Regarding the W$SD,W$SF numbers being weird etc - don't read too much into this. I'm pretty sure it is a bug in the code I'm using to calculate the value and it will be fixed and you will get the values that you would expect once it is fixed. I'll also add more w$Sd numbers related to 3/4 betting preflop.

rvg

What does Holdem Manager do with the HH's once it reads them in the PS folder?

Ah ok I see, looking forward to seeing them fixed. Like I said I'd really like to see a W$SF% stat for hands only included for vpip. Actually, I would also like a seperate one for raised pots ONLY (where you raised preflop or called a raise). The current W$SF stat is a bit misleading in PT because they include stupid hands where you check 38o in the BB after some limpers and then check fold some random flop. I don't like that since those are really unimportant pots and I want to know how often I'm winning raised pots that go to the flop as they are a lot more meaningful and also it's a very telling stat on how aggressive somebody is postflop.

Also, I hate the way some stats are calculated as in the percentage of total hands played. For 3bet% that's fine, but for something like % of time called/folded/reraised after being 3 bet I think it's much better to look at the percent they did each action after being reraised rather than total hands (as that is very dependant on how often that person is being 3 bet which will skew stats badly).

And stuff like cbet % in and out of position would be great, as well as cbet % into two players.

i use Prima so i cant work the damn thing

when you launch the real thing, please include an extensive user's guide.

Don't feel bad. I play on FT and cant use it. Apparently SQL is smarter than me.

hey,

regarding WtSD numbers.

PT does one thing oddly w/ w$sd numbers that I think you should look into.

Let's say you're playing a LHE hand and you are SB vs BB HU. If you split the hand, it is considered "losing" the hand at showdown because of rake. At the same time, if you are Button vs BB, and you split the hand, it is considered "winning" the hand, because of the extremely small profit from SB's posted blind minus rake.

I think these hands should be standardized somehow.

One thing i've noticed is if you run two reports in the same tab the title columns seem to overlap.

here is a pic:



But if you go to another tab and then back again it is fine.

amen

so far a great app. amazing postflop analysis tools. seeing how high certain people c/r turn or 3bet pf is revealing.

i can't get used to the look, especially in the Reports section for reviewing hands. it's like a see of white, whereas PT's colors/layout make columns/rows look more defined.

I disagree, in one hand you're losing money, and in one hand you're winning money. It's pretty simple and standard to me.

There is a terribly named stat "Non Small Showdown Win % which only counts hands where you won or lost 5BB's or more. Might be a better indication. There is also a "Won Large Showdown" which is 20 BB's or more.

I'll see what I can do about the split pot thing - it really should not count as a win or loss when it is split like this so I'll see if there is an easy way to deal with it.

rvg

One short extenstion to the known regional Settings bug:

Import a file and you get the message "Completed (0 imported, 0 duplicates, 0 errors)".
No report possible

Import the same file again and you get: Completed (0 imported, 64 duplicates, 1 error)
Still no report possible..

(Trying to find a player in the Select Player window seem to crash the manager)

not sure if it has been mentioned, but in the Hands page, i can't click on the columns (starting with "vs. 3bet") so that it sorts in ascending/descending (like, click on "vs. 3bet" so all those hands are at the top).

Hi RVG72. Looks like you have great program in the works there. When looking at iPoker compatibility would you check if these hands work. They're mined using Gold Mine (iPoker datamining app). They are XMLly equivalent to the hands produced by iPoker but some existing programs (PO) still can't deal with them.

RVG let me know if you want me to send you any of the hands that came straight from my July FTP HH and imported at 0 0 0.

yes, please just send them to TourneyMgr@gmail.com

(he's asleep and/or at work, so if you send them, he'll get to it in the fullness of time)

Anyone who has the 0 hands imported problem please do this:

Edit: Never mind - I've duplicated the problem (or at least one of the problems) by changing regional settings. Now I can work on the fix.

rvg

I have the exact same settings as you and get the 0 hands imported problem.

oh ok - thanks for letting me know. I'll still fix the problem I found because it affects anyone with different regional settings but I'll keep on looking for the 0 hands imported problem.

rvg

Hey rvg,

How long is it supposed to take to run an overall report(Report-Report Name: Overall results) on, say, a 230k hand database?

It takes me about 6 minutes to run this report with nothing else running on a v new machine..is this expected?

this will speed it up for you:

VACUUM ANALYZE

1) Start Menu - Programs - Postgre SQL 8.x - pgadmin III
2) Double click on the database server on the left and enter your password
3) In the Database list under that server make sure you select Holdem Manager
4) Select Tools -Query Tool in the menu
5) Type the following and then press F5: Vacuum Analyze PokerHands

(depending on size of DB this could take a few minutes)

And do:

Vacuum Analyze CompiledResults
Vacuum Analyze CompiledPlayerResults

to speed up the Players tab in a huge way

rvg

rvg,

instead of having "turn cbet%" i'd rather multiply "flop cbet%" and "turn cbet%" to get "%time player fires two streets (period)". same goes for "river cbet%" (flopcbet% * turncbet% * rivercbet%). since it'll eventually be in a hud i'd rather the # be something i can quickly glance at and use when multitabling.