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11-19-2011 , 09:03 AM
OK great. Thanks again.
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11-20-2011 , 09:16 PM
is there a way to quickly deselect all suits that are not X suit?
Is there any way to quickly delete hands that don't meet certain criteria from range ?

(ie on filter, over "no made hand" delete all of those that dont have a draw)
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11-21-2011 , 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by czGLoRy
is there a way to quickly deselect all suits that are not X suit?
Go to the holecards section of the postflop menu and select the suits you want. Depending on what you're looking to do, you'll probably want to check either both holecards or Suited: Yes as well.


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Is there any way to quickly delete hands that don't meet certain criteria from range ?

(ie on filter, over "no made hand" delete all of those that dont have a draw)
There's no real need to delete anything there. Just accept the draws in your list of conditions and you're set. But if you really want to filter out some condition, give it a weight of 0% and place it on top of the list of conditions. Once the condition is accepted, it's rejected based on its weight, and the program immediately moves to the next action, skipping all conditions below it.
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11-21-2011 , 08:09 PM
The T&Cs on Poker Stars say that this software can't be used whilst playing. Why is this? It seems to cumbersome to use it whilst playing.
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11-22-2011 , 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by CONSPIR4CY
The T&Cs on Poker Stars say that this software can't be used whilst playing. Why is this? It seems to cumbersome to use it whilst playing.
I can't speak for PokerStars, but possibly they just added it without looking into it very closely.
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11-27-2011 , 06:57 PM
remind me Again scylla. can this be used for limit hold em?

do you think anyone can write a programme like this for plo?
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11-28-2011 , 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ralph cifaretto
remind me Again scylla. can this be used for limit hold em?
I haven't played limit for years now, but when using it for hand vs range I don't think the size of the trees will get too large. I know there's people who use it for limit. Also, I can certainly imagine there being tricks to simplify trees with some creativity.

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Originally Posted by ralph cifaretto
do you think anyone can write a programme like this for plo?
I doubt it. There's just so much going on in PLO with all the possible card combinations that it's going to be hard to define clear conditions that actually do what you want them to do.
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11-30-2011 , 03:56 PM
From the Holecard range popup how do I enter a range with only half combos of AA-TT?

I want to enter this range from Equilab which contains 55-99, TT-AA (half combos), 87s-KQs, A9s-AQs, Qts, KQo, AQo:

88-66, AdAh, AdAs, KhKs, QhQs, QhQc, QsQc, JdJs, JdJc, ThTs, ThTc, TsTc, 9h9s, 9h9c, 9s9c, 5s5c, QTs, 87s, 76s, AdQd, AhQh, AsQs, KdQd, KhQh, KsQs, AdJd, AsJs, QdJd, QsJs, QcJc, AdTd, AhTh, AsTs, JdTd, JsTs, JcTc, Ah9h, As9s, Th9h, Ts9s, Tc9c, 9h8h, 9s8s, 9c8c, AdQh, AdQs, AdQc, AhQd, AhQs, AhQc, AsQd, AsQh, AsQc, KdQh, KdQs, KdQc, KhQd, KhQs, KhQc, KsQd, KsQh, KsQc

When I copy this range into the Text Input/Output it converts it to full combos of TT-AA...
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11-30-2011 , 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by cassette
From the Holecard range popup how do I enter a range with only half combos of AA-TT?

I want to enter this range from Equilab which contains 55-99, TT-AA (half combos), 87s-KQs, A9s-AQs, Qts, KQo, AQo:

88-66, AdAh, AdAs, KhKs, QhQs, QhQc, QsQc, JdJs, JdJc, ThTs, ThTc, TsTc, 9h9s, 9h9c, 9s9c, 5s5c, QTs, 87s, 76s, AdQd, AhQh, AsQs, KdQd, KhQh, KsQs, AdJd, AsJs, QdJd, QsJs, QcJc, AdTd, AhTh, AsTs, JdTd, JsTs, JcTc, Ah9h, As9s, Th9h, Ts9s, Tc9c, 9h8h, 9s8s, 9c8c, AdQh, AdQs, AdQc, AhQd, AhQs, AhQc, AsQd, AsQh, AsQc, KdQh, KdQs, KdQc, KhQd, KhQs, KhQc, KsQd, KsQh, KsQc

When I copy this range into the Text Input/Output it converts it to full combos of TT-AA...
The preflop menu does not accept suits since filtering for suits only happens postflop. The postflop menu doés accept separate suits though in the "holecards" tab. You can enter the string by clicking the "range" button there.

I did however just notice that the spaces between the hands was something I've neglected to take into account. I'll fix that for future releases. So ... for now you'll need to remove the spaces in order for that string to be accepted.
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12-01-2011 , 12:09 PM
Thanks for the quick an informative reply.

