Yeah, I'm waiting to see how well the new version is handled by the converter before I go ahead and restart Bovada and am forced to update. Thanks for any news on it.

It depends on the version you have. Most default locations are: BovadaHand Processed.

Sure... you can send them to support. Ya, we're looking at the new update. Looks pretty good so far, but if you see an error definitely send it over. Thanks.

Will there be an update soon?

I noticed yesterday after my Bovada client updated to a new format, when I converted 2000 hands, it had around 60 errors.

Yup, already fixed. You have to download the update from the site. We'll put it out as an auto update likely tomorrow.

thanks!

Grrrr, really? I am in the same boat as dark_horse and holding at the last versions of the converter and PT4 that allows all hole cards to be shown. I haven't downloaded any hands since the Bovada update, but this sounds like I may not have a choice but to update if there is a new HH format. Grrrr, why the hell do they need to keep changing the format?

If you have the previous install, hold on to it. I believe if you download and install the latest update you can go to settings and select to enable or disable hole cards (if you have PT).

I don't really follow. You mean hold on to the old PT version? Ok, I can hold there. I thought the issue was that even running that old PT version, the later versions of the converter still blocked hole cards or gave other errors even if we used the HM settings for conversion.

dark_horse, have you tried converting hands on a version later than 1.0.21 as HM hands and successfully importing them in to PT4 (4.09.1 is where I froze)? I thought I read that you had and PT4 threw errors in the import.

When I get a chance this evening, I guess I can install the latest converter, convert as HM with hole cards exposed, and see how that old PT4 handles it.

Yeah, I guess that wasn't totally clear. Hold on to the current bovada converter installer you have. Download the latest one from the site and install. Click on settings in the converter once you've installed the latest version. It should allow you to enable known hole cards. As long as you keep your PT version, then you should be good to go with the converter update. Just in case though, you can re-install your previous converter installer and you'll be right back where you were. No harm, no foul.

Short answer: no.

Everything is hosed for me right now. I saw a little thread and just had to pick at it, and now the house is temporarily burned down. My timeline:

Converting with 1.0.21 set to HM2 importing to PT 4.10.9 worked flawlessly for a couple months. Anything later than .21 and importing into any version of PT would cause errors with HM selected.

With the new Bovada update, 1.0.21 (again as HM selected, and assume I'm always working with HM selected henceforth) began ignoring certain hands between the blinds. Instead of just accepting this, I wanted to test the latest versions of PT and the converter, but away from my current installs in case I ran into any problems.

I have an iMac and have PT installed both locally and inside of a Parallels virtual machine, but rarely use PT on Windows. However, the Windows installation of PT is connected to the same PG database as the Mac, so when I went and did a "test" installation of 4.11.x it forced me to update all of my databases.

I realized too late what was going on and tried to stop the process, and this caused my main database to be unreadable by any version of PT anywhere. Tried restoring the PG system library folder from a Time Machine backup (this has saved my ass many times before), but to no avail this time.

So now you can add me in with the scores of people having problems updating to the latest version of PT (check the PT forums - good lord), and it seems that there is no way I can revert back to 4.10.9 unless I restore from a much older PT-created backup and re-import the latest hands, but without my notes and tags.

No thanks, blah, I'll wait. Currently at the mercy of PokerTracker support. In the end, I fear the result will be that nobody using any tracking software will be able to graphically see all the hole cards moving forward. You know they read this forum. Couldn't last forever.

If I'm right, I could go back to that old PT-created backup and just hold at 1.0.21 and 4.10.9 forever and just live with those small errors until more errors pop up (when Bovada inevitably changes their HH format to the point of rendering the old converter useless), or if FeakDaddy's team wants to get creative on us, figure out a way to make all this work for us.

But yeah, given the history I have a feeling all this crap is by design.

Well, you could uninstall PT and uninstall postgres completely. Then run the 4.09.1 install and start from scratch. PITA though.

I'll try updating the converter with my PT frozen at 4.09.1 and report back. I suspect that I will see what you did in your test with versions greater than .21

I grabbed the setup from the website. Installs 1.0.29. Is that correct? I have no option to show hole cards or not. Does it detect if I have HM installed before offering that setting?

Has anyone tried this converter + PT4 with HUSNG?

With HM2 it gets everything related to winnings / ITM% / hourly completely wrong, so wondering if it would work if I switched to PT.

Support just spent the last two hours controlling my screen and I got a working 4.10.9 going again. My DB got all corrupted and we restored from an older backup. Phew.

Yes, it will detect and then disable this feature. I'm going to talk to the developer about just making it available regardless. I think we did this so people don't turn it on and then say, "hey I'm getting all these errors". It's to limit support tickets since it won't work.

I figured. I get why you are doing it too. However, maybe show/hide that checkbox based on if the user selected PT or HM and/or explain that if PT is selected that box is completely ignored would allow us to get around this.

On another note, I saw that you were checking for the existence of the holdem exe and so I put a dummy one out there and activated the checkbox by doing so. Since you are also looking for file info for the version, the .NET library obviously crashed since my file wasn't a real exe. Your normal user isn't going to do that so probably no big deal, I only mention it because it appears that the converter is hard-coded to look for Program Files(x86)\Holdem Manager 2\HoldemManager.exe. If someone installs HM2 to some other directory, that will fail the detection. For example, I install all my poker apps to a separate poker directory on my D drive. Maybe 90% or more of the rest of the users just take the default install paths so it may not be worth looking in to. Just an FYI.

Yeah, we're going to enable the function and put a warning message if it's enabled.

It's not hard coded to look just for that file location. It looks in several places and the registry, but thanks for letting me know.

I'm having some new issues.

Most of the hands from my missed past few days came in correctly, but on one specific day the old converter ignored my last 5 or so hands. I decided to test out the newest converter (1.0.29 with PT selected with my current PT 4.10.9) to see if it imports them correctly, and while it gets the result correct to the penny, the hand histories themselves are weird. It doesn't show anyone's cards, even at showdown. It just shows where the pot went. Is this a known problem or am I doing something wrong?

So it appears that due to whatever formatting changes made with the latest Bovada update, version 1.0.29 is required for no errors. I'm guessing the PT thing will be fixed soon, but oddly enough when importing to PT in HEM mode, the result isn't too drastically off despite all the errors. So that's where I'll hang for now, although I'm curious how it will all work with the latest build of PT4 once they're done working out all the bugs. Just too afraid to update and screw it all up again.

..and Freak, clear ur PMs

Yeah, if you want to use HM mode still for PT4 that's fine. You will see some errors like you said. I will have the developer enable the known hole cards for either database on the next update though. Thanks.

So per feedback we have a new version that has the enable known hole cards setting, in the settings menu. It will check your version and warn you if you have a version that may not be compatible. But you can update to it, and enable it for PT or HM manually.

version: 1.0.30

It's on the main bovada converter website, but I'll put it up as an auto update by tomorrow.

OK, with 1.0.30 of the converter set to show all cards and HM as the database, I imported into PT 4.09.1 and all seems well. I have not looked for any specific situations to see if those are handled (if you have some to look for tell me), I just randomly opened a few hands and they were correct. No reported errors during the import either.

I am getting a ton of errors the last few weeks... where is this version 1.0.29? I can't find a link to it on the website and the check for updates feature says none available. I am currently running 1.0.27