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Anyone else's icmizer 2 not working? keep getting this error when loading hhs from stars and pt4

Also make my own hh and get this message when i run the hand

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06-12-2016 , 06:19 AM

#1527

ICMIZER 3 Representative

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,652

Hi rodgethat

There was a problem in the operations of some our systems this night and it was affecting some of the users.

We've figured it out and everything should be back to normal now.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

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06-13-2016 , 10:01 PM

#1528

Top Pig

adept

Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 772

anyone know of any ICM calculators that include KO's?

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06-14-2016 , 08:14 PM

#1529

ICMIZER 3 Representative

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,652

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Originally Posted by Top Pig

anyone know of any ICM calculators that include KO's?

We are working on support of KO tournaments in ICMIZER 2 right now.

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06-15-2016 , 08:24 AM

#1530

Top Pig

adept

Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 772

so are there cunrrently no programs in the entire world?

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06-15-2016 , 06:20 PM

#1531

ICMIZER 3 Representative

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Originally Posted by Top Pig

so are there cunrrently no programs in the entire world?

Well, this is the support thread for ICMIZER 2.

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06-17-2016 , 05:54 AM

#1532

GonZo72

adept

Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 917

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Originally Posted by Q

We are working on support of KO tournaments in ICMIZER 2 right now.

When do you think it will be available, weeks or months ?

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06-23-2016 , 01:32 PM

#1533

Taveira

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 105

Hello,

Is there any way to practice with the SNG coach and adjust our opponents ranges away from nash? Instead of practicing against opponents that are playing nash, practicing against opponents that are away from nash?

In the SNG's I play the players are miles away from playing the nash ranges, they push tighter than nash and call tighter than nash so it doesn't make much sense to be practicing on the SNG coach against opponents that play nash.

Is it possible to put the opponents on the SNG coach pushing and calling tighter than nash?

Thank you very much

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06-25-2016 , 12:34 AM

#1534

ThePokerBot

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,793

When you click "calculate Nash Equilibrium" it would be nice if the results popped up automatically without having to then click "calculate"

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06-27-2016 , 10:07 AM

#1535

tradenine

adept

Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 916

Hi, is there any issue with using/having open icmizer (or any other icm programs for that matter) while playing on Bovada?

It does not seem to me to fit the description of external player assistance programs in their TOS, but I want to be sure.

I have contacted them via email about this, and their replies are useless.

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06-27-2016 , 10:54 AM

#1536

Cojinho

stranger

Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 6

Hi,

Does Icmizer understand that if you fold in big blind with 5bb you are loosing the fold equity? I mean if Icmizer analyze that you have to fold KJ on BB facing a push with 5bb?

This is the hand:
http://www.icmpoker.com/icmizer/#waKcOh
It's FT of 45 players turbo on PS

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06-29-2016 , 03:46 PM

#1537

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Originally Posted by tradenine

Hi. We aren't aware about Bovada policies regarding ICMIZER 2. Their support is the source of final decisions regarding this, so if they aren't saying something meaningful I guess you have to use your own judgement.

PokerStars explicitly do not allow to use ICMIZER 2 while the client is running, but do allow to use it after poker sessions. Maybe Bovada are using the same idea?

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06-29-2016 , 03:48 PM

#1538

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Originally Posted by Cojinho

Hi. You only lose fold equity when noone folds to your pushes. When you have 4BB you still can have fold equity, it will depend on the other stacks and general tournament situation and payout. ICMIZER 2 takes that into account.

Imagine that its a satelite bubble and stacks are 4bb 5bb 4bb and 2bb and 2 bb. 4BB pushes will get folds for sure.

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06-29-2016 , 09:38 PM

#1539

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Originally Posted by ThePokerBot

When you click "calculate Nash Equilibrium" it would be nice if the results popped up automatically without having to then click "calculate"

Hi. This is not planned, since it would break the usual flow for most if not all of our customers.

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06-29-2016 , 09:39 PM

#1540

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Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,652

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Originally Posted by Taveira

Hi. Currently it is not possible to do this. This may be added in the future.
Right now SNG Coach teaches you the Nash equilibrium push fold strategy, and the adjustments can be made with the help of ICMIZER.

