For the "ev rescaled" in the range explorer, how exactly are the EVs scaled?

It's rescaled in a way that 100 = pot size to make it easier to compare with equity.

been trying to update to the latest version but the autodownloader fails everytime . im still on 1.5.2

Heya, i currently use Pio on my Mac thru parallels. Thinking of buying a surface pro tho and wondering what specs id need to run pio?

The options are:
processor: intel core M, i5, or i7
memory: 4GB, 8GB, or 16GB
storage: 128GB, 256GB, 512GB, or 1TB

What would i need to run pio nicely?

Thanks!

Please make sure to read the quick start guide and especially watch the 4 minutes installation video linked at the top, here:

http://piosolver.myshopify.com/pages/quick-start-guide

I also show how to use the updater to get the newest version here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PEmsGaGLvk

(see video description, it's the first point in that video).

I am not sure what CPUs surface offers right now but last time I checked it was only dual core CPUs. Those are not suitable for quick solving. If you want to go with a laptop you need something with real i5 or i7 CPUs. Those are usually 47xx 48xx HQ series.

Hi guys.
I bought my PioSolver's licence one week ago and today when I tryied install, the program shows this message:
https://gyazo.com/66f739742f017f2bfc9b5e05f142f7b8
But this file it is in my folder.
Can someone help me?
Sorry about my poor english btw...

Mine still doesn't update to 1.9.1 (pio basic)

Hey, I watched your video on preflop, and I'm trying to mimic what you do but I'm stuck at the point where it asks me to select flop subset. I don't see a folder with any. Do I download those, or do I create them somehow?

I am interested in choosing subset of flops to study the game. And yes I have read this:
http://piosolver.myshopify.com/blogs...the-whole-game
And also check Tipton's subset. But I mean about something else. I am not interested in estimating preflop EV (for this purpose we already have so many subsets bulid in PIO). I am interested in study flops one after another. So wants paired, monotone, flushdraws, rainbows, etc. Something like in Tipton's but there we have duplicates f.e. KcAhQs and AcKhQs = AKQr. I dont have to study both to get flop strategy. I am going for holidays and want to run some big trees (many sizings, donkbets, etc.) in pio for many flops in this time. Anybody have some kind of this subset or some from link above would be good enough? For 184 I got f.e. 4s4dJc and 4s4dQc which should be played similar. Maybe this 74 subset? Any suggestions?

You've probably moved PioViewer.exe from the folder. Please don't do that (you can make a shortcut to the desktop if you want). If you have problems it's the best to run the updater again with "force update" checkbox so all the files are going to be in your folder again.

Please watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PEmsGaGLvk (first part, starting at 0:26)

In case it still doesn't work for you drop us an email with your key and I will check what's going on.
They are located in preflop_subsets folder. Please notice that that the preflop solver is only available in the edge version.
We can make preflop subsets available for download if there is need although you will only be able to use them for estimation of the tree size with basic/pro version.

This is a question we get very often and we feel we are not qualified to answer. The best subset for studying is a task for experienced strong player or coach. If someone developed something along the lines they are welcome to post in this thread but we are very unlikely to be able to help as we don't want to make judgement calls involved (determining what is and what isn't worthwhile for studying in games of today).

What does Tools -> Refresh tree in browser do? (And why does it take me back to tree building and calculation if it's purpose is to refresh the browser?) I originally guessed that it was to refresh the browser while in the middle of calculations to see how strategies are evolving as they approach the Nash equilibrium, but if it just takes me back to tree building and calculation, and when I go back to the browser, it's the default empty view that shows nothing (just grey).

(By the way, as a suggestion, it might be good to have the strategy view as the default in the browser rather than showing nothing being the default.)

It's not useful for everyday use. The reason it was added is that it's possible to call some solver commands from the console and then the viewer might not realize the tree changed and start producing errors. It's only useful if you are calling solver commands directly and do advanced stuff there.

You can do that by clicking on a selected node again or going back and forth in the tree while the solver is working (with auto-refresh checkbox ticked).

You can change what happens after loading the tree: Tools->Configuraiton->Behavior->Default action after load tree

Couple of questions, if I may trouble you for some answers.

1. In a lot of todays game you see alot of 25-30% Cbets.(often with range advantage) I read somewhere there was a EV difference between betsizes. But if you bet smaller shouldn't just the caller widen his calling range? and vice versa. Then it seems to not matter. Or what is the theory behind a "good betsize"

2. Is the postflop solver useful with smaller stacks aswell. Say 20bb.
Lots of the answers in these stackdepths seems to be raise/fold.

