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12-31-2019 , 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by DiamondsOnMyNeck
On another note, I've recently had issue copying ranges from one clipboard to the next. Not a huge deal but seems like a simple problem.
Nvm. Personal issue.
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01-01-2020 , 12:49 AM
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It's only because the solution is not perfect yet.
In the near future we will have a feature to make rivers more precise by recalculating on the fly (now it only happens when you load a small save) to mitigate that effect.
Notice that even on your screenshot the EV differences are relatively minor (in comparison to the pot size) and that you are looking at the very rare line to begin with (0.06% total).
Also please take note that the EVs are calculated against current solution (and not against exact equilibrium as we don't know what it is). The frequencies might already be almost perfect but the EVs will vary as even one small deviation (from the theoretical equilibirum) of one of the players will produce EV differences. The EVs provided are mainly useful as a sanity check. The closer they are for mixed actions the better the solution is.
Is it possible to recalculate turns/rivers on the fly using a command or some other way besides loading a small save? This would be an extremely helpful feature. Or is the only way to recalc nodes in the tree to load up a small save file?
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01-01-2020 , 04:44 AM
Hi,

I'm having issues with blocking PartyPoker from running when PIO runs. When I edit pokersites.txt ( please let me know if this screen shot should stop Party from running to begin with) https://gyazo.com/88f344131237678e450e44478f56bb23

When I add 'PartyPoker.exe' to list I receive this message when trying to reopen Piosolver:
https://gyazo.com/b478ab7541ba2901c5732e02039bad97

When I get to step2 I get this message:
https://gyazo.com/746dc028ae6319bfebc02575b7c3232a

The window then closes after about 1 second and I'm not sure what to do, as it doesn't resolve the issue. Any idea what may be going wrong?
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01-01-2020 , 09:37 AM
How do you use the range arithmetic functions in the range building window ? I select an arithmetic function like multiply and it opens a new window....what do I do next ?
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01-02-2020 , 09:45 AM
Will PioSolver 2.0 solve significant faster than 1.0?
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01-02-2020 , 10:40 AM
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Is it possible to recalculate turns/rivers on the fly using a command or some other way besides loading a small save? This would be an extremely helpful feature. Or is the only way to recalc nodes in the tree to load up a small save file?
We already have this in dev. It will available soon.
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I'm having issues with blocking PartyPoker from running when PIO runs. When I edit pokersites.txt ( please let me know if this screen shot should stop Party from running to begin with) https://gyazo.com/88f344131237678e450e44478f56bb23
You need a number before the process name in the text file as well.
So it should be:

0 PartyPoker.exe

instead of:

PartyPoker.exe

Explanation of what the numbers mean (0, 1, 2, 3) is in your screenshot.
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How do you use the range arithmetic functions in the range building window ? I select an arithmetic function like multiply and it opens a new window....what do I do next ?
It multiplies range by range so it opens another window so you can insert the range to multiply by there.

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Will PioSolver 2.0 solve significant faster than 1.0?
If we ever release it... Yes, it will be faster. Around 2x faster if you want the trees to be the same size and around 3x-5x faster if you can afford them being 2.5x bigger.
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01-03-2020 , 06:18 AM
Thanks. That doesn't appear to be blocking PIO though? Or am I wrong?https://gyazo.com/0f0ad325303a0a2e6231d825ac392462

I haven't logged in. Do I need to?( I'm somewhat concerned about getting banned in case it doesn't work, but will give it ago if it appears things are set correctly) I thought it should block without logging in, the same way it does for Stars

Thanks
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01-05-2020 , 03:31 AM
I have 40 50 60 1000 turn raise size for ip and oop. Is there any way to keep these but when there is already a raise on turn the response to this raise would be 40 or 1000 and not the 50 60 included? I can see the add extra / remove line but this will take a ton of lines or there is another way?
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01-06-2020 , 10:29 AM
with edge version what does 2 activations you can move from computer to computer without any limits?
does it mean it can be used on multiple computers but only 2 at a time? don't fully understand it.
Also how much ram would be needed?
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01-06-2020 , 09:02 PM
Next gen threadripper 3990x has been announced, releases next month for $4k.
Should be compatible with 256gb of ram too.
Thinking of upgrading my 1950x. Anybody else looking to buy this amazing proc?
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01-07-2020 , 04:28 AM
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Thanks. That doesn't appear to be blocking PIO though? Or am I wrong?https://gyazo.com/0f0ad325303a0a2e6231d825ac392462
I am sorry, it's probably not obvious for non-programmers.
You need the following line in there:

Code:
0 PartyPoker.exe
This will block the process with exactly that name (including capital letters)
On the other hand, this:

Code:
3 partypoker
Blocks everything with partypoker in its name. For example PartyPOKER-PLAN00R, partypokerclicker, partypokerMaNaGaEr.

