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Theduke211 HU SNG Two Month/500 games, no markup, non turbos Theduke211 HU SNG Two Month/500 games, no markup, non turbos

08-03-2010 , 10:34 PM
Hey everyone, my name is Jason. I have been a long time stakee through the site, across many stakers. I also have many friends in the community.

So my goal is to sell 65% of my action in $50 and $100 HU SNG's on FTP and/or Stars. I will keep action at the limits lower and will never play over these $100's. All games will be non turbo on FTP. Turbo and non turbo on Stars. For those unfamiliar with these site differences, Stars normal speeds are similar to the speed of a deep stack on FTP. Stars turbos are similar to FTP normal speeds. FTP turbos are the fastest of the options and I will not play as they dont fit my game as it stands now.

All games will be played with game selection. I will only play people I feel I have an edge against. In my normal games (and in the scopes to follow) I sit first and play anyone. This will not be the case for these games. I will keep search on for Stars so that you can see I will not be sitting first.

I cannot guarantee any amount of volume as we are game selecting and I will be sitting second, but it will run for two months or 500 games. Whichever is first. We should get plenty of games and I am definitely EV in these games because of the game selection involved.

The "stock" will be run on PokerByTrade and I will have a rail there for you to follow. I recommend the site to everyone to check out and sign up if you will, if you invest. It's a great way for tracking these things and is an awesome community.

If you reserve or ship please let me know if you do not want to participate through that site. In that case I will be reserving you there as PRIVATE and you can get my contact information to keep up to date on the stock as well as I will create a rail I will update 1-5 times a week.

Stock will run as a 50/50 split plus.... I will be including rakeback only for FTP games and it will be 20% of my total rakeback per week regardless of volume for these limits versus my own games, there is no mark-up on this at all. Thats just silly and IMO markup is already abused by players in this forum already. For crying out loud just take a larger % cut as a player and stop skimming off the top... again IMO.

No 4mans or higher. Only one table games.

Here are my stats, refs to come:



Starting BR will be 3K to allow for ~60 bi for the $50's and ~30 for the $100's.

1% - $30
5% - $150
10% - $300

theduke211 - Stars
Jerper - FTP


Thank you everyone, and also PM me if you want to speak to me on Skype or AIM
PM or post here if you see any mistakes
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08-03-2010 , 11:21 PM
The duke has been a quality horse for me for over two years, he is always accessible, a strong player and a hard worker.

*I am matthjacobson on parttimepoker and pokerbytrade if you would like to look me up or contact me

Ill buy $30 worth or 1%
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08-03-2010 , 11:24 PM
average stake $20? and you wnna play 50s and 100s?
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08-03-2010 , 11:36 PM
Yes, two tabling and game selecting. That's why I'm taking 35%, and we can very safely assume that most of the matches I pick will be 50s just based on player pools.

Last edited by Theduke211; 08-03-2010 at 11:50 PM.
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08-04-2010 , 12:13 AM
Jason is a solid guy who (as matthjacobson said) has been a solid horse for stakers in the past and won't do anything shady, etc. I talk to him about poker constantly and he puts a ton of thought into his game, as his results in the HU SNGs show. This plan looks solid, if I wasn't on a downer and had any spare money I would buy into it for sure.
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08-04-2010 , 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by bigboyfosho
average stake $20? and you wnna play 50s and 100s?
I haven't grinded HU SNGs for quite a while, but I used to play them exclusively for a long time and I still dabble a tiny bit, and my experience is that a fish is a fish no matter what stakes he is playing. I used to sit and game select in 100s and up and found TONS of guys who played exactly like the guys Duke is currently playing (or much worse). Since Duke is game selecting and given his HU SNG results I think he'll be fine.
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08-04-2010 , 12:27 AM
Do you play under any other screen names at these sites or any other sites you only have about 1100 games on Heads Up combined with a total profit of ~$400, mostly playing $11s. On FTP your $11 ROI is 3% over 180 games. Doesn't seem like a very large sample size or ultra impressive results and according to SS you've never played 1 game over $33.

Please clarify as I think other potential investors will shy away with these stats.
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08-04-2010 , 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by PocketQueens
Do you play under any other screen names at these sites or any other sites you only have about 1100 games on Heads Up combined with a total profit of ~$400, mostly playing $11s. On FTP your $11 ROI is 3% over 180 games. Doesn't seem like a very large sample size or ultra impressive results and according to SS you've never played 1 game over $33.