Thanks for all the hard work you have done.

a) my dropbox link stopped workin
b) i m running 1.9.0.0 and somehow "check if called previous street" is missing from treebuilding tab? Oo

This is one way the games changed because of the solver. It turns out on many board textures a small bet is preferred and even if it's not the EV difference is very small. It's something unusual (at least it was when it started) so people were (and probably still are) making a lot of mistakes against those bets.

They are usually pretty small but it's true that on some boards a very small bet or a very big bet are significantly better than others.

The caller is going to adjust of course but still it may turn out that one bet sizing strategy results in better overall EV than the other. There are a lot of draws and possible runouts in Holdem. There is nothing strange about the fact that one bet size setups more profitable situations on turns/rivers than the other. Again, those difference are in general small when overall EV is concerned so it's probably the best to focus on a strategy that is the most difficult to deal with for your opponents (for example if they played vs 2/3 and 3/4 pot bets their whole life they are very unlikely to play correctly against 30% bets).

You can say it's even more useful as those trees are smaller so they are faster to solve and you can add more bet sizes/options to the tree and still get a very good solution reasonably fast.

I am not sure if that's true. When I solved some 20bb trees I've seen a lot of calling there as well. Anyway, you can just run those trees and see what's optimal

They don't stop working
Maybe you are using the old one (they've changed around July 2015 and are the same since then). If the new one really stopped working please drop us an email with your key/registered email and I am going to send it to you again.

[QUOTE]b) i m running 1.9.0.0 and somehow "check if called previous street" is missing from treebuilding tab? Oo [/QUOTE

Yes, it's not needed anymore as now there is separate field for donk bet size so if you want to omit the donk bet just leave it empty.

i was indeed using the old one as the latest update deleted my config

when i examinate line c/r flop vs pfr, facing flop 3b and calling it, donkbet is always there ott, dont tell me this is a feature? leaving donkbet field blank ofc

Could you please attach the config? ("copy to clipboard" button and then paste to pastebin or somewhere and link here). Please also attach the line where the bet is included but shouldn't be. It works as expected on my computer so I am unable to tell what the problem is from your description alone.

Hey guys was wondering if the current randomiser in preflop charts for Generating series of images is the best that can possibly be?

I mean that when f.e. i have 20 combos in the original chart that bets 10% and i want 10 images to create, there is always in the first image all of those hands bets 100% and 0% at others.

I mean, i want that that one combo is 100% bet in one random image but not that all of those are 100% in first image. Instead would be awesome if we can get that like 2 combos of those 20 are 100% bets spread on all images so that every image would have 2 of those 20 combos as a bet or something similar.

Thanks!

http://pastebin.com/8sUC8aUB

I've tried using "generate script" for multiple flops but something is wrong because solver finish too fast. I made sure that accuracy reached is 0.35 or 3600 seconds like in FAQ video. I made everything same, but solver finish in ~20 seconds..

What could be the problem?

That's the idea. You can put them in some program which displays one of them when clicked (using a random picture) and you know which action should be taken to randomize perfectly.

We may consider this but we need a use case. If you are using it for randomizing your play then it doesn't matter if all the bets are in one image or in separate images as the probabilities check out. If you can think of a use case for which it's not enough feel free to share it.

The reason the bet is included in the check-bet-raise-3bet-call-? line is that you have "use only one bet size if there was a raise before" checkbox which automatically inserts tha bet size everywhere in lines where there was a raise before.

I am not sure if it's a bug or feature but there is an easy work-around: just insert "check, bet, raise, raise, call, bet" (without quotes) in the Remove lines form in the tree building and that particular bet will be removed from the tree.

It's hard to guess. Here are two things you can do:

1)follow this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhG_YsEvfwU (question number 6) exactly; preferably using a simple config so you can get your results fast and verify they are what you want them to be

2)generate the script again and before running it:
-make a screenshot from your script generation window
-copy paste the script itself and link here (paste to pastebin)

It's likely you have missed some step from the video if I had to guess.

thx for clarification, the bet wasnt there in previous versions thou

It's true. Sometimes it's hard to keep 100% backward compatibility when changing the interface. The new one is more powerful because you can both specify different sizes for donk bets as well as add/remove arbitrary lines but this is one of the things which doesn't translate perfectly from old configs.

inserting "check, bet, raise, raise, call, bet" isnt really the same as having 'check if called previous street' checked, donkbet pops up on the next street everytime theres x-bet/x+1-bet/call present

so whats the work-around here? assuming i use a single, large turn/river betsizes and 66% betsize if there was a raise before? just rollback?

You can make list of lines to remove.
It was something we didn't think about (there are many flags and it's hard to test all of them) but we feel the current state is an acceptable one because donkbets in those lines don't use more memory and the solver is already very memory efficient after recent upgrades.