- Please make the sunday tournament a second chance tournament without the option to add-on!
OR just a plain freezeout.

Would like to see a "time" button. Also, not a big deal, but "table" options as far as looks.

+1

Turn the tourney back to a freezeout. As a freezeout you had 300-400+ runners getting ~20K prize pool. Everleaf was also raking ~400 x 5 = $2000

Now that it turned into a $50 cubed (1R+1A), there were 140 runners and just slightly above the guarantee ($11.5K) and Everleaf raked 140 x $5 = $700.

Switch it back to a freezeout, you rake more and the prize pool are larger! Or at the very least, alternate it weekly. One week freezeout, the next week a cubed (1R + 1A) event and then you'll be able to see the difference.

*Please don't say you have no control. The $10K Was a freezeout for over 15 months, then a month after Victory goes live, seemingly changed to a cubed tourney.

Well said.

Can you improve the points system?
There is nothing to do with points I would never waste my time playing in a 50 dollar tourney for 10 points. Can you make tourneys that have a buy in of 1,000 or 2,000 points and bigger payouts?

This week 101 Runners ($505 Rake). But after rebuys (35) and addons (38), the generated prize pool was only $8700. Luckily there is a $10K Guarantee and $800 in actual overlay. As much as I like overlay, I rather have this tourney as a freezeout.

agreed

Overall I like the site, but I think its kinda hard to multi table. When you tile the tables, the tables are kinda small and hard to see stacks/cards. When you cascade tables sometimes the tables don't pop up and let you know its your turn to act.

+1

Look like the $15k grtd is going to be cancelled.

- Seriously, if you can't see the point in having the 10 or 15 seats grtd rebuy satelites, something is seriously wrong at the manegment end!

I for one am seriously thinking about boycotting the network untill you fix the tournament schedule!

How could it be A+ while you were even smaller then now, and after the player base 4x'es the tournament schedule goes down the drain?

It just doesn't make any sence at all!

hmm i just tiltet some $$$$ away, so i guess i might as well start my boycot now, to avoid pissing more away!

- Please fix the tournament schedule asap!

In another thread someone on the Victory Poker team recently requested to hear more suggestions, so I thought I would oblige. VP has some good things going for them, but you really need to get after these major issues ASAP if you are going to compete in the competitive industry.

Several Issues listed below (some already mentioned in thread):


Poor table resolution/blurry. Most players that don’t multi-table will immediately expand the poker table window to fit their screen. Doing this makes the poker room graphics look really bad and out of focus. The cards get terribly blurry and selecting other cards from the options menu doesn’t help. Increase the resolution. Fixing the card resolution alone is more important than anything else. Hopefully that isn’t too difficult. Both Standard and Classic cards need much better resolution.

Software slowrolls losing players. When a player is called or players check around on river, software times down several seconds (i.e., looks like villain will muck) before villain winnings cards are finally flipped and he is shipped the pot.

High Rake vs Industry. These high rake discrepancies with the industry norm (e.g., 5 Euro Max, lack of proper rake break with less players, and high micro stakes rake, etc) are giving Victory a bad name. I know you may be at the mercy of Everleaf, but you must stay on them. Overcharging customers is just bad for business and player loyalty. Plus why are you displaying the rake amount taken from each pot? None of your competitors in the industry shows that. It is even in VP’s hand history. Why charge more and show everyone?

Delay in Bankroll Display in Lobby. In cashier window of lobby, do practice chips and real bankroll have to alternate? Once becoming a real money player, who cares about “practice chips”? It tilts me immensely having to wait 10-15 seconds to see what my real money balance is while practice chip balance is displayed. Show them both or let players choose.

Open Seat. To sit down in an “open seat” allow clicking on the avatar itself to sit down/reserve seat. Every time I click on the empty avatar itself which does nothing. Just kinda tilts me. To sit players need to click on the sign that says “open seat” instead of the actual open seat. Just saying, make it so you can click either.

Hand history is lost from disconnect. Major flaw here in my opinion. If player gets disconnected mid-hand, once reconnected hand is missing from hand history. Basically the visual hand history only displays what the player sees. I recently pushed all-in pre-flop, got disconnected, returned to see I got stacked. No idea who called me or how I lost. Hand completely missing from hand history.

Autopost blind unselects from disconnect. When players gets disconnected, software immediately unchecks the “auto post blinds” button. Players don’t even have to be disconnected for a long period of time or involved in any hand when disconnected. When internet connection gets bad, every time around the table I need to re-check the auto-post blinds. Frustrating.

If the Victory Poker team can get these cleaned up, you greatly increase your chance of success. Good luck!

Crockme,

We're listening! Some of these issues have been addressed, but I will immediately send your suggestions to Everleaf. Thank you for putting the time in to write out your thoughts so clearly.

