Overclocking will give higher performance, although on some systems it seems to lead to unstable performance.
I don't know whether or not this is a common occurrence; overclocking has always seemed to work perfectly fine on all systems that I've ever tested on.

i see, that makes a lot of sense

one last thing, do you have any spec recommendations?

i think im gonna go with ryzen5 6 cores/12 threads + 16gb RAM, will that be good enough for almost all realistic postflop spots?

In my personal opinion a 6 core CPU should lead to perfectly satisfactory performance, although this is of course subjective.

Turn hand strat overlaps river sizings %.

There is also an overlap when you have 3+ sizings and hover over the combo.

Could you add the ability to display a "backdoor straight draw" at the settings. And "backdoor street + backdoor fd."

I can consider adding it for future releases.
A problem there though is that nearly every hand is a backdoor straight draw.
For example, T9 on a 832 board is a backdoor straight draw, but so is 73 on a JT2 board.
So it's a really thin draw, that applies to most hands.

Can you try using the new "Compact" tree navigator?
You may need to upgrade to the latest version, given that this feature is a fairly recent addition.

Hey Scylla, I'm currently trying to run some 111 flops database sims for SRPs BTN vs BB with multiple sizes. The problem is the trees I use typically run out of memory on certain flops in the database. I keep trimming it down, but unfortunately the problem flops come up more than halfway through the db. I'm thus wondering if it's possible to alter the trees for certain flops? For instance, I've made some mods to the tree now, but 47 flops in I don't want to have to recalculate all of these and would rather just have the old tree.

What would be the easiest way to do this (if possible)? Should I make a new db file, update the trees, export the flops, delete the ones that are already solved, and then merge all of them with the original db file?

A database can indeed require a substantial amount of RAM if "Extensive" storage is used.
To get around this, you can export the database into its separate trees, solve those trees, and then merge the trees together again into a database.
Go here for instructions: https://www.gtoplus.com/processingdatabase/

Hi Scylla, I'm just having a discussion about the max-exploit capabilities of GTO+. In CREV there was a possibility to calculate a max-exploit strategy and in GTO+ there is not. My assumption is that if we do node locking on our opponent then the calculated GTO solution will be equal to the max-exploit solution, is this true? For example, in my experience, the GTO solution will bet any2 if the opponent overfolds in a spot.

https://jumbomail.me/j/3YYYW5a_A0yr9O_


If you go to the "Edit tree" tab in this file and try to delete size 35. GTO+ crashes.

It's not possible to gain EV by performing max exploit on a perfect GTO solution.
So, when performing max exploit, the GTO solution would simply be one of the possible outcomes.

Ok, thank you.
I have fixed this for v148.
For the moment, in your savefile, if you load the tree with "IMPORT TREE" and edit it, it won't crash after clicking "ACCEPT CHANGES".
The problem is just with an internal setting in the tree that is currently active in the editor.

I mean when we use the node lock option and make one player deviate from the GTO solution, e.g. let him overfold in a certain spot such that the other player has auto-profit when he bets with whatever holding. If we then resolve, the newly calculated GTO solution corresponds to the max exploit strategy for the player whose node is not locked, am I right?

Yes, provided that you have locked all of villain's decisions, including all play on the turn and river for all possible board runouts.

Hi Scylla,

i´m playing around with the icm feature, but i´m not sure if it works right or if i did any mistake at some point... Maybe someone can tell me if this solver output makes sense?

setup:


Flop play:

IP (shorter stack) overbets 100%



OOP folds 0%



Turn play:

OOP donks 100%



IP Calls 100%

This can´t be a good solution. Did i make a mistake at any point?

Can you send a savefile to support?
I can't really tell from the screenshots.

Hi, scylla!

Got weird ev graph


It is normal, if i recalculate the same tree with 0% (ai) branch removed. Is it bug or not?

Also, it is not possible to reopen already opened file to discard changes, nothing happens. Expected behavior: program warns about changes made, then refresh session from disk.

That shouldn't happen, but I see where the problem is.
It's related to a new feature in v147.
Today is my day off, but I'll post a fix tomorrow.

This is not on our end, but a property of Windows.
When you have a file open, it's not possible to open that file again.
This applies to us, and any other program.
For example, Word and Excel have this property as well.

Good news!

Hmm... Not exactly! Word, Excel, then they open different file, do it in separate window. In turn, GTO+ has "replace current info" open semantics, like notepad.

On my own systems, when using Word/Excel/other, when I:
1) Open a savefile
2) Make some changes
3) Open the same savefile again
nothing will happen; the savefile will not be loaded.
Are you perhaps referring to some other method for opening a file?

But if you in step 3 open OTHER file, it will not harm current changed data, separate window will be opened. This way in Word/Excel you never expect "Open" function to affect current data.
In GTO+ if you open OTHER file - it closes current edit session. Thus i expect it will do so with the same file too. Like in notepad.exe

Hi Scylla,

I encountered some weird stuff with the tree builder:

I have in the code field B1MG15 if that matters.

First I built a tree with no flop donk (0) and 25,50,100,200 sizes for all positions for betting and 3,5x for raising.
It worked out all good, I got my tree. Then I just modified the flop bet to g3, worked well too, but when I try to modify anything in the turn or river betting sizes it always stays the same (25,50,100,200). I even completely restarted gtoplus but I still got the same sizes for turn and river. I can still change the flopsizes the way I want, but just the flop. What could be the problem?
Thanks!