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01-05-2020 , 03:32 AM
cardrunnersev website down?
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01-05-2020 , 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Lupin III
cardrunnersev website down?
No, from what I can tell, all our websites are up.
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01-06-2020 , 02:11 AM
Hey Scylla,i know you are focussing more on the development of GTO+ rather than CREV. However if i wished for one update of CREV it would be the possibility to copy filtered flopzillapro postflop ranges into CREV to perform postflop calculations.
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01-06-2020 , 03:42 AM
What are PC requirements for GTO+ to function adequately. I have Dell XPS 8GB Ram?

Do you sell training packs to play against solutions( like they have for Simple GTO Trainer).
How would you compare"play against solution" vs Simple GTO Trainer?
I use free Equilab so what advantages Flopzila Pro would add in combination with GTO+?

Thanks
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01-06-2020 , 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Giozinhzo123
Hey Scylla,i know you are focussing more on the development of GTO+ rather than CREV. However if i wished for one update of CREV it would be the possibility to copy filtered flopzillapro postflop ranges into CREV to perform postflop calculations.
Ok, I will see what I can do for future releases.
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01-06-2020 , 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by stumbras
What are PC requirements for GTO+ to function adequately. I have Dell XPS 8GB Ram?
Please go here for the system requirements: www.gtoplus.com/download


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Originally Posted by stumbras
Do you sell training packs to play against solutions( like they have for Simple GTO Trainer).
It's probably better if you create your own databases for spots that you'd like to train.


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Originally Posted by stumbras
How would you compare"play against solution" vs Simple GTO Trainer?
This is probably a comparison that you should make for yourself.


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Originally Posted by stumbras
I use free Equilab so what advantages Flopzila Pro would add in combination with GTO+?
I don't really have the time available to me to make comparisons between products. What I can offer you is a list of the available features: www.flopzilla.com/flopzillapro.html, as well as a demonstration video. One advantage that I feel I should point out is that Flopzilla can perform calculations nearly instantly whenever any chance is made, and can even enumerate 3-way postflop spots in a fraction of a second.
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01-06-2020 , 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by scylla
Please go here for the system requirements: www.gtoplus.com/download




It's probably better if you create your own databases for spots that you'd like to train.




This is probably a comparison that you should make for yourself.




I don't really have the time available to me to make comparisons between products. What I can offer you is a list of the available features: www.flopzilla.com/flopzillapro.html, as well as a demonstration video. One advantage that I feel I should point out is that Flopzilla can perform calculations nearly instantly whenever any chance is made, and can even enumerate 3-way postflop spots in a fraction of a second.

Cool decided to buy GTO+ and FlopzilaPro combo - any discounts combos?
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01-07-2020 , 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by stumbras
Cool decided to buy GTO+ and FlopzilaPro combo - any discounts combos?
GTO+ and FlopzillaPro are sold separately; there are no additional discounts.
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01-07-2020 , 07:59 AM
Whenever I create a database using the flop subsets (import from file), I am not able to add other trees to it. I would like to create a database of 20 flops, 19 of them being the subset and one of my choice. Is there an easy way to do it?
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01-07-2020 , 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by alkaatch
Whenever I create a database using the flop subsets (import from file), I am not able to add other trees to it. I would like to create a database of 20 flops, 19 of them being the subset and one of my choice. Is there an easy way to do it?
Subsets are already perfectly balanced.
Adding more flops to them will make them (far) less accurate.
It's for this reason that it's not possible to add more flops to a subset.
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01-08-2020 , 02:20 PM
Hello. If I lock villian strategy I cant use "Play against solution" option. Can you add this feature?
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01-08-2020 , 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 0ri0n
Hello. If I lock villian strategy I cant use "Play against solution" option. Can you add this feature?
"Play against the solution" will only work for solved trees.
So after locking+editing the strategy, run the solver again.
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01-08-2020 , 09:06 PM
Hi, sorry if this is a silly question but I've just bought GTO+ and CREV.

Which product would be best to analyse a specific decision. For example, facing a turn bet would it better to raise, call or fold with a specific hand. Is there a tutorial for this or can somebody briefly explain please?

Is there a way of seeing optimal bet sizings on a given board with my whole range?
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01-09-2020 , 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by avro_504
Hi, sorry if this is a silly question but I've just bought GTO+ and CREV.

Which product would be best to analyse a specific decision. For example, facing a turn bet would it better to raise, call or fold with a specific hand. Is there a tutorial for this or can somebody briefly explain please?
It's probably best to use GTO+ for this, given that this is where most of our development is focussed. Check the distribution in the table to see which actions are recommended for each hand.





