Thank you. Yes, this was a bug, that should now be fixed.

Please download the newest version from our site here, and please tell us if the problem is fixed.

Thanks you!

Should be fixed. Have you re-downloaded and tried?

I am interested in getting some training software, is this the only one that gives you the near real time feedback? This seems like a very useful method of learning.

I would like to see more reviews and recommendations for this software, it seems like the team have been working hard on updating it but this thread is very mixed, especially the first half with the controversy.

For how long is the 50% offer on for or is it just a marketing gimmick and that is the real price?

Pbehrman, I started trialing your software today, and first off I find it to be very user friendly. It was fairly easy to get it set up and running; a good start

I have a slew of questions, but I'll start with a couple (to me) important ones:

1. When replaying a session, will the advice adjust/improve over time as your software gets more data on my opponents? I imported 500 hands today, and I was wondering if advice will change if I had, say, 5000 or 50,000 hands imported.

2. Are the preflop recommendations static, or do they also change with time?

3. Is there any way to get more details on the advice given? For example, it told me I should have called instead of folding AQo to a 3bet. It helps to know what to do, but if I have no idea why I should do it, it will be much harder to learn because I have no idea what your thinking is behind the decisions.

4. Do you have a rough timeline for adding other sites, specifically, microgaming?

Thanks for your help.

We had hoped to raise it, but we don't plan to... So we need to change that....

You can see reactions from many more people at our web site forum.

Also, you can use it for free for 2 weeks and see if you like it.

Enjoy!

Yes, it'll improve over time just like any good poker player. It improves for two reasons: (1) it gets to know your opponents and (2) it gets to know you.



They adjust based on (a) stack sizes and (b) your opponent's behavior. For example, if someone is raising all the time, it'll advise to reraise more and call a bit more. If some one folds to steal attempt too much it'll steal more.

Stack size is quite important.


We have plans to add this, but we have no specific timeline. We agree that would be quite helpful. Postflop you can see what the AI thinks your opponent has. You can also watch the training videos that will help a lot.

An AQ preflop call (instead of fold to 3 bet) is probably either stack based or profile based or based on the size of the reraise (or a combination). In a number of instances it would recommend fold.



We don't at this time.

Thank you for your interest!!

Thanks for your honesty about the price, you should update the FAQ too because it says that is a special beta price.

I did not realise there was a free trial, that is a great idea. I have been playing for a short time and whilst it has not really improved my poker game yet (so far I am losing haha) but I like that you copied Full Tilt, even if they are a shameful company, their layout is was my favourite.

As you seem to value feedback so much, a few things I would like to recommend are a pause button so I can think what the bots are doing. Also perhaps give the pot odds and other odds so we can make sure we are calculating them in our heads correctly (for practice), and adding in some microstakes tables options would be nice (so we don't have to twiddle with settings when the software is unfamiliar). Maybe also show outs and the probabilities of yourself hitting certain hands (you show it for the best opponent but not yourself), EV of your hand.

So far my impression is positive and I may well purchase the software within the next few weeks if I don't come across anything bad as I explore it further.

Thanks.

Thank you! These are all very good recommendations! We are planning them, but I'm not sure when we'll have them.

Please share other perspectives you have as you play. If you have a ton of hands to import, please do so. Then watch the videos and you'll learn a TON!

Enjoy!

I came across a bug I think, the trainer recommended me to go all-in with $20 except I have nearly $120 so it is not really all-in. I need to learn more about how to size bets, I do have a couple of good books so I should probably read them instead of being lazy :P

Also twice now I have had a KQo hand and have been recommended to fold preflop, this hand would usually be a raise for me, I ignored the trainer and won a nice pot for one of them.

From what position did it tell you to fold this? Also, just because you won a nice pot with it, doesn't mean you should be playing it.

Yep... It should never say fold KQo preflop before any action has occurred. Can you tell me what action you were facing (e.g., raise and reraise?)

I was in early position both times, one I was UTG and first to act, and the other i was UTG+1 and the guy before me folded. I was told to fold both times.

If you want logs or something, tell me how, maybe an export hand feature would be nice

I imported the Holy Grail logs into HEM but I am not very good with HEM and couldn't find them (maybe because I have the microstakes version, and it thinks holy grail logs is real money and therefore over microstakes?).

Pbehrman, thanks for answering all my questions. Here are a few more, I hope that's okay:

1. Earlier in this thread someone mentioned about converting HHs to a "standard" forum format and imputting them that way. Is this or will this be possible?

2. Strategy related, HGOP is telling me I should be 3betting my small pps instead of calling them when facing a raise. Is this standard? I tend to flatcall 99% of the time in these spots.

Thx again.

0. All the questions you want to ask are more than welcome.
1. No we'll just do all the conversions ourselves.
2. That's weird. It should not be telling you to 3 bet your small pocket pairs at all (or only very seldom). Maybe your definition of 3 bet is different than ours. We define it as responding to (for example) an initial preflop raise (e.g., from the guy "under the gun"). You should raise with pocket pairs preflop if playing 6max and no action before you. But if you are facing a raise, then you should call or fold most of the time (depending upon stack size and position).

Can you describe a specific situation or provide a hand history? That sounds weird.

