Also I would like to ask about different versions of the product.What is the difference between them.As I see it's only 3 differences

1.Limitations - Basic use 4 core , Pro 12 core ,Edge - I don't know.What this means that some works faster then the other?
2.Pro and Edge are fully scriptable - what does it mean?
3.Basic have 1 activation and Pro and Edge have 2 activations- Is that mean that basic can be use on 1 PC and Pro and Edge on 2 different PCs?

Can I buy let's say Pro version ,but after 6months I want to have Edge version.Can I just pay the difference between them and upgrade my Pro to Edge?

Last question is there any chance to pay you in Skrill?

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hey got a question regarding a turn spot i was reviewing

so I gave villain 2 possible betsizes (40 & 85% pot) on turn and piosolver used for 97% of the time the 85% potbet strategy with his range, however when I compared the ev of a strategy with only one bet sizing (40 & 85% again) the strategy with the 40% potbet on the turn had a much higher ev for his entire range compared to the 85% potbet. How is this possible, and what's the best way to look at optimal postflop sizes then?

Usually, I would just put in 2 or 3 betsizes , look at our strategy, and pick the sizing which prefered the most combo's if I wanted to pick one sizing. However, this strategy might not always yield the highest ev? Could you please elaborate somewhat on this?

In general it doesn't make much sense to compare EVs once the bet is made. It only makes sense to compare EVs in root (so at the beginning of the tree).
If you attach the configs (paste to clipboard button and then either paste using [code] tags or to something like pastebin) I will show you how to find the value of an additional option in this case.

sent you a pm

punter have you heard of any reports of the preflop solver getting stuck at very low cpu usage(8-10% on my 8 core i7)? it's happened to me twice now(after the newest update). ive tried stopping the solver and left it for an hour or so but it never stopped; had to delete my tree and start over. i wish i could give you more info but i'm not sure how to recreate the problem, it's only occurred after several hours of running.

I haven't heard about it. It is very stable for people who run it 24h/day on many machines. This makes it more likely that usual suspects are to blame:

1)antivirus (especially crap like Avast) doing some kind of "protection" or online scan
2)windows updates firing up and messing up with the memory
3)swap file being in use (that can only happen if you are close to a memory limit and part of RAM is swapped with the disc)
4)some kind of energy saving settings kicking in after computer is idle for a while

My experience is that vast majority of problems with stability of the solver is caused by antiviruses so it's always the first thing to disable all kind of scheduled scans or "online file shields" or what not.

thanks for the response punter. if i had to guess i think it has something to do with the swap file. it seems the swap file is used even when i have a few gb of ram free still(just guessing bc my ram will start freeing/caching itself). i've been trying to make my trees a bit smaller and it's been working fine.

Would the one way to find best line versus villain assuming they can't adjust be to lock every node for villain? This is very time consuming, is there a lock all nodes for player option as f this timr?

There are some settings I think. The main one is size of disc cache in RAM but I don't know much about it.

Equilibrium approximation is already very close to max exploit (in perfect equilibrium both strategies are max exploit vs each other).
To making locking all (or part of) the nodes to be useful one would need to change strategies in them in some general way to model Villain's strategy. This is currently not possible and is quite a big feature to implement as one needs the whole language to express what you want to lock. It might happen one day but not in the near future.

Hi,

I was changing my compiler versions today and managed to mess up the shipping process. This affects people who got the licenses today (January 2nd 2016). The symptoms: the solver didn't work (crashed) for preflop/flop cases. It's fixed now, the way to fix it on your system:

1)Run the updater again
2)check "force update" checkbox
3)click "check for updates and update" button
4)let it run
5)it should work now

I am sorry for the problems. The good thing is that it will be 5%-10% faster that it would be 2 days ago (I will update it for everyone in the next release in 2-3 weeks).

Hi, now is preflop solver edge only for 2PCs?

Yes, the initial plan was to make it a separate product but we decided to add it to the edge version making a time-limited offer for getting 3 (which tbh was too cheap by big margin but what can you do).
The date was initially set for something like 19th Dec, then extended to 25th.

The problem is those were intended as a personal licenses but unfortunately there is very little I can do about people sharing them and I am not willing to offer a preflop solver for 366$ as the market for it is quite limited and it took a lot of time to develop (and is still taking a lot to improve).

(after week)

I led by this statement...
But changes comes very quickly

I understand you were confused by reading selected posts but it was clear from the very beginning that an offer to get 3 activations is time limited. For example an original announcement here:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=671

and a lot of posts asking about the same thing and me postponing the date of it being reduced to two

When I am answering questions I am answering them assuming you ask about how it is at the time of asking. The fact that something is priced at X today doesn't constitute a promise nor prediction about the future. I hope this much is clear

Reminder:

When you buy the software, put a valid email in there so I can send it to you. If you don't provide the valid email not only you will not get the software but you will not be notified about it either (because I have no way to contact you).
If a guy who bought it like a week ago using email registered to ...edu domain is reading this, please pm me

Hi i´m restarting using this soft and i have a few question:

- I want to save the most common spots in the most frequently boards (20 most common boards). For example i want to build trees for 20 flops on 3betpot BBvs BTN...can i use for that pourpose "GENERATE SCRIPT" option? ( i saw the tutorial video but looks like if it was for reports or another things). I have the basic piosolver licence.

- when i try to study the decision on a tree everythings was very good and visual, but the problem is that most of the desition are so split (raise % and call% for every single hand), so they don´t have too much utlity to memoriced/apply on tables... Is there any way to simplify the decision (some block of hands raise, some fold...) sacrifying accurance but winning in utility and perfomance on tables?

thanks for all

Basic version doesn't support scripts as of today which is about the only limitation it has today.

There is an option round strategies but I really don't recommend that.
Maybe it's a better idea to look at range composition - how it constructs a betting range for example using Range Explorer. You can see how many strong/weak hands are in the range and develop some intuition about how those should play out.
You may want to check the video section:
http://piosolver.myshopify.com/pages/faq-videos

It's a bit limited for now but maybe there is something interesting for you. I talk about Range Explorer a bit in the quick start guide one.

Are the top 10 or top 20 most representative flops available somewhere? I am an owner of the basic version and would like to study the software before upgrading to edge. Would like to see a video (maybe there exists already?) about scripting at slow pace somewhere.

Can you add to range explorer backdoor + option "OR / AND" for summary made hands and draws? Example category: Ace high AND backdoor flush draw.

http://piosolver.myshopify.com/blogs...the-whole-game

Added in dev version, will be available in 1.7.

Edge version have 2 activations on owner's computers?

Yes.
You can use it on a cloud instance/dedicated servers as well (although in the case of cloud instances you may need to take care of deactivating/activating them yourself before the VM is killed).

Running some larger trees the solver has stopped; CPU going back to idle.

However, its not writing anything to disk ... this is a Windows Server 2012 running on an internal network. Its dedicated to PioSolver so there are no other applications, antivirus, etc...

I7-5820K, 64GB, 512GB SSD (442GB free space)
PioSOLVER-pro16.exe 1.6.0 Dec 19 2015 20:07:30

Its running a script with multiple flops and completed four of 10. Its just on this fifth one we've reached ~18140 seconds of running time and its just sitting idle.



I'll give it another ~45-60 minutes to see if anything starts happening again ....