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03-05-2010 , 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
A couple thoughts;

1) Coach is officially not only the biggest moron the ever play Survivor, he might be the biggest moron to ever live.

2) one of the best ep in a long time.

3) JT is done for, imo.

4) For my weekly screenshot we got a little something for me, for KOS and for the ladies.

James looked like Colossus in this challenge, lol. I swear I saw reflections of the camera crew in his chest.
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03-05-2010 , 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Kos13
The people with the best "winner's edits" so far would probably be J.T. and Tom, and Candice would probably be third (would have been Cirie third before tonight) simply because we've been shown NOTHING on the Villains. I'm guessing Tyson would be #1 on their Villains list simply because he's been visible (but not memorable) in every episode.

EDIT: I just looked, and I guess I'm a bit off on some of their speculation. They don't seem to like Tyson, and they think Rob is getting a reasonable (not super-positive) edit. They seem to hate Russell's edit, too. Yuck. They do seem to love J.T. and Tom so far, though, and Candice is in there, too.
Yeah dude, Tyson is getting like the anti-winner's edit. He's been written off since episode 1.

I think you nailed it with your assessment. JT, Tom, Candice all getting decent "winner's edits". None of the heroes appeared to have much of a winner's edit after the first 2 episodes. After last night, even moreso. I think Edgic will need to be careful about ruling people out for early-season invisible episodes on a season like this though. There were a bunch of people who were invisible in last night's episode, and that's because we had Coach dominate a ton of airtime, and since there's still so many damn players left out there and so many big personalities, it's a little more feasible that the editors would maybe leave a winner completely out of an early episode.

I feel like if any villain is gonna have a shot, it's gonna have to be Sandra. Rob's issue is that his edit is too visible and too positive.
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03-05-2010 , 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by boc4life
Yeah dude, Tyson is getting like the anti-winner's edit. He's been written off since episode 1.

I think you nailed it with your assessment. JT, Tom, Candice all getting decent "winner's edits". None of the heroes appeared to have much of a winner's edit after the first 2 episodes. After last night, even moreso. I think Edgic will need to be careful about ruling people out for early-season invisible episodes on a season like this though. There were a bunch of people who were invisible in last night's episode, and that's because we had Coach dominate a ton of airtime, and since there's still so many damn players left out there and so many big personalities, it's a little more feasible that the editors would maybe leave a winner completely out of an early episode.

I feel like if any villain is gonna have a shot, it's gonna have to be Sandra. Rob's issue is that his edit is too visible and too positive.
I mean I definitely do it too, but are we ruining the experience for ourselves and others focusing too much on the edits?
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03-05-2010 , 09:52 AM
I really don't get the people that sit around and try to figure out what's going to happen based on the edits. There's no such thing as reality TV. This is entertainment and let the producers/editors entertain you. You guys must be the same people trying to guess how the magician did the magic trick.
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03-05-2010 , 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by kartinken
I mean I definitely do it too, but are we ruining the experience for ourselves and others focusing too much on the edits?
Probably. I try not to think about the edit because it's more fun to just sit back and watch, but it is unavoidable at times.
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03-05-2010 , 10:00 AM
A great scene which is getting no love here is when Amanda tells Cirie that Tom offered to give up the idol.

Cirie: So, do you have it?
Amanda: Umm...No (dumb look on her face)

Had Cirie been there she would have called Tom's bluff and said "yes i'll take the idol and keep it safe for the tribe."
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03-05-2010 , 10:02 AM
The conspiracy theorist in me thinks the next immunity challenge will be a pure physical challenge so the heroes are likely to win and the tribes will stay more evenly balanced.
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03-05-2010 , 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by kartinken
I mean I definitely do it too, but are we ruining the experience for ourselves and others focusing too much on the edits?
I want to be clear that this is all pure speculation on my part. I've been spoiled for seasons during their live run before, and I HATED it. Just so boring, there's no suspense at all. If you guys think my "Edgic" stuff is spoiler-ish, then you have no idea how often Edgic has been wrong.

As far as whether I'm ruining the experience for myself by focusing on edits. No shot. Focusing on that stuff is the way I enjoy the show the best.
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03-05-2010 , 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Cardfish1
Had Cirie been there she would have called Tom's bluff and said "yes i'll take the idol and keep it safe for the tribe."
And Tom would have said "You have to keep me around for another TC before I just hand this thing over to you"