1. To rephrase this, I would like to be able to import hands played on Microgaming because this is the main site I play on. Since you said you have no timeline to implement other sites, I wondered if you were planning to implement a sort of "catch all," where hands from non-supported sites could be converted to a certain HH format and imported to HGOP. (was suggested earlier in this thread)

HGOP wouldn't have to import and convert all hands played, as I assume this would be a lot of work on your part as well as resource-intensive for the user. It would be enough if I could manually convert and import select HHs I would like to analyze. This might require a bit of extra time on the user's part. But by allowing HGOP to recognize a certain HH format regardless of what site the hand was played on, it would widen your potential client base to virtually anyone who plays online poker and knows how to use a HH converter.

2. This is one example, I found a near identical hand with 44, and there may be more.

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #10038052

Hero (BTN): $25 (100 bb)
SB: $26.38 (105.5 bb)
BB: $55.64 (222.6 bb)
UTG: $25.63 (102.5 bb)
MP: $26.34 (105.4 bb)
CO: $37.01 (148 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 5 5
2 folds, CO raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.75

HGOP says this hand is not ideal, wanting me to 3bet to 2.25 90% of the time.

3. I can't seem to figure out how to use the "Hand Situations" feature. I would like to give myself JJ and see how I should be reacting to 3bets oop. I looked but couldn't find an FAQ or demo video on this feature.

Thanks.

Thanks Big Mac!!

This an exception to the general rule: with deep stacks call a preflop raiser with pocket pair (and other high implied odds hands) particularly when you have position.

In the situation you presented above, I would call that a "re-steal opportunity" (i.e., you are facing a CO steal). Here is why you should raise w/ that hand and a lot more in that situation.

(1) Your opponent does not have a good hand a lot of the time, therefore the value of calling w/ low pocket pairs is lower than normal. If you call someone with low pocket pair what hand do you hope your opponent has? The answer: AA's. Because the 1 in 12 times that you flop a set, you want to win a lot of money. If your opponent steals in the CO with 56s and you flop a set, then he will not lose much money. If he has AA's or top pair good kicker you stand to win a big pot to make up for the majority of the time, when he continuation bets and you fold your weak holding.

For this same reasoning, many pros will fold pocket 22's to 66's in the small blind to a steal attempt from the button.

(2) Since there's a good chance your opponent has a weak holding, he'll fold a large % of the time to your resteal. Early position raisers are less likely to fold (because their hand will be better).

The reason he's stealing is he's hoping to steal the blinds OR get a caller out of position and win the pot with a continuation bet (i.e., smart stuff). Your re-raise screws that plan up completely. Now your opponent is Out of position and he's in the position he had hoped to put the blinds in.

(3) As implied above, if he does call your re-steal, then you have the initiative and when you both miss on the flop (i.e., a majority of the time). You can bet the flop and win a large % of the time with your weak holding.

I'll answer your other questions later... Gotta run...

1. We assessed this before. Recognizing that we have every site except a few, we concluded it would be better to do them all. Sorry.

3. Go here and you can see a customers' video re: Hand Situations.

http://www.holygrailofpoker.com/phpB...php?f=23&t=146

Hi, sorry if this has been answered.
1) How many tables live can I play with this?
2) Can I use it at the same time as HEM?
3) Does this work with 6max HU and FR?
4) Does it adjust to stakes?
5) The artificial games, can u multitable these?

Thanks.

1. Unlimited, but depending upon your PC's speed it might not be able to keep up with you...
2. Yep
3. Just multi-person NL
4. It adjusts to opponents. It treats a calling station w/ has a VP$IP of 20% and a PF Raise of 5% the same whether it's high stakes or low stakes (but of course there are more calling stations at low stakes)
5. Yes.

Thank you for the questions

Wow. You are right. I just checked it. I'll look into it and get back soon.

Thank you!

Regarding advice saying to fold KQo in early position (presumably in a full ring game)
Thanks for this question. When you asked it I thought either (a) you were mistaken or (b) we had a bug -- cause folding KQo struck me as odd as well.

However, our pros fold KQo UTG+1 in full ring (i.e., w/ 10 players or UTG w/ 9 players) 96% of the time. These guys average making $100/hour playing $1/2 NL Texas Holdem (i.e., two of the all time best). To accomplish this they try to make every play give them the best edge. They believe that (despite the fact that they are some of the world's best poker players) they will loss money on average playing KQo UTG in a full ring game.

I I knew this at one point, but apparently I forgot...

I'm encountering an error within the first 1-2 minutes of running the program, and it closes because of it. This is what I'm getting:

'Error: Access violation at 0x00470963 (tried to read from 0x00000000), program terminated.



EDIT: problem seems to be fixed following a PC restart

Yep. That's been a hard bug for us to squash. It seems to be quite rare, which makes it hard to solve. But we'll get it!

Reseal,

Have you experienced this problem again?

On your website, I think your company is way overstating the quality of the Poker Academy No Limit Hold Em AI bots.

My understanding is that Poker Academy had one of the "best" heads up LIMIT hold em bots (only available on Poker Academy Online), and that their NL bots were generally considered to be complete crap, as Poker Academy is most well known in relation to limit hold em, as far as I know.

I'm just a limit hold em player, in regards to cash games, so I can't verify the quality of the NL cash bots, as I have only played the simulator NL in tournament mode. In tournament mode, the NL bots are atrocious, and make huge errors over and over.

Are there any plans to adapt your program to limit hold em?