Cheers

Crockme,

ALL sites tell you how much rake they are taking. Most of them record it in the HH. Everleaf, however, does not record it in the HH. (I know, because I maintain the module that interprets everleaf HH data for FPDB .. ) [if this is new within the last 3 weeks, excuse that I said that, because it didn't as of three weeks ago, when I last had to work on it .. ] Any site that did not have a clear and obvious display of what is coming out of the pot for rake, is absolutely not getting any business from anyone that cares one bit about the rake. (as well as the fact that EUR tables are going gangbusters on Everleaf, seems to indicate that the vast majority of players there don't care about it, either)



The "high rake" problem is particular to the Euro games. Play some USD games.

Although I would very much like to have the "Play Chips" removed from the main lobby window, you can easily switch between the displays - click within the area that shows the cashier info, but not on the refresh button, and it will switch to whichever view it's not in. (I'd also like to have that area updated on the fly, to include money that is in play [either seperately or together with money that is not in play, i don't care really] ..)

1) Bring back the value to the network!:

After Victory pokers appearence on the network the following has happened:

- The sunday $10k grtd freezeout is not a rebuy tournament.
- The $4k grtd daily rebuy is gone, a new $5k grtd tournament is running 3 times per week instead. (mon, wed, fri.)
- The super satelites is gone, now there's ordinary satelites with no grtd seats!
- The monthly 8k rake race has been cut to 50% of the normal value = $4k monthly rake races.

- The point satelites is gone...
- The one table point satelites is gone as well.
- The starting time of the sunday grtd and $5k grtd tournament is now one hour later then normal! (more about this below.)

2) Please fix the autofocus problem.

3) Please re-instate the daily $4k grtd tournament, or atleast change the days bi-weekly, so it's monday, wednesday, friday one week and thuesday, thursday, saturday the next week.

4) The tournament start times have been moved for both the sunday grtd. and the daily grtd. to 22.00 cet, that's way too late for ordinary, working people, which you mostly cater to!

- Keep in mind that the vast majority of the players on the network is from Europe!

5) The rake strukture is the most expensive on the internet! $/€ 0,5 per $/€0,20 raked, up to €5 even HU on the Euro tables is extremely expensive.


- Seeing you claim to have a lot to do with the growth of the network, I assume a lot of the above mentioned points is because of you as well?!

I was referring to on-screen graphical animation on Everleaf, which does display raked amount each hand. Players actually see a visual animation of the chips raked at the end of each hand, with a dollar amount shown on them before "dropped". Yes, of course all sites tell you how much they are charging for rake on the website. Everleaf is the only site I know of that shows visual animation on the screen for the exact rake taken each hand.

Also, Everleaf software continues to show the amount raked in visual display Hand History. Perhaps they don't state rake in text hand history for you database geeks to grab, but they certainly do graphically and have for awhile. No other site I've played shows this visual graphic of rake taken. Full Tilt and Bodog show no visual animation of rake taken at all, while Cake shows the chips raked & dropped, but does not put a value on them.

There is a reason Everleaf's competitor's don't show this rake visual. Players don't need a constant reminder each hand of the house take. Players should certainly know it is happening (website or do the math themselves), but they don't need to see it so blatantly to tilt us.

Especially when the site has 5 Euro max rake. Players see that starring at them even in graphic hand history and get disgusted, so it's no wonder people come here to complain.

I believe micro-stakes USD games charge a higher % than the industry avg as well.

Thank you. This helps (though it should be more obvious). I take back calling you a "database geek" above!

Everytime I go to 1k plo dollar table buy in 1000 I lose 0.01€ after I leave table. My account is in euros. Sit in rake?

crockme,

FT and Cake both show me exactly what's being raked, every hand, on screen, in hand, and both my replays and in the text hand history. If they didn't, would you trust what they are taking out of it?

I don't know what to say. I have checked 3 times now and I see none of that rake info/visual on FT or Cake. Their defaults must not show it though. I just sat down real money to play on FT and took multiple SS with no rake shown anywhere.

Bah, and now it seems I also don't know how to paste pics into a thread either (URL for a pic saved on my desktop?).

To check/trust rake, I figured people can always to the math themselves (chips input by players minus pot distribution). Very confused you see things differently.

I just posted this question within another 2+2 section and players confirmed my conclusion. No other site shows these things. They said Ekdikeo's HUD must be what displays the rake info to him, not the client software.

The only way to see the rake each hand on FT is to "mouseover the pot", and even this does not work within the hand replay screen.

It does if you move the replayer back 1/2 steps.

OH, Thank you. "Mouseover the pot" does work if you replay back 1/2 step on FT. Still, players have to do something to see rake information on competitor sites, while on Victory Poker rake is automatically shown to players in the animation each hand.

Rake taken should certainly be viewable if players want to see it, but like all competitors of Everleaf, it doesn't need to be rubbed in player faces each hand to tilt us.

Time Bank. Final suggestion. The time counts down fast. Generally I like that to speed up play, but when players have real decisions to make there is no time to think the hand thru.

One hand last night I quickly decided the right play was to push all-in, but was too late/got folded before I could. Frustrating.

Time Bank
Better visual when "Tiling Tables"
More table themes (Not so important)

E-Check.