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02-03-2012 , 06:04 AM
Request font type for notes be an option.

Would like to use fixed-width font since easier to tabulate data.

Thanks.
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02-03-2012 , 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by brinan
Request font type for notes be an option.

Would like to use fixed-width font since easier to tabulate data.

Thanks.
I'm afraid that's not possible since it's a standard dialog.
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02-03-2012 , 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by superfocus
HI is there anyway in the future to add the equity for the hands not in the filter so we can see how our equity fare vs the hands we fold out to find out how valuable our FE actually is. i know we can sort of do it by clicking the opposite of the filters but i think it might be easy and not hard to do to add a button that reverse all of our filters to see the hands we can chase out are actually worth while to do so
This is for Flopzilla, right?
I don't think I can let that option make the cut.
It's a fine suggestion but I need to set a cutoff limit somewhere, since otherwise the menu would become cluttered with options.

Also, for what it's worth, FE is not the equity versus the fold range.
It's the share of the pot you make by getting opponents to fold.
Anyhow, here's a more elaborate description of the term.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fold_equity
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02-03-2012 , 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by scylla
This is for Flopzilla, right?
I don't think I can let that option make the cut.
It's a fine suggestion but I need to set a cutoff limit somewhere, since otherwise the menu would become cluttered with options.

Also, for what it's worth, FE is not the equity versus the fold range.
It's the share of the pot you make by getting opponents to fold.
Anyhow, here's a more elaborate description of the term.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fold_equity
Actually this would make a fine addition to CREV.

You are right that FE is not the equity of the villians folding range but rather the equity gained by causing him to fold. CREV could, maybe show hands in your range that have decent FE against villains folding range and hands that have enogh SD equity to check against villians folding range.
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02-05-2012 , 08:14 AM
Say I input a complete preflop to river line and run the ev calc. I'm told that my flop play is -EV but that the turn and river plays are both +EV. Does that mean that my line from the flop onwards is -EV? Or is it just the flop play that's bad and the EV of the whole line could still be positive?
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02-05-2012 , 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Rooksx
Say I input a complete preflop to river line and run the ev calc. I'm told that my flop play is -EV but that the turn and river plays are both +EV. Does that mean that my line from the flop onwards is -EV? Or is it just the flop play that's bad and the EV of the whole line could still be positive?
The EV of the entire line is negative.
The fact that the turn+river are +EV is already incalculated into the flop EV.

For example, let's say you have a $100 stack and on the flop push in $99 with ace high. The push is very -EV. However, putting in your remaining $1 after that is massively +EV due to the bloated pot. But it still doesn't compensate for the bad flop decision.
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02-05-2012 , 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by scylla
The EV of the entire line is negative.
The fact that the turn+river are +EV is already incalculated into the flop EV.

For example, let's say you have a $100 stack and on the flop push in $99 with ace high. The push is very -EV. However, putting in your remaining $1 after that is massively +EV due to the bloated pot. But it still doesn't compensate for the bad flop decision.
Cool thanks
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02-11-2012 , 07:59 AM
theres a problem with importing hands from prima. I choose the HH from HM(1), and when I click holdem manager in the import it says error, when I click prima it kinda works but it screws up the betsizes. E.G I raised a turnbet from 24 to 60, now CREV says I raised to 84.
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02-11-2012 , 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by FatKing85
theres a problem with importing hands from prima. I choose the HH from HM(1), and when I click holdem manager in the import it says error, when I click prima it kinda works but it screws up the betsizes. E.G I raised a turnbet from 24 to 60, now CREV says I raised to 84.
Ok, it sounds like Prima changed their hh format then.
Could you please mail the HM1 hand and the Prima format to support please?
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02-13-2012 , 05:15 AM
Just a random thought/suggestion:

Why not let us key in our own estimated EV for lines that are not complete?

For example I might want to do a 3-bet/4-bet/5-bet calculation pre-flop, but at the same time I would be calling a certain % of the time. But given the complexity of the endless amount of possibility post-flop, I can just key in this is +2EV.
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02-13-2012 , 05:20 AM


I was wondering, given this scenario. Both my open and villains 3-bet are +EV(+1.35 and +0.12). What does that mean? Doesnt someone have to be losing in the long run given the same scenario again and again?
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02-13-2012 , 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Kitsune101
Just a random thought/suggestion:

Why not let us key in our own estimated EV for lines that are not complete?

For example I might want to do a 3-bet/4-bet/5-bet calculation pre-flop, but at the same time I would be calling a certain % of the time. But given the complexity of the endless amount of possibility post-flop, I can just key in this is +2EV.
I'll see what I can do.
It's tricky though, because I would need to prevent people being able to use this in tournament mode, since things works slightly differently there.

Last edited by scylla; 02-13-2012 at 08:17 AM.
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02-13-2012 , 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Kitsune101


I was wondering, given this scenario. Both my open and villains 3-bet are +EV(+1.35 and +0.12). What does that mean? Doesnt someone have to be losing in the long run given the same scenario again and again?
There's 1.50 in the pot, so your combined EVs should add up to 1.50.
Of course, in case you're using rake, the combined EVs will be slightly less than 1.50, since the remainder goes to rake. Like here where 1.35+0.12=1.47 goes to the players and 0.03 goes to rake.

Another example
Please also note that when SB raises to 100 the pot is 27. SB's EV is -7.07 and BB's EV is 32.12. 32.12-7.07=25.05. So apparently the remaining 1.95 goes to rake.