Lines which starts with # are ignored (they are comments). That's why your solution doesn't work.


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I have 40 50 60 1000 turn raise size for ip and oop. Is there any way to keep these but when there is already a raise on turn the response to this raise would be 40 or 1000 and not the 50 60 included? I can see the add extra / remove line but this will take a ton of lines or there is another way?
Right now there is no way to do this. You can request one raise size once one raise is made but not two.
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with edge version what does 2 activations you can move from computer to computer without any limits?
does it mean it can be used on multiple computers but only 2 at a time? don't fully understand it.
Also how much ram would be needed?
You can use it on 2 computers at the same time and move it from computer to computer without any limits (which is useful for cloud instances for example).

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Also how much ram would be needed?
To solve preflop trees at least 64GB. You want 128GB for more complicated cases.

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Next gen threadripper 3990x has been announced, releases next month for $4k.
Should be compatible with 256gb of ram too.
Thinking of upgrading my 1950x. Anybody else looking to buy this amazing proc?
Yeah, I am thinking about it. It will likely not be the best value in comparison to 32 core one and single core performance is likely to be worse (did they announce the clocks?) but overall performance will be incredible.
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01-07-2020 , 04:51 PM
Still doesn't appear to be blocking PartyPoker. Any idea of the issue?
https://gyazo.com/cff34eb7a1c584e8cfe36d4426282c3b
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01-08-2020 , 09:26 AM
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Still doesn't appear to be blocking PartyPoker. Any idea of the issue?
Open Task Manager and see what exact process name is. Maybe it uses something different than PartyPoker.exe
Pio reads that file only once at start-up as well. This means after making changes in the file you need to:
1)save the .txt file
2)restart Pio

To see the effect of the changes.
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01-09-2020 , 11:50 AM
Just purchased Pio Edge and I'm looking to upgrade my system to be a bit more optimal for Pio's computing power. Would this be an appropriate setup to use with Pio?

Processors: dual Xeon E5-2678 v3 2.5 Ghz 12 core
Memory: 64GB (4 x 16 GB) DDR4
Primary HD: 800Gb SAA 6 GPS SSD
Secondary HD: 4TB 3.5" SATA

Thanks
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01-10-2020 , 11:58 AM
Hi, i just ran a bunch of postflop sims with Pio pro and noticed afterwards that i last updated my pio about 2 years ago.
Was there any updates that would have changed the results at all the last 2 years?
Or is it basically the same thing?
sorry i'm a bit of a noob on the technical side and afraid the sims wont be super accurate.

Thanks a lot already
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01-10-2020 , 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by punter11235

Yeah, I am thinking about it. It will likely not be the best value in comparison to 32 core one and single core performance is likely to be worse (did they announce the clocks?) but overall performance will be incredible.
3970x 32 core base clock 3.7 boost up to 4.5 $1999

3990x 64 core base clock 2.9 boost up to 4.3 $3990


In terms of raw value it does look like the 3970x will offer better performance per $ due to the lower boost clock of the 3990x, but overall throughput should be much higher for the 3990x, assuming pio scales well up to 64/128 thread.


I wish there was some way to utilize more than 256gb of ram, but it looks like TR will cap at that.
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01-11-2020 , 05:11 PM
Hi, a noob question but how much performance boost would I see in upgrading from 8c to 12c processor. Is it worth the upgrade? Thnx
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01-12-2020 , 04:43 PM
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Hi, a noob question but how much performance boost would I see in upgrading from 8c to 12c processor. Is it worth the upgrade? Thnx
Since the performance is proportionate to the number of cores, assuming it's clocked at the same speed, it would be 1.5X faster.
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01-12-2020 , 04:57 PM
Little question.. I wanna use the board feature to study differents boards that has the same tree configuration. For example, I have a 3Bet pot BTN vs CO folder with different boards, I would like to go from one to another with the feature but don't understand how. Here is the message I get when trying to use it.



Thanks for your help
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01-13-2020 , 08:23 AM
how much space does Pio edge take over. what's min specs laptop would need to run sims? sorry if noob question I'm just thinking of starting out with Pio
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01-13-2020 , 07:47 PM
Hey all - appreciate any help you can give me.

I just built a computer for the first time and moved my PioSolver Pro there. It solved a basic hand very fast though when I open task manager I notice it's using 100% CPU and not much memory(18%) or disk(0%). Is this always the case/is there a bottleneck there or can I do more with my RAM?

I'm running a Ryzen 3700x CPU(8 core/16 Thread), 32 GB RAM(2x16), 1TB SSD, and RTX 2070 Super for GPU.

