions, feel free to contribute your ideas... if an idea is proposed that is well balanced that can benefit all players then it is something we will surely consider.
Thnx!
- TT