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06-29-2016 , 11:41 PM

#1541

Taveira

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 105

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Originally Posted by Q

Thank you very much Q!

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06-30-2016 , 10:19 AM

#1542

Top Pig

adept

Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 772

Got the KO's done yet? Should be like gigantic priority as riggerstars have rigged things this way...

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06-30-2016 , 05:29 PM

#1543

tradenine

adept

Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 916

(wrote this out yesterday but forgot to hit post lol)

i just put a bovada 6max hyper turbo hu spot in both hrc and icmizer. (http://hands.holdemresources.net/?id=1bpbe3bhup05d)

the nash ranges given are 1-2% different. why?

also, in icmizer, when i switch hero from sb to bb, everything else the same, the sb push range goes from 78% to 76. ??????

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07-01-2016 , 09:57 AM

#1544

ICMIZER 3 Representative

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Originally Posted by Top Pig

Got the KO's done yet? Should be like gigantic priority as riggerstars have rigged things this way...

Hi. Not yet, but probably will be ready next week!

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07-01-2016 , 10:04 AM

#1545

ICMIZER 3 Representative

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Originally Posted by tradenine

Hi. These Nash equilibrium calculations are different, the website uses linear Nash equilibrium and ICMIZER 2 uses full Nash equilibrium and gives more accurate results.

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07-01-2016 , 10:45 AM

#1546

tradenine

adept

Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 916

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Originally Posted by tradenine

i just put a bovada 6max hyper turbo hu spot in both hrc and icmizer. (http://hands.holdemresources.net/?id=1bpbe3bhup05d)

the nash ranges given are 1-2% different. why?

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Originally Posted by Q

Hi. These Nash equilibrium calculations are different, the website uses linear Nash equilibrium and ICMIZER 2 uses full Nash equilibrium and gives more accurate results.

i got that result using the hrc calc for windows (which uses full nash i believe) and icmizer 2 for windows.

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Originally Posted by tradenine

also, in icmizer, when i switch hero from sb to bb, everything else the same, the sb push range goes from 78% to 76. ??????

can u explain this?

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07-01-2016 , 01:36 PM

#1547

ICMIZER 3 Representative

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Hi tradenine

In that case the reason is different. ICMIZER uses pure Nash equilibrium strategies, while hrc uses mixed strategies. This explains the visible difference.

As for change in ICMIZER when you hit calculate it finds the precise range, while the Nash equilibrium range is an approximation. The details of this effect are described in this article: http://www.icmpoker.com/en/blog/anal...sh-fold-spots/

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07-03-2016 , 02:57 PM

#1548

tradenine

adept

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Originally Posted by Q

ICMIZER uses pure Nash equilibrium strategies, while hrc uses mixed strategies. This explains the visible difference.

What do you mean by "mixed strategies"?

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Originally Posted by Q

As for change in ICMIZER when you hit calculate it finds the precise range, while the Nash equilibrium range is an approximation. The details of this effect are described in this article: http://www.icmpoker.com/en/blog/anal...sh-fold-spots/

The spot in question was just calculating nash ranges. This was a hu spot, and hero was, at first, in the sb (button). Then I simply moved hero from sb (button) to bb and recalculated the nash ranges, and they changed, with sb pushing range going down by 2%.

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07-04-2016 , 01:00 AM

#1549

ThePokerBot

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,793

Can we have a feature that gives us an automated "profitable range?" For example if i want to 3bet shove what is the maximum range that the villain can be opening. Or if i am considering calling a shove or 3bet shoving with a given hand what is the range the villain has to be shoving with to make the call/reshove break even or profitable

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07-04-2016 , 08:38 AM

#1550

RRM

centurion

Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 137

Hi,

Is it possible that icmizer automatically calculates optimal call ranges for given reshove ranges? At the moment when I'm trying to check reshove spots, icmizer automatically gives 8% range for the opener and then I have to create manually the calling range.

https://gyazo.com/bc22eba3464c4a5a2c577f4b81ceab10

Cheers

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