Please clarify as I think other potential investors will shy away with these stats.
I completely appreciate this question and want to respond to this. I do not have any other heads up action, nor do I currently play on any other sites. I have in the past but never heads up. I had a lot of 100nl and 200nl 6m regular stacked and deep stacked on UB/ABS and Cake. No heads up. Literally any game or HH you can find of me that is not at 6-max cash was just for entertainment.

I listed the games/stats that I put in here because to me they are the only relevant action. Before this reset on FTP for my SS, I never played anything seriously. I reset the FTP account because I wanted to sit first and play anyone. This has worked out well and I am glad I did so. I played cash games since 2006 and literally every MTT or SNG you can find on me other than these FTP games were for fun or a change of pace and never serious ventures.

I joined HUSNG.com and became a regular in the HUNL forum in March~ of this year. Thats when I dove into HU play. I knew very little before then.

Your relevant games are going to be normal speeds. Ill post those scopes for you.

In order are:
1. $11's
2. $11-$33's
3. $20's
4. $30's



Your valid point is that its not a huge sample, but it is enough of a sample to have meaning. And the results are actually quite stellar, and these are results of me sitting first and not bum hunting. I dont know how familiar you are to heads up dynamics, let alone the strategy involved in HU SNGS. A donk is a donk no matter the limit. Sure there are aggro fish, loose passive stations etc, and yes strategies against them are different in HU SNGS but the skill level of a fish is the same.

I am surprised this has been passed up so much. I lurk here in selling shares all the time just being interested in these stakes, for some reason. I see this community throw money around with no regard, to people who have no references. I see 30% ROI lifetime players sell shares at 1.2 markup for high variance Sunday packages that have abi's of 5x their lifetime abi, who haven't won an mtt in 2 years and had one big luck box score in a MTT they played out of their bankroll.

No hard feelings to people who dont invest in me. But this is surely one of the lower variance, higher ROI investments I have seen in selling shares. As well as one that has no risk of ruin or roll risk. It's possible this roll could get rolled over 10 or more times (meaning its possible that we see $30k in buyins). If I am game selecting and ONLY turn in a 4% roi at worst case that would mean a return of $4,200 at a minimum. I dont see the roi being that low at all. 8% would be a return of $5400 for the total roll.

Game selecting makes this valuable.

Last edited by Theduke211; 08-04-2010 at 04:38 PM.
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08-04-2010 , 04:46 PM
35% me
1% matthjacobson

64% left
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08-05-2010 , 03:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Theduke211
Was I really crazy here, for trying to set this up?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/16...turbos-844653/

No hard feelings on feedback. My plan here on out was just just keep one roll and play $20's and $30's, investing as much as I can in 1-3% increments through pokerbytrade and Selling Shares forum. Then monthly re-evaluating my total online roll and moving up/down and investing more/less based on results.
yeah.. imo its a bit crazy. you have no experience in 50s/100s (WAY harder than 20s/30s). ask yourself, why do you want to play these?

you do realize if you play 500 115s at lets say, a 5% ROI, you only have 35% of yourself anyway.. so it'd be equivalent to playing 500 34.5s on your own roll, giving you a higher ROI, and even more profit for yourself. even at 5% ROI it'd be like the same profit.

or another example is play $55s.. you'll have exactly $19.25 of yourself in every game. thats less than playing 20s. and you'll have a lower ROI.

theres really no reason for anyone to invest in this other than friends to sweat/support. that includes you too, because it'd be much better for you to work up from the 30s.

correct me if im wrong
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08-05-2010 , 03:46 AM
Well, you are wrong and didn't read the thread. It's a 50/50 split for me, and investors. So I get 50% of profit plus my share of the 35%.

And saying there is no reason to invest is just silly. Reading the OP and every post made after speaks to table selection and not sitting first. If you read that thread, then you play HU SNGs? If so give me a difference between a -5% fish and 1% fish. There really isn't one. That is where the EV comes from.

I am not gonna lie I can go through the first two pages of sell a share and find MUCH worse investments that are selling that are just horrible investments with money.
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08-05-2010 , 04:17 AM
i wrote a long post, but decided not to post...

i do agree that now i see its 50/50 it is a good deal for you

sorry to derail, potential investors please ignore what i said.

GLGL OP
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