I'm not overclocking currently and wasn't planning on it but would like to maximize the performance I can get.
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01-14-2020 , 02:53 AM
I could get great deal for this 400$
HP Z420 PTC Creo Workstation E5-1620v2 4 Cores 8 Threads 3.7Ghz 64GB

would it be enough to run comfortably( fast) PIO Edge?
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01-14-2020 , 06:14 AM
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Processors: dual Xeon E5-2678 v3 2.5 Ghz 12 core
Memory: 64GB (4 x 16 GB) DDR4
Primary HD: 800Gb SAA 6 GPS SSD
Secondary HD: 4TB 3.5" SATA
Don't buy Intel CPUs, buy Thread Rippers instead unless you get an amazing deal for Intel.
RAM: 64GB is enough for most practical simple preflop trees but you may want 128GB at some point. It's a good idea to make sure you can upgrade to 128 in the future.


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Was there any updates that would have changed the results at all the last 2 years?
Or is it basically the same thing?
sorry i'm a bit of a noob on the technical side and afraid the sims wont be super accurate.
Results are the same. Don't worry about it. We recommend updating your Pio anyway.


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In terms of raw value it does look like the 3970x will offer better performance per $ due to the lower boost clock of the 3990x, but overall throughput should be much higher for the 3990x, assuming pio scales well up to 64/128 thread.
Sadly it doesn't right now. You will likely need to disable hyperthreading to get most of the 64core one.

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Hi, a noob question but how much performance boost would I see in upgrading from 8c to 12c processor. Is it worth the upgrade? Thnx
The speed is more or less proportional to the number of physical cores multiplied by the frequency they run on.

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Little question.. I wanna use the board feature to study differents boards that has the same tree configuration. For example, I have a 3Bet pot BTN vs CO folder with different boards, I would like to go from one to another with the feature but don't understand how. Here is the message I get when trying to use it.
This feature (opening other flops from the same folder quickly) works based on filenames. There needs to be a board in a filename for it to recognize it. We use "T" for a ten, not "10". Please rename the file to QcTs2d and it will work.

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how much space does Pio edge take over. what's min specs laptop would need to run sims? sorry if noob question I'm just thinking of starting out with Pio
Pio itself uses very little space. Once you start making tree saves though then you need some disc space depending if you are saving full trees (not recommended as those are humongous) or trees without rivers (they are recalculated on the fly when you browse).
Please check the short FAQ section, here:
https://www.piosolver.com/pages/faq#hardware


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I just built a computer for the first time and moved my PioSolver Pro there. It solved a basic hand very fast though when I open task manager I notice it's using 100% CPU and not much memory(18%) or disk(0%). Is this always the case/is there a bottleneck there or can I do more with my RAM?
It's only the case if the tree is small. The bigger the tree the more RAM you need. You can use "estimate tree" button to see how much RAM a given tree would take without building it.

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I could get great deal for this 400$
HP Z420 PTC Creo Workstation E5-1620v2 4 Cores 8 Threads 3.7Ghz 64GB
You will be able to build reasonable preflop trees but it wil be quite slow as the CPU is old and slow (it's similar to the one I am running at home). It's not terrible but it will take many hours to solve a preflop tree for example.
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01-14-2020 , 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by punter11235

Sadly it doesn't right now. You will likely need to disable hyperthreading to get most of the 64core one.

I wasn't aware of this. Will pio eventually be updated to make use of 64/128 and beyond, and what are your thoughts on the timeframe for this?
Lastly, how much faster would a hyperthreading disabled 64core be compared to a 32core with HT enabled?


I know these are difficult questions to answer, but it would help me determine whether or not I should splurge for the 3990x. Thank you punter for any guidance.
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01-14-2020 , 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by punter11235
Don't buy Intel CPUs, buy Thread Rippers instead unless you get an amazing deal for Intel.
RAM: 64GB is enough for most practical simple preflop trees but you may want 128GB at some point. It's a good idea to make sure you can upgrade to 128 in the future.




Results are the same. Don't worry about it. We recommend updating your Pio anyway.




Sadly it doesn't right now. You will likely need to disable hyperthreading to get most of the 64core one.



The speed is more or less proportional to the number of physical cores multiplied by the frequency they run on.



This feature (opening other flops from the same folder quickly) works based on filenames. There needs to be a board in a filename for it to recognize it. We use "T" for a ten, not "10". Please rename the file to QcTs2d and it will work.



Pio itself uses very little space. Once you start making tree saves though then you need some disc space depending if you are saving full trees (not recommended as those are humongous) or trees without rivers (they are recalculated on the fly when you browse).
Please check the short FAQ section, here:
https://www.piosolver.com/pages/faq#hardware




It's only the case if the tree is small. The bigger the tree the more RAM you need. You can use "estimate tree" button to see how much RAM a given tree would take without building it.



You will be able to build reasonable preflop trees but it wil be quite slow as the CPU is old and slow (it's similar to the one I am running at home). It's not terrible but it will take many hours to solve a preflop tree for example.
Cool I guess I will start looking good deals for AMD thread Ripper and 64GB RAM
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