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06-06-2014 , 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by gtpitch
My mistake - I've somehow missed this forever.

1) Yes, general marketplace. So long as it is about seeking other investors to go in with you and not about finding horses you'll be fine. If it becomes more of the latter it'll be closed.
2) Not that I can think of. You could ask in one of the subforum's general questions type threads for people to PM you. I think "randomly" pm'ing would be fine just to see if anyone would be open to talking. As far as someone who backs a lot of people - should be easy to determine in the offering stakes subforum
3) No, see answer to #1
4) No, we don't allow that
Firstly, thanx for the answers , took you guys a while but I at least recieve some clear replies to my questions, so its all good!

I am obviously aint gonna argue about those replies, I am not the one creating the rules and I surely respect the one who does cause obviously he knows better than me why and how each of these rules help/protect this community.

With this being said tho, I would like to know/discuss whats the case about the negative answer in question no 4.

I ve been told in the past, that the main reason that selling shares of a stable in the marketplace could be tricky, is the extra layer of transactions that will occur and all the problems that come along with that, but if there is a stable owner who is a well-respected and trustfull member of the marketplace who guarantees about investor's money meaning that even if a horse actually scams the stable, owner will have to deliver the stolen money to the investors harmed, I really cant see what the change will be and why this action is not allowed.

In my opinion both investors/stable will benefit by this as stable will be more willing to attract more horses as variance can be countered by selling the right % fraction of horses action, horses will gain some extra equity by selling their % at MU and finally investors will be able to back a group of players (that are obviously proved winning and had someone picking them up + coach them and vouch for them) instead of individuals giving their investment a way better protection vs the variance as well.

I dont know if its my personal opinion or if I do miss something arround this issue but I would personally prefer to buy a 10% at 1.1 MU from a group of players rather than a single one. So can someone please enlighten me about this and why there is a rule forbidding this action?

Cheers !
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06-06-2014 , 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by gfk_asbos
Firstly, thanx for the answers , took you guys a while but I at least recieve some clear replies to my questions, so its all good!

I am obviously aint gonna argue about those replies, I am not the one creating the rules and I surely respect the one who does cause obviously he knows better than me why and how each of these rules help/protect this community.

With this being said tho, I would like to know/discuss whats the case about the negative answer in question no 4.

I ve been told in the past, that the main reason that selling shares of a stable in the marketplace could be tricky, is the extra layer of transactions that will occur and all the problems that come along with that, but if there is a stable owner who is a well-respected and trustfull member of the marketplace who guarantees about investor's money meaning that even if a horse actually scams the stable, owner will have to deliver the stolen money to the investors harmed, I really cant see what the change will be and why this action is not allowed.

In my opinion both investors/stable will benefit by this as stable will be more willing to attract more horses as variance can be countered by selling the right % fraction of horses action, horses will gain some extra equity by selling their % at MU and finally investors will be able to back a group of players (that are obviously proved winning and had someone picking them up + coach them and vouch for them) instead of individuals giving their investment a way better protection vs the variance as well.

I dont know if its my personal opinion or if I do miss something arround this issue but I would personally prefer to buy a 10% at 1.1 MU from a group of players rather than a single one. So can someone please enlighten me about this and why there is a rule forbidding this action?

Cheers !
#4 gets discussed a lot - probably in depth at least once a year. One of the bigger issues is that "trusting members of marketplace" can still scam and sorting through all of those transactions would be a headache.
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06-06-2014 , 08:29 PM
sorry for this, truth is I didnt try to dig up a lot before posting.
I guess it could be a "headache" but isnt the same in case an individual tried to scam the marketplace? Like for example if I sell a package and I somehow cheat the investors I ll be banned from the marketplace etc. why this could not apply to a larger scale? I dont see how its differ. Someone who would have the "right" to sell as a stable on marketplace would obviously be treated the same way in case he doesn't pay back a potential scam that occured by a sneaky horse in case he has guaranteed that. If he pays the ammount stolen and cuts the collaboration with the stealing horse then I dont see why he should be punished somehow.

