Yep, It's like the wrote the script and realized they ****ed up and had actually written a decent character, maybe even someone who could've been a real life human being. unlike you know, carol, who must get back out on the road to do a bunch of killing because she doesn't feel right about killing for her friends with food and a place to stay, SHE MUST WRIST MACHINE GUN GANGS WITHOUT FOOD OR SHELTER!! Then they were like, this dude doesn't have a barn full of zombies, or let the cops rape all the women in lieu of pay, better tard cartoon him up, go back and add some Shakespeare and a really fake looking tiger. Ahhh, just right...

These are good points, as well. I have not read the comics, but I certainly understand the filmmakers wanting to stay true to the comic's style as much as possible.

However, there is a basic problem with that - the comic is in black and white, isn't it? And when you're reading a graphic novel, you are only seeing one panel at a time - no matter how graphic or violent a panel is, it is still only one panel - you usually have to "fill-in" what's going on in a comic between panels - they are not showing you everything.

In film or TV, you're seeing everything...and in the case of TWD, everything is too much. It goes beyond dramatic narrative or purpose into cartoon-land, and is laughable because of it.

haha

I actually quite liked this ep, go Ezekiel

hoping this leads to a war at the end of the season

That's a big reason why I enjoyed this last episode. It certainly wasn't thrilling, nor will it rank up there amongst the absolute best TWD episodes, but I did like seeing how Ezekiel handled the relationship with the Saviors and how it contrasted to the Hilltop. Also, it is sometimes good to have a "calm down" episode now and then.

Of course, I was thinking "WTF" along with everyone else at this King Ezekiel cartoon character, but I thought his revelation of who he really was was quite interesting, especially since, to this point, it doesn't look like the Kingdom is a ****ed up place like Terminus or Woodbury.

From a pure acting standpoint, I also like watching the actors that play Ezekiel and Morgan.

The other thing I enjoyed about the episode was Carol's hallucination of the walkers being real people. That was cool and really well done (also, as someone who was a walker last season, I'm jealous of that role).

The jury is still out for me on Carol, though. Not sure I get her whole loner rebel deal, but I'll roll with it. Overall, I tend to just enjoy being entertained - I don't cry when characters get killed nor do I get up in arms about some plot hole.

My one nitpick is that Ezekiel's group must not be suffering too much by giving the Saviors half their stuff if nobody in their group knows about it except the higher ups. The one kid didn't even finish his plate of food and had to be admonished for it.

isn't the explanation /implication that they are mostly giving them damaged goods as tribute?

(without going down the road of whether or not eating a cooked pig who ate a zombie is dangerous to your health...I doubt the show really has an answer to this)

What does it say about this show that I can look past a CGI tiger and be happy that something happened.

Also, nice that this ties back to Negan's group so quickly. Usually they have these tangents that go nowhere.

Yeah, I really didn't have much to complain about with this episode, beyond the whole King Ezekiel thing. I thought the tiger looked damn good.

I found Glen's death more disturbing in the comics than in the TV show. Likely because by the time the show came around I had already processed the scene but the comic was also pretty gory.

http://www.thewalkingdead.com/7-ways...to-the-comics/

Cool, thanks for that.

But it makes my point! We can handle the gore one panel at a time and in black and white...and it can be chilling and heart-breaking...but film that, and it becomes laughably over-the-top.

They fed the zombie to the pigs in disdain for the saviours hoping it ****s em up in a untraceable way, devious.

"Wanna make sure their bellies are full of rot for where they heading"

Or something like that. Pretty sure they don't do that to the pigs they are going to eat themselves.

To each their own I guess. I thought they did a pretty good job. I got caught by the Abraham fake out, and so wasn't expecting the glen hit when it happened. I liked that. Also the part with rick cutting Carl's arm off was tense. RV stuff was filler though.

Yea that was a good setup. I was worried it was going to be another someone's acting wierd with zombies thing or some Twilight Zone thing, but nope that guy just want to f*ck with the Saviors.

i thought the tiger looked great fu for saying it looked fake as **** .

show is AIDS tho

*gargle* "maggie" *gargle gargle*

I've seen far worse

I Shazamed the song. It's called (ldo) "Easy Street" by The Collapsable Hearts Club.

It's on Google Play now.

https://play.google.com/music/m/Bw2g...le_Hearts_Club

eff that song, poor daryl

I still can't figure out what those guys behind the fence were doing with the walkers

I was falling in and out of sleep watching this last night on dvr, am I to glean anything more from it than scar face getting cuckolded by negan?

Dom,

Thought you were quitting!

They did the bucket on head thing multiple times to drive in its significance. Like Leo I was half asleep and didn't even bother to think about what they were doing. I think maybe they were just driving them onto stakes and using the buckets to prevent themselves from getting bitten.

I was really moved by the whole arc involving Dwight and some dude I have no idea about.

Same, I thought for something they showed like 7 times on the show, they did a really poor job of showing what was actually happening

So Negan is basically the dystopian John Gotti, yet we're to believe he lives in a tiny studio type apartment space? Or was that just some sort of random room he was holed up in at the time?

And did I miss when/where Darryl was getting stuff to drink to chase down his dog food sandwiches and, you know, to be able to continue living?

I don't think they needed to show us every single food/drink that Darryl had delivered to him. I thought seeing him being delivered like 7 dog food sandwiches during the episode was already a bit much. We got it the first 3 times you showed us TWD