holy **** NBC is back!

Hot off the presses:

Revolution:

10pm-2.9 in the 18-49 demo and 7.946 million viewers
10:30pm-2.4 in the 18-49 demo and 6.552 million viewers

That translates to about a 2.6 I believe. NBC is decidedly not back, though we'll have to wait a few weeks to see if Revolution is still getting the huge DVR bumps it was in the Fall.

The half hours for The Voice are also pretty entertaining.

The Voice:

8pm-4.0 in the 18-49 demo
8:30pm-4.5 in the 18-49 demo
9pm-4.9 in the 18-49 demo
9:30pm-5.2 in the 18-49 demo

The Following had a 2.2 and 2.4 for its half hours.

Nailed the downward adjustment of Revolution to the 2.6.

Fun trivia fact:

The Following's final numbers were a 2.3 and 6.66 million viewers...lol.

What a difference a lead in makes.

Go On-2.1 in the 18-49 demo and 5.64 million viewers (this show is back in renewal territory in ONE week, stupid NBC, and now all that's left is to see what it does behind The Office), representing a 1.1 increase in the 18-49 demo in ONE week. It's like the viewers of The Voice are saying, "Ooh look it's that guy from Friends I used to like!"

The New Normal-1.4 in the 18-49 demo and 3.58 million viewers (that put the show right back on the bubble)

Body of Proof-1.7 in the 18-49 demo and 9.58 million viewers (guaranteed renewal at these numbers, behind DWTS, especially considering that this show has significant DVR boost)

On the other other side of the coin, Golden Boy finally crashed with a 1.4 in the 18-49 demo and 8.08 million viewers (this is likely going to get adjusted down to a 1.3, based on the half hours). Its half hours were 1.5 and 1.2.

What was NBC supposed to do? Cut the order, and take a 3-4 month break like Revolution? They can't have The Voice protect it forever.

It will be interesting to see what they do with Revolution next year.

If they set the precedent, as they clearly did, yes. ABC's propping up Body of Proof with DWTS. Why not inflate the numbers of a sitcom like that with The Voice? And they certainly could do that forever, or at least until it was firmly established. Last season, Body of Proof couldn't lift the needle without DWTS, but it had renewable numbers behind it. It was renewed, brought back a few weeks before DWTS, for ratings illustration purposes (in my mind), and had pretty terrible ratings without the lead in. Without an elimination episode, its numbers were up significantly, but not a lot. With an elimination episode, its numbers increased a lot from the non DWTS episodes. The fact that ABC was willing to renew a ratings turd (especially with the Private Practice disaster in the fall) shows where the networks are beginning to think. NBC is not thinking this way right now (in regard to lead in), but they certainly are thinking about "creative" scheduling. Has Revolution ever aired an episode without The Voice as a lead in?

They could have other programming fit the bill behind Off Their Rockers. You have to get your success somewhere, and some shows clearly need real lead ins to be successful (that used to be the model). If the networks are going to eff with the hiatus model, they should do that for just about every successful show. I have no idea why they allowed both Grimm and Revolution to go on insanely long hiatuses, but basically threw their top rated sitcom under the bus. So I stand by my assessment of, yes, stupid NBC.

Where do you think The Good Wife and The Mentalist stand?

I'm guessing CSI NY and Vegas are gone. Golden Boy took over CSI NY slot since it had shorter season. Golden Boy is also gone I'm guessing at least for fall and spring. So its really only 2 time slots. I'm guessing NCIS: Red gets picked up. So does it just depend on the rest of the pilots they have?

I would put The Good Wife on Friday.

I agree with Rendle, but I would also put The Mentalist on Friday, swapping out the Sunday shows to Friday (I don't want to give up on the idea of Golden Boy to Sundays along with Blue Bloods, but I will next week if ratings are similar). I think moving both those shows to Friday would increase their long term prospects. Neither are going to get canceled, no matter what happens.

If NCIS: Red goes, they might as well just make Tuesdays the NCIS night.

almost everything on cbs renewed. wonder what the hold up with criminal minds is.

They're probably trying to sort out contract issues, which is something they've had huge problems with for the last few seasons. I'm concerned that Hotch is going to be gone after this season, and it was a major concern that he wouldn't re-up last season.

American Idol 3.1
Modern Family 3.2

ridiculous

Anyone know how Legit on FX has rated? I know it's been picked up for season 2

Its ratings were anemic. If it weren't for that FXX network, there's no chance this would have returned. I can't find 18-49 demo numbers (though I think typically 2/3 of its viewers were 18-49). Its highest overall viewers were 760,000. The lowest appears to be in the 420,000 range. I doubt it ever made the top 100 cable shows for Thursdays with any episode.

good night nurse

CW territory

I knew that Touch was going to go in a bad direction at last season's finale. Then, they waited half the season to start airing it. Then, it started out with ratings that were terrible, and I decided not to invest at all. Neither has anyone else. Ironically, I've seen some stuff where people say they really like this season, but I hear that about all serialized shows that wide audiences aren't interested in.

Whats the difference between CW and cable channel? I mean the CW 3 best show get like cable ratings. The standard seems to be about the same.

CW is a broadcast channel so it doesn't get cable subscription money. It is related to CBS/Viacom so don't worry about anyone going broke.

It's also owned by Warner Bros. They did it because one of the two networks from the 90s (UPN or WB) was going to get cannibalized the way cable was taking over. So, instead of one dying, they decided to merge. I liked a decent amount of UPN programming (comedies), but never really got much into WB stuff, though Arrow, Smallville, and Supernatural would all have been on the WB (Smallville was). Does CW even do any sitcoms anymore?

I do think almost all basic cable shows are done to a higher standard than the vast majority of the CW programs (Supernatural is a pretty big exception from what I've seen). Their promos are so cheesy looking, like internet quality (ugliest graphics ever). I mixed a bunch of UPN promos back in the day, and they were a lot better than what the CW is doing today.

Well, I can't see any way for Golden Boy to get renewed Mon-Thur based on this week's DVR ratings. It has the equivalent of a 1.7 in L+3 and only a 1.9 in L+7. These numbers are practically identical to Vegas, which is certainly not returning on Mon-Thur. It will be really interesting to see Vegas's numbers on Friday, as it pulling a 1.5 is about the only thing that will give it a chance at renewal. This week is going to be make or break for a bunch of shows (The New Normal, Golden Boy, Vegas, Go On, Revolution).

If The New Normal hits a 2.0+ tomorrow, I could easily see them seriously consider renewing it (anything 1.7 or below, pretty much no chance). If Go On maintains its 2.0 behind The Office, that will definitely get renewed, and they'll just have to figure out how to make it "win" next year. If Vegas can hit a 1.5, it could return on Fridays or Sundays next season. If we see another 1.4 or 1.5 for Golden Boy, coupled with a Vegas 1.5, you'll never hear from Golden Boy again. Unforgettable still pulled in a 2.0 in the slot last season (first canceled, then renewed for the summer). With ratings like last week's Golden Boy, I just can't even see it in the summer anymore.

If Revolution is anywhere near last week's ratings, I fully expect the renewals of Grimm and Revolution in the next few days. The only thing I could see causing them to wait until maybe next week is if they want to see how Hannibal does.

The Walking Dead's 9pm episode had 8.1 million viewers in the 18-49 demo (I think this translates to a 6.4, but I can't remember how to make the calculation), and 12.4 million overall viewers. This isn't even factoring in replays. That's the highest numbers it's ever had.

worse considering CW gets a good amount of online views that don't get counted.

Interesting, I assume it won't get propped up by The Voice next fall.

To fill that out for you...

Revolution:

10pm-2.6 in the 18-49 demo 7.307 viewers
10:30pm-2.1 in the 18-49 demo 6.017 million viewers

The show's obviously going to get renewed, and I'm sure it's doing fine in DVR.

Castle had a similar overall viewers drop last night, but less in the 18-49 demo lost. Even though Hawaii Five-O was a rerun last night, I maintain that Revolution being in that slot is hurting all of those shows. It might not be a bad move for them to move it to Tuesdays, and put Parenthood on Thursdays. I do wonder what Grimm would do behind The Voice (I'm pretty sure it never got the opportunity it was supposed to have this season), but not enough to want it to get moved. I would literally be shocked if Revolution is not renewed before next Monday's episode. I know they don't want to announce it if it drops any lower next week, unless DVR ratings were spectacular for the first episode of its return (only real reason they could wait).