One more example; bit more complicated
When button raises to 18 however, you'll find that just adding the EV's does not yield the pot. This is because the scenerio where Button folds and sb wins the pot also needs to be included. So, here, SB's EV is calculated as follows: In 12% of the cases SB gets into a -7.07 spot. In the remaining 88% of the cases SB wins the 11 pot. So SB's total EV here is 12%*-7.07+88%*11=8.83. That makes the combined EV for Button and SB 1.93+8.83=10.76.
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02-24-2012 , 06:57 PM
Hi, Scylla!

My computer has been broken, and now i want to install flopzilla & cardrunners EV on another computer. Also, i need to add, that i have no access to my first computer, becase it's display crushe((

What i can do in this situation?

My previos hardware ID was 105A-087D-E9A4-9C72-8523-B770-7262-2FB4, my new hardware ID 1058-4E4B-5E3C-9DA0-7CBF-5794-48B4-36F8.

You can also e-mail me unnamedandreyka@gmail.com

Best wishes, Ivan.
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02-24-2012 , 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by sunny_flower
Hi, Scylla!

My computer has been broken, and now i want to install flopzilla & cardrunners EV on another computer. Also, i need to add, that i have no access to my first computer, becase it's display crushe((

What i can do in this situation?

My previos hardware ID was 105A-087D-E9A4-9C72-8523-B770-7262-2FB4, my new hardware ID 1058-4E4B-5E3C-9DA0-7CBF-5794-48B4-36F8.

You can also e-mail me unnamedandreyka@gmail.com

Best wishes, Ivan.
Hi Ivan,

Please mail your new hardware ID to support@cardrunners-ev-calculator.com from the adres from which you originally registered and you'll receive new keys within 24 hours.

Cheers,

Scylla
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02-25-2012 , 02:09 AM
any way to not put in hand(s) for players but rather an equity%? Say turn "ranges" are 70% v 30% equity?
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02-25-2012 , 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted by scylla
I'll see what I can do.
It's tricky though, because I would need to prevent people being able to use this in tournament mode, since things works slightly differently there.
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Originally Posted by Kitsune101
Just a random thought/suggestion:

Why not let us key in our own estimated EV for lines that are not complete?

For example I might want to do a 3-bet/4-bet/5-bet calculation pre-flop, but at the same time I would be calling a certain % of the time. But given the complexity of the endless amount of possibility post-flop, I can just key in this is +2EV.

+1 thanks for considering this, it will be very useful even if only for cash mode
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02-25-2012 , 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by gazavat
+1 thanks for considering this, it will be very useful even if only for cash mode
I think that one thing that wóuld work both in cash game mode ánd in tournament mode if, in a checkdown, the user could specify his equity in the pot. So if the pot is 10.000 and you want your EV to be 3.000 chips, you could make a checkdown where hero makes 30% of the pot.

That would be a lot more flexible I feel. Even if you make changes after the fact that change the pot. And it would work both for cash game mode ánd tournament mode.
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02-25-2012 , 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by czGLoRy
any way to not put in hand(s) for players but rather an equity%? Say turn "ranges" are 70% v 30% equity?
Well, currently you cán filter for the top X% EV wise. I think I could add the same for equity.
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02-25-2012 , 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by scylla
I think that one thing that wóuld work both in cash game mode ánd in tournament mode if, in a checkdown, the user could specify his equity in the pot. So if the pot is 10.000 and you want your EV to be 3.000 chips, you could make a checkdown where hero makes 30% of the pot.

That would be a lot more flexible I feel. Even if you make changes after the fact that change the pot. And it would work both for cash game mode ánd tournament mode.
That would work very nicely and will be an improvement on the current checkdown feature.
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02-25-2012 , 03:38 PM
would running cEV in a ramdisk make montecarlo sims run much faster?
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02-25-2012 , 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by AntiHer0
would running cEV in a ramdisk make montecarlo sims run much faster?
I .... don't know
Feel free to try.
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02-28-2012 , 02:45 AM
A cool feature to add would be to be able to add other active players to an already made game tree. So say I start a game tree and select Cutoff and BTN as the active players. I spend an hour or two on a model for 3betting BTN vs CO, but then realize I need to add in BB and SB's cold 4bet ranges or my model basically tells me very little. I would love a way to add in BB/SB after the fact (for some reason this scenario happens a lot to me lol)
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02-28-2012 , 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by scylla
I think that one thing that wóuld work both in cash game mode ánd in tournament mode if, in a checkdown, the user could specify his equity in the pot. So if the pot is 10.000 and you want your EV to be 3.000 chips, you could make a checkdown where hero makes 30% of the pot.

That would be a lot more flexible I feel. Even if you make changes after the fact that change the pot. And it would work both for cash game mode ánd tournament mode.
please give us the option to keep the checkdown as it is now as well if you implement this. I think its perfect as is. Its very easy to manually do what you are saying right now anyways. You just toggle equity and set the checkdown to the multiplier you need. So if you toggle for equties and it is 25%, but you want 30%, you just set the checkdown to 120%. Ez game
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02-28-2012 , 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by d2themfi
please give us the option to keep the checkdown as it is now as well if you implement this. I think its perfect as is. Its very easy to manually do what you are saying right now anyways. You just toggle equity and set the checkdown to the multiplier you need. So if you toggle for equties and it is 25%, but you want 30%, you just set the checkdown to 120%. Ez game
If I can manage the other checkdown option what I expect I'll be doing is add two radio buttons to let the user choose.
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