It's also possible to play against the solution in order to gain a more intuitive understanding of the strategies.
For that, watch the video here: https://youtu.be/YuRsCQajRBA



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Originally Posted by avro_504
Is there a way of seeing optimal bet sizings on a given board with my whole range?
In GTO there's no such thing as optimal bet sizes. Any bet size will perform almost identically to any other bet size. You can check this for yourself by creating the same tree, but for different bet sizes. After that, check OOP's overall performance (the EV below the table in his very first decision). As you'll notice, his overall performance will be almost identical, regardless of which bet size is used.

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01-09-2020 , 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by scylla
It's probably best to use GTO+ for this, given that this is where most of our development is focussed. Check the distribution in the table to see which actions are recommended for each hand.





It's also possible to play against the solution in order to gain a more intuitive understanding of the strategies.
For that, watch the video here: https://youtu.be/YuRsCQajRBA





In GTO there's no such thing as optimal bet sizes. Any bet size will perform almost identically to any other bet size. You can check this for yourself by creating the same tree, but for different bet sizes. After that, check OOP's overall performance (the EV below the table in his very first decision). As you'll notice, his overall performance will be almost identical, regardless of which bet size is used.



Thanks, Scylla.

Out of curiosity, is there any good guides/tutorials for getting as much out of GTO+ as possible?

So if I wanted to analyse a set spot I would build the tree using custom flop, turn and river and then run the solver to see optimal strategies for my whole range?
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01-10-2020 , 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by avro_504
So if I wanted to analyse a set spot I would build the tree using custom flop, turn and river and then run the solver to see optimal strategies for my whole range?
We offer instructional videos on our website: www.gtoplus.com/videos
Other than that, if you look on YouTube, you'll find several videos from third parties.


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Originally Posted by avro_504
So if I wanted to analyse a set spot I would build the tree using custom flop, turn and river and then run the solver to see optimal strategies for my whole range?
Yes, just set up a spot by building a relevant tree. After that, fill in any play for villain as far as you feel that you're confident about his play. Leave everything else blank. Then, run the solver to let it figure out optimal play for all remaining spots.
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01-10-2020 , 04:58 AM
Would it be possible at some point to add something within the software to manage all our saved databases/trees? Maybe there's already a better way to do it - I've been using long descriptive file names and/or lots of folders/subfolders to try to organise everything but it's still quite cluttered.

I was thinking maybe using metadata, like how music files use tags? Then maybe a way to search your solved files for specific tags. No idea if that's even possible.
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01-10-2020 , 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by scylla
We offer instructional videos on our website: www.gtoplus.com/videos

Other than that, if you look on YouTube, you'll find several videos from third parties.









Yes, just set up a spot by building a relevant tree. After that, fill in any play for villain as far as you feel that you're confident about his play. Leave everything else blank. Then, run the solver to let it figure out optimal play for all remaining spots.


Thanks Scylla!
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01-10-2020 , 10:56 AM
I'm sure this has been asked before, but can we set bet sizings in the tree using bb's instead of percents. I know I can do that in the tree editor. Also, is there a way to save a tree that was modified in the tree editor?
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01-10-2020 , 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by The Imp
Would it be possible at some point to add something within the software to manage all our saved databases/trees? Maybe there's already a better way to do it - I've been using long descriptive file names and/or lots of folders/subfolders to try to organise everything but it's still quite cluttered.

I was thinking maybe using metadata, like how music files use tags? Then maybe a way to search your solved files for specific tags. No idea if that's even possible.
Ok, I will consider it for later releases.
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01-10-2020 , 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by jaym99
I'm sure this has been asked before, but can we set bet sizings in the tree using bb's instead of percents. I know I can do that in the tree editor.
This isn't possible, given that it needs to work for different sizes of the pot.

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Also, is there a way to save a tree that was modified in the tree editor?
For this, just press Ctrl+S or go to "File->Save as ...".
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01-10-2020 , 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by scylla
This isn't possible, given that it needs to work for different sizes of the pot.



For this, just press Ctrl+S or go to "File->Save as ...".
Ok, it's easy enough to handle in the tree editor. I do think that a lot of spins and HU players would like to be able to put bet sizes in bb though. At least I would.
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01-11-2020 , 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by jaym99
Ok, it's easy enough to handle in the tree editor. I do think that a lot of spins and HU players would like to be able to put bet sizes in bb though. At least I would.
When you're using the tree editor, you're editing one single spot.
When you're using the tree builder, it will apply to multiple spots, some of which may have a different pot size.
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01-11-2020 , 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by jaym99
Ok, it's easy enough to handle in the tree editor. I do think that a lot of spins and HU players would like to be able to put bet sizes in bb though. At least I would.


This would be great. It would make building trees much quicker instead of having to convert bet sizing into pot percentages.
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01-11-2020 , 01:21 PM
Hey scylla,

Could you add the 2 different display methods for ranges to the Starting ranges editor? I like display method 2 a lot more.
I'm talking about this thing here:


Thanks
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