Thanks for update. Now i have access to data, still it scrolls down only background instead data/graph - probably only my pc/settings problem. Not important for me anymore, have access to data.

The problem is not with your pc.
It's a small bug in the software.
I think I'll add a scroll bar for future versions in case the window gets too large vertically.

Aaaah I've just seen the arrow next to run script to go line by line. 10000 Times easier now, I was surprised it was not here.

A couple of suggestions Scylla: I'd love to be able to print when scripting (into a txt maybe). It helps when debugging.
Also, would be nice if the script window (http://i.imgur.com/J4BFlRQ.png) can be made bigger when running the script because if you have multiple vars I can't see some of them. Unless there's a way and I haven't seen it

Also, is it possible to store more info? Would be awesome to have 'arrays'. For instance, I want to store the EV of SB, the EV of BB, and the range for SB and BB. As far as I understand, with datapoints I can only save two of these, right? Will try to use add 2d data point but with arrays everything would be so much more simple.

Thanks!

Hi,

Maybe somebody can spot where I'm mistaken?



The EV for 3betting with 28% of the hands is 0.71.
If I 3bet larger, EV is larger.
If I 3bet smaller, 3bet is smaller. Thus, the EV of 3betting turns out to be completely lineal (the bigger the range we 3bet, the bigger the EV). However, this doesn't make sense. According to this, 3betting 100% of the times would be the most profitable option.

I can't spot my mistake. If I manually increase the 3bet, the EV increases. It shouldn't be like that (at least until certain point, but 3betting 50% is definetely not better than 3betting 20% for instance).

Can anybody see where my mistake is? Why don't I reach a point with this tree that the EV of 3betting starts becoming smaller because the 3bet range is too wide?

Thanks!

PS: And yes, scroll for the datapoints please, sometimes I can't see everything

SB's raise to 17 option is empty for some reason.
The same applies to his call action.
That means that currently SB folds 100% of the time to the 3bet.
Because of this, 3-betting should simply be done with "all hands"

Do you remember how you managed to do this?
It shouldn't be possible at all to perform actions with an empty condition.
Have you possibly run some sort of script that caused conditions to be empty?
I've tried for a bit now to create empty preflop conditions, but I can't seem to get it done.

Yes, it's a new option in v2.9.0.
One feature that may not be completely obvious in debugging though is the option to set a breakpoint.
For that, right-click a line of code.
The script will pause when it reaches that line.

I still need to make a short video about that.

In a sense you can keep track of your results by making a graph.

Yes, this is indeed a minor interface issue.
There's quite a few ways in which all variables could be displayed (bigger window, extra tab, display them as text below script window, etc).
I just need to decide on what method to use.
All of the information is there, and it's not hard technically; it's just an interface decision I haven't made yet.

Isn't a 2D graph just basically an array?
Storing ranges is hard no matter what because they can't be displayed easily.

I just updated the software and lost my custom "multi-conditions" for postflop.
Any idea if I can get still get them back?

I think that may actually an oversight on my part.
Could you zip your subdirectory /conditions and mail it to support please?

Sorry, that pict was edited I didn't realise.

The original one is:



Can you spot something wrong here?

EDIT: SB 4bet is optimal (found by script)
EDIT2: If everything remains the same but BB 3bets a wider range, EV for BB will be higher and higher. But there has to be a point where EV starts to go down... But it doesn't happen. Can't figure out the problem with the tree.

Yeah I saw it as well. They are actually superhelpful, thanks

In that case I'll probably need to see a savefile.
Please mail it to support.

Hey Scylla, in the conditions menu, could you put in a feature to select specific holecards in graphical interface? For example, if a range is AA-TT, but we only want QQ+ to continue on a certain flop, there would be a way to select just those hands out of the current range, in the same way as the preflop menu?

This would be great.

DeluxeSamy - I think BB should defend much wider vs SB 62,5% range.

Yes, this will indeed be included.
I just haven't gotten to it yet.

Hi-
Still have the same issue with regards to setting relevant numbers for Checkdown actions.
Since estimating equity realization seems hard, I thought I could filter for the situation into my database and look at the pot winrate %.
Example: I filter for BB faces BTN open and call preflop: N situations.
Then i would add an extra condition "Hero won hand": n situations.

Pot winrate = n/N.
Now, I got very high numbers - 50% for the above situation for example.
Do you know if this method makes sense or not?

Thanks,
Ben

You mean Button steals, SB calls and then the action is on BB?
That sounds like you might still be including 3bets from BB here.

You should probably just take a look at a couple of hands and check if they are indeed what you think they are.

Hey Scylla
No I meant BTN opens, SB folds and BB faces the BTN steal.
I want to set up strategies for BB but without going into much details for the postflop game, hence I use the checkdown action:


What do you mean?

I imported my Flopzilla ranges into CREV, but now I am unable to store new ranges?

In the postflop conditions list, is it possible to select a specific pocket pair that does NOT contain a backdoor flush draw? ie. HC: pp+value(A) + !bckdr fd ?

If you want to do this, then I would indeed filter for the hands that apply to those conditions. After that however, I wouldn't use the win% but I'd try to figure out how much bb hero wins on average after the flop has been dealt (the win% would probably be a lot easier though). Then I'd figure out how the number of bb's won would relate to the size of the pot. For example, if hero wins 4 bets out of a 6 bb pot, I'd assign him a checkdown % of 4/6*100%=67% of the pot.

One thing to look out for here though is the bet size of villain. If villain minraises then the size of the pot would be ~4.5bb. And if he raises 3.5bb then the size of the pot will be 7.5bb. So you would need to filter for the preflop raise size as well if you want to accurately get a % of the pot.


PS:
Please note that HEM measures the wins/losses from the start of the hand. So for example folding in the big blind is measured as -1bb. And calling a 3bb raise and folding the flop is considered -3bb.

PPS:
Just using hero's winrate is probably much much easier and almost as good as the method above. However, if you bluff a lot in attempts to win the pot using hero's winrate will be an overestimation (because when you win you win small, but when you lose, you lose big) and vice versa.


I misunderstood your original question.
What I meant was that after you have filtered for your intended hands, it's probably a good idea to look at a couple of them at random to double-check if you have indeed set your filters correctly.

Yes, I'm getting the same thing.
Clearly a bug.
I'll post a fix in the next release.

Thank you for the feedback!

Typically, you should order your hands+actions from strong to weak. So by the time you get to "HC: pp+value(A) + !bckdr fd" you should already have treated "HC: pp+value(A) + bckdr fd". Should this not be the case though, then you could simply add a condition "HC: pp+value(A) + bckdr fd" on top of a "HC: pp+value(A)" condition and give it a weight of 0%. You have now filtered out all bdfd AA's.

Glad to help.

This is what I was looking for, ty

Hi,

I have a problem with latest beta. In the holecard range, I have some saved ranges but when I click on the"+" nothing happens. I can't open the tree?

I have reinstalled just in case, but same thing. any idea?