So I can generally see how this issue would maybe affect some opinions but surely there must be more than this right?
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06-18-2014 , 12:53 AM
Can some1 plz link me to where I can sell my Americas card room poker money? I need my funds ASAP and I've been looking everywhere I think..
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06-18-2014 , 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by West223rd
Can some1 plz link me to where I can sell my Americas card room poker money? I need my funds ASAP and I've been looking everywhere I think..
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...e-points-1529/

Read the first post.
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06-23-2014 , 05:59 AM
what should i do to increase the chances of getting staked?
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06-24-2014 , 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by spaceman Bryce
what should i do to increase the chances of getting staked?
win alot unstaked and be consistent with your results!
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07-13-2014 , 01:09 PM
Whats a good stake deal for the stakee if he crushes the game between 10bb/100- 20bb/100?
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07-15-2014 , 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by KINGDMER
Whats a good stake deal for the stakee if he crushes the game between 10bb/100- 20bb/100?
why would u need to be staked if u crush like that?
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07-15-2014 , 02:16 PM
What's up 2p2 I created this new account .. Frownd upon? Because I forgot my password and don't have access to my old college email. Anywho this screen name is more appropriate for me anyways cause it's also my stars name. Wasn't really an avid 2p2er before so not really relevant but old account was 2-10flpro88. Just a failed sne Pgc

Was thinking getting into the mp more seriously now tho for buying/selling shares. Who knows. Peace out 2p2, Matt
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07-16-2014 , 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by manndl
why would u need to be staked if u crush like that?
50nl and 100nl so its not a ton of money- i spent it.
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07-28-2014 , 02:22 PM
Hi,

I have been trying to get in touch wit Bobo Fett for the last 2 weeks to post on the commercial marketplace. He has not responded to my emails or PM's. Could someone kindly direct me to someone who is in charge of taking payments for the commercial marketplace.

Thank you
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07-28-2014 , 09:55 PM
Someone who regularly sells action in the staking forums has two posts containing negative feedback. At what point will their staking privileges be removed?
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07-31-2014 , 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Demonic16
Someone who regularly sells action in the staking forums has two posts containing negative feedback. At what point will their staking privileges be removed?
You must be mistaken.
I don't see that account ever being approved and it has no posts since 2006.
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08-01-2014 , 06:23 PM
Lol touche
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08-02-2014 , 02:07 AM
I was of course being fecicious because D16 left us hanging with no details.

He should be posting the name or PMing Marketplace mods with his concerns.
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08-10-2014 , 10:49 AM
Hey marketplace, what are your thoughts on markup for MTTs under the condition of a profitable package? Most people charge their markup upfront, but I was wondering if this is a more preferable method for buyers.

Example: Player sells action for an MTT package for $2000 worth of buy ins. Investors pay face value 1% for $20. If the package earns at least $3000, $2 from each percent is given to the player as a 10% markup.

I would personally prefer this over paying $22/1% in this case, how do you guys feel about it?
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08-10-2014 , 03:01 PM
its a biased question, because sellers will be against it and buyers for it
(i like it btw)
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08-10-2014 , 03:27 PM
Obviously higher markup would be paid so I don't see it as particularly different and honestly makes it more complicated. Plus in general the point of selling action is to reduce variance and this proposal would increase variance. Plus it would make calculations as to profitable itm/roi tougher particularly for the casual investor. With mu it's simple if he's charging 1.xx he needs to have a xx% roi for it to be a +ev buy. A lot more math is needed to calculate with your method plus various itm % should be priced differently too.
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08-18-2014 , 08:44 AM
Hi guys,

COuldn't find the exact answear anywhere so thought of asking here.

How many posts do i need to make before i am able to create a marketplace thread.

Tyvm
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08-18-2014 , 11:10 AM
Found what i was looking for so disregard previous post.

Thx
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08-18-2014 , 04:17 PM
For a re-entry event is it possible to solely sell your second bullet?

I want 100% of myself for the first entry. If i needed to re-enter i would like to sell the second bullet.

The tournament is £220 entry and £220 for re entries.

If I sold 100% of the second bullet would i have 50% of my total action?

Or am i just being a dumb dolt?
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08-18-2014 , 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by KINGDMER
For a re-entry event is it possible to solely sell your second bullet?

I want 100% of myself for the first entry. If i needed to re-enter i would like to sell the second bullet.

The tournament is £220 entry and £220 for re entries.

If I sold 100% of the second bullet would i have 50% of my total action?

Or am i just being a dumb dolt?
You can try to see if you would have buyers of your 2nd bullet. And you have as much action as you specify, but typically if you sold 100%, you have 0%.
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08-18-2014 , 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by JL514
You can try to see if you would have buyers of your 2nd bullet. And you have as much action as you specify, but typically if you sold 100%, you have 0%.
" And you have as much action as you specify, but typically if you sold 100%, you have 0%."

i'm sort of confused by that sorry.
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08-20-2014 , 12:33 PM
When you sell action for single mtts or a set of mtts you sell 1% = 1% (eliminating markup for simplicity).

When you are in a staking agreement (long term) typically they pay 100% of your buyins for 50% of your action.

Since you're not in a staking agreement, if you sold 100%, you would have 0% left for yourself.
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