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10-14-2010 , 04:00 PM
It's just amazing how year after year on a non-all star season, you can make it to the merge or very close to it by just shutting your mouth and not being an *******.
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10-14-2010 , 04:20 PM
Someone wanted a gif of Fabio's dance after the immunity challenge win



Looks like he is fingering two girls at the same time, hah



here is a resized avatar version, feel free to claim it (first come, first serve)
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10-14-2010 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Zimmer4141
It's just amazing how year after year on a non-all star season, you can make it to the merge or very close to it by just shutting your mouth and not being an *******.
which is a recipe for boring, uneventful post-merge episodes (Australia post-Jerri, Marquesas, etc)

a lot of the great characters get the chop early unfortunately

under the radar is the new power strategy LOL
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10-14-2010 , 04:28 PM
(Un)Official Top 5 Power Rankings.

Kos13, vyk07, Soncy, SavageTilt, and myself put together a Top 5 of the players remaining who we think are in the best spot to win.

Whoever is ranked 1st will get 15 points; 2nd 10 points; 3rd, 7 points; 4th, 5 points; 5th, 3 points. The player with the most total points is 1st thru 5th obv.

So this weeks Power Rankings:

1. Brenda (52)
-Less likely to be viewed as a traditional 'threat' because she's a small female, and she has Chase whipped into doing whatever she wants. (SavageTilt)

2. Sash (37)
-He's smart, he's got strong allies, and he seems quietly devious. (Kos13)

3. Benry (28)
-New Leader of Espada, shown ability to blindside anyone with leading the vote out of Tyrone. (cash mahne)

4. Jill (27)
-Her position seems precarious, but I'm not ready to give up on her yet. (Soncy)

5. Marty (25)
-Target on his back, on the wrong side of the numbers, cunning with an idol though (vyk07)

Others receiving votes: Chase (18), Alina (12), Jane (3)

Last edited by cash mahne; 10-14-2010 at 04:40 PM. Reason: fixed
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10-14-2010 , 04:32 PM
Brenda was pretty much handed the leadership role of a major alliance. When you think about how it happened, it was just a ****storm of weirdness and luck.
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10-14-2010 , 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by vyk07
which is a recipe for boring, uneventful post-merge episodes (Australia post-Jerri, Marquesas, etc)

a lot of the great characters get the chop early unfortunately

under the radar is the new power strategy LOL
i like an under the radar strategy, until a couple of votes into the merge. You won't seem like a major threat and then you step up as a power player with a chance to actually win the game. This can work for some people, but others like Tyrone would still be targeted as a physical threat.
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10-14-2010 , 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by cash mahne
Official Top 5 Power Rankings
as the egotistical mod of this forum and a Survivor fan I don't recall sanctioning this!
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10-14-2010 , 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by killa
as the egotistical mod of this forum and a Survivor fan I don't recall sanctioning this!
wow i thought i typed (Un)Official... i will change it
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10-14-2010 , 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by cash mahne
wow i thought i typed (Un)Official... i will change it
I was busting balls if the thread agrees that you 5 are the best then for for it.
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10-14-2010 , 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by vyk07
Someone wanted a gif of Fabio's dance after the immunity challenge win



Looks like he is fingering two girls at the same time, hah



here is a resized avatar version, feel free to claim it (first come, first serve)
It worked! All mine.
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10-14-2010 , 05:07 PM
gif of fabios face at 17 minutes of the past episode when marty says no slackers. then gif of brenda a few seconds later saying they were all laid back, real chilllllll.
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10-14-2010 , 05:18 PM
Fabio might be the best Survivor to make gifs of that are funny. Matthew from The Amazon could be as well.
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10-14-2010 , 06:06 PM
Marty: "There were no slackers whatsoever." (camera zooms to Fabio's face)

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10-14-2010 , 06:27 PM
"we're very chill, laidback. we don't want trouble"

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10-14-2010 , 07:47 PM
So Marty/Jill/Yve all seem to be in precarious positions at this point in the game. What should each of them do in order to survive? If you were them, what would your moves be right now?
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10-14-2010 , 08:06 PM
if i was Marty/jill, i would stay as close to Fabio as possible and hope he spills the beans about which way the vote is going and then use the II to pick up some momentum. I don't see what Yve can do really except say/prove she has more to offer to the tribe then Dan and is more stable and dependable then Holly.
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10-14-2010 , 08:36 PM
Marty/Jill should be trying to flip Jud and KB/KS (KS actually seems more open to this, if the one instance of her talking on CBS is any indication) using the threat of the idol.

The oldies still on Espada collectively screwed themselves by voting out one of their own unless they can get someone to flip. Alina and Benry are the obvious candidates, with Alina probably being more likely. Beyond that... hope NaOnka either leaves or implodes and alienates her own tribe.

My justifications for the power rankings in case anyone's interested:
Spoiler:

Sash: He's in a 6-2 majority (if Jane flips), and even if two of Jud/KB/KS flip they're still tied. He seems to get on well with everybody, and is very savvy. His alliance includes Brenda, who's widely perceived as the biggest threat, and he should be well-suited for challenges. Moreover, his influence is not blatantly obvious like Marty's is, meaning that he can sneak UTR to an extent, despite exemplifying all of the qualities that usually label people as a threat. If he can survive his first power struggle with Marty (which I expect to occur the first time La Flor goes to TC) and the first two post-merge TCs (the occasion when players like him have been blindsided in each season since Fiji) he's the favourite IMO.

Brenda: Much of what I said about Sash applies to Brenda; however, even though she's been outed as a target, in many respects her position is better than that of Sash: she's less likely to be viewed as a traditional 'threat' because she's a small female, and she has Chase pussy-whipped into doing whatever she wants. Again, her long-term future depends on her short-term relationship with Marty, who she seems to be reacting negatively to.

Marty: I admit I'm hedging a bit here, since whichever of Marty and Sash/Brenda comes out on top on La Flor is almost certain to go deep in the game. He's alienating a lot of people and playing very aggressively, but he's probably the best strategic mind in the game and he has a HII. Only a fool would discount his chances.

Alina: If she flips to the oldies for the next Espada TC, she becomes the swing vote and can dictate the course of the game in the short term. If KB makes it to the merge and they're both thinking rationally, they'll become a pair of swing votes in a manner similar to Kenny/Crystal in Gabon (well, those two *should* have been swing votes, but they voted out Corinne over Matty for reasons beyond understanding) or a downsized version of Burton/JFP/Lill. Alina seems intelligent, and competing with the strategic prowess of Dan, Holly, and NaOnka shouldn't be a problem. If she makes it to the merge she should be ok.

Jane: La Flor is going to be too focused on alpha-male rivalry to focus on booting poor challenge competitors imo; in addition, challenges nowadays are rarely about pure strength anyway, and the rest of the tribe will recognise this. The young people supermajority will gun for Marty and Jill first, and then probably turn on KB. As far as I can see, Jane is a lock to make the merge, and her confessionals/secret scenes show that she's got a better brain for strategy than most elderly dog trainers.

Editing informs some of these choices: Kelly Shinn, for instance, is in a very good position but the fact that she hasn't said anything for five episodes virtually indicates she's drawing dead. Jud's future also depends on which side he chooses the first time La Flor go to TC; if he flip-flops he could easily end up alienated from his tribemates, and he's not canny enough to find a way out.


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Originally Posted by cash mahne
i like an under the radar strategy, until a couple of votes into the merge. You won't seem like a major threat and then you step up as a power player with a chance to actually win the game. This can work for some people, but others like Tyrone would still be targeted as a physical threat.
The UTR strategy seems correct for pre-merge. IMO the best approach is to attach yourself to the dominant alliance and go UTR, while cultivating a relationship with an outcast on your tribe that you can trust (ideally an older or unathletic woman). Hedge your bets early by doing this with as many of the outcasts as possible, so that a. you have a chance of flipping into a better position if you need to and b. you have a guaranteed ally for the post-merge. You want to go into the merge with your tribe in a slight majority, so that your two person voting bloc can become the swing votes (and hence the authors of the boot list). This isn't original by any means, but there are few examples of it actually happening. I know Kos prefers one person acting as a swing vote, but two people seems better.
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10-14-2010 , 08:43 PM
i honestly dont even know who kelly s is.
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10-14-2010 , 09:05 PM
So I am reading the latest edition of All In Magazine which has the title "Bellande Ambition" and a smug picture of Jean-Robert Bellande on the cover

One passage struck me in particular. I marked all the interesting parts:

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In 2009, [Bellande] was certain he was going to get a second chance in Survivor. Survivor was putting together an all-star season entitled Heroes vs. Villains, and having played the latter role memorably in China, Bellande was invited back. He was all set to return, with the knowledge that it's that second season that turns you into a bona fide reality star. That would have significantly increased his value for poker sponsorship deals or fast-tracked him to new opportunities in the entertainment industry.

Then Bellande ran into a one-outer on the river. A diabolical, diminutive soundbyte machine from Texas named Russell Hantz was stealing the show on Survivor: Samoa, which was airing just as Heroes vs. Villains was about to start shooting. The producers made a last-second decision: Russell is in, Jean-Robert is out.

"It could have been the biggest opportunity in my life - maybe I am going to win the show, who knows?" Bellande said, "These are the little things that, I just don't understand why I run bad in spots like that."
I laughed pretty hard after reading this. I could have sworn that Shane was the alternate for HvV that got jobbed.

What does everyone else think about this article?
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10-14-2010 , 09:08 PM
FWIW, my power rankings were:

1. Sash
2. Benry
3. Brenda
4. Chase
5. Marty

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i honestly dont even know who kelly s is.
I tried to sit through her CBS clip from yesterday, and I literally made it about ten seconds before I had to shut it off. She seems like a nice girl, but she's completely brain-dead and boring. I usually like ditzy girls, but she's not really even ditzy; she's just...nothing. Good thing she's hot.
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10-14-2010 , 09:29 PM
I still don't understand why everyone is putting Benry so high

He is outside the core young group of 5, has been the second most invisible person on this season outside KellyS, is only shown to be legitimately close with Chase and Fabio, and he is a big, physical immunity threat to others if he makes it to the merge (judging from his challenge dominance so far)

I would personally lump him in the middle of the pack with Fabio for now

BTW my top 5 are:
1. Brenda
2. Chase
3. Sash
4. Jill
5. Marty
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10-14-2010 , 09:43 PM
not to mention Benry just got his first confessionals of the season.

And how long has it been since Sash got a confessional?

Last edited by boc4life; 10-14-2010 at 09:45 PM. Reason: one of Brenda, Jane, Fabio, Alina, Holly wins. book it.
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10-14-2010 , 09:55 PM
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not to mention Benry just got his first confessionals of the season.

And how long has it been since Sash got a confessional?
Im watching FvF right now and im starting ep 6 and Natalie hasn't been shown at all. She went pretty deep in the game too. So imo it doesnt matter about air time at the beginning as long as your in a good alliance you can make it deep
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10-14-2010 , 09:56 PM
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Im watching FvF right now and im starting ep 6 and Natalie hasn't been shown at all. She went pretty deep in the game too. So imo it doesnt matter about air time at the beginning as long as your in a good alliance you can make it deep
But he's not in any alliance, just friends with Chase/Fabio and outside the circle of trust of the core young 5 besides Chase
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10-14-2010 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by vyk07
But he's not in any alliance, just friends with Chase/Fabio and outside the circle of trust of the core young 5 besides Chase
at the point in FvF Natalie isn't either. There has to be a bunch of stuff no one sees
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