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The preflop menu does not accept suits since filtering for suits only happens postflop.
Is this on purpose? There is no way to have a player 4 bet big pairs X% of the time and call the raise Y%?
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12-01-2011 , 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by cassette
There is no way to have a player 4 bet big pairs X% of the time and call the raise Y%?
Sure there is.
Just add a weight to the condition with the button that says 100%.
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12-02-2011 , 07:48 PM
release a "get it free" program for this please, like deposit onto site with your code to get it free
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12-04-2011 , 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu_the_kid_Ungar
Hi

Just a quick bump for ranges to be defined as they are in flopzilla (allowing user to build ranges from a subset of user predefined ranges)

Best wishes
Thought Id bump this
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12-04-2011 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by StuZero
Thought Id bump this
Working on this, but it will take quite a while.
It will be there though.
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12-04-2011 , 09:08 PM
really interested in this program, tried the trial and I am severely disappointed. I wanted to analyze a BU vs. blinds 3betting situation where no pf call occurs, but I couldn't do this due to too many decision trees. I thought alright, perhaps I can try out the full version for like a week like basically every other poker software does, but no help their. Ok than, let's make a incredibly simple SB vs. BB situation where no calling happens. Yet I cannot calculate the ev of the situation. I press calculate and it runs trials. It also says no end of hand found, look at the image, has it there no end of hands? There's also a bunch of other awkward things to this program. So I'm not going to buy this program, even though I really want to be able to do these sorts of calculations, because frankly it seems dodgy. Will revert to pen and paper instead.


here's the image of my decision tree
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12-04-2011 , 09:27 PM
Where the SB is highlighted in red you either need to add a fold condition or change the range to "all hands"
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12-04-2011 , 09:34 PM
tyvm
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12-05-2011 , 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by pat3392
release a "get it free" program for this please, like deposit onto site with your code to get it free
I'm having trouble verbalizing why, but I don't feel comfortable with that.

Edit: Oh wait, I'm trying to keep my site commercial free. No flashy banners. I think that's it.

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I thought alright, perhaps I can try out the full version for like a week like basically every other poker software does
As far as my experience goes, most poker software does not offer fully functional trials. The ones that do are cracked very quickly. It's a weak point of attack.

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Ok than, let's make a incredibly simple SB vs. BB situation where no calling happens. Yet I cannot calculate the ev of the situation. I press calculate and it runs trials. It also says no end of hand found, look at the image, has it there no end of hands?
I'll add some more instructions to that error message to make it more clear what to do when this happens. I'm also currently working on a number of interface improvements that will hopefully make it easier for new users to learn to work with the program. But in the end, this software requires some time to get the hang of. Which is why it's an infinite trial (with functional limits).

Last edited by scylla; 12-05-2011 at 06:55 AM.
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12-05-2011 , 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by scylla
I'm having trouble verbalizing why, but I don't feel comfortable with that.

Edit: Oh wait, I'm trying to keep my site commercial free. No flashy banners. I think that's it.


As far as my experience goes, most poker software does not offer fully functional trials. The ones that do are cracked very quickly. It's a weak point of attack.
No banners here and looks professional http://www.holdemmanager.com/store/poker-sites.php

seriously myself and others I know would jump at the opportunity for something like this, $100 is more than the tracking softwares after all


I seriously think every program for poker I've tried have had a free trial. SnG Wizard, PT3/HM1/2, propokertools. But fair enough reason nonetheless, but I would imagine people would be more eager to pay $100 if they gained something from using it, instead of spending a wee bit of time figuring it out, only to not let one see any result because it runs out of decision trees quite quickly. It does demonstrate what it can do but, more flexibility would increase sales initially for sure, but if people could crack it easier than eh your
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12-05-2011 , 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by pat3392

I seriously think every program for poker I've tried have had a free trial. SnG Wizard, PT3/HM1/2, propokertools. But fair enough reason nonetheless, but I would imagine people would be more eager to pay $100 if they gained something from using it, instead of spending a wee bit of time figuring it out, only to not let one see any result because it runs out of decision trees quite quickly. It does demonstrate what it can do but, more flexibility would increase sales initially for sure, but if people could crack it easier than eh your
I think the trial is fine as is.

Regardless of the limitations in the number of decision trees, would you say you understood the jist of what this program does?

If so, the trial works perfectly.

If not then what is it you dont understand?
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12-05-2011 , 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by StuZero
I think the trial is fine as is.

Regardless of the limitations in the number of decision trees, would you say you understood the jist of what this program does?

If so, the trial works perfectly.

If not then what is it you dont understand?
def understand the jist of it, but it's somewhat uncertain just how valuable it is, I remember awhile ago I checked it out and didn't buy it due to uncertainty. Trial is probably fine though, does give jist
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12-05-2011 , 10:22 PM
Hey,

not sure if someone else asked this before me (this thread is to long for me :P)

but is there a way to import hands from hem2 to cardrunners ev?

couldn't find it until now,with hem1 i was able to copy&paste the history from hem1 to cardrunnersev,but didn't find this option in hm2
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12-06-2011 , 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Pronto
Hey,

not sure if someone else asked this before me (this thread is to long for me :P)

but is there a way to import hands from hem2 to cardrunners ev?

couldn't find it until now,with hem1 i was able to copy&paste the history from hem1 to cardrunnersev,but didn't find this option in hm2
Yes ... I can't find the text export function anymore either.
There's a lot of formats, but not the old one.
I'll ask them and otherwise I'll just have to write a new import function.
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12-06-2011 , 06:52 AM
If I buy flopzilla/cardrunners EV and end up formatting my laptop and putting a different operating system(XP in a virtual machine on a linux distribution) will the hardware code thingo for the registration still work?
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12-06-2011 , 08:35 AM
Hi scylla.
Great software, I LOVE to play around with it.
I'm having some problems however with examining complex scenarios that require very large trees.
The results in sub branches that are very rarely reached (about once every 100,000 hands or less) are pretty inaccurate.
If I run the same calculation twice in are row, the results for these rarely reached sub branches fluctuate quite heavily,
even if I let the software make 100 million simulations per calculation.
I feel I could get much more accurate results by increasing the number of simulations.
But the software does only allow for a maximum of 100 million simulations. Why is that?
I'd be happy if you could remove that restriction.
I'd like to do 1 billion or 10 billion simulations or maybe even more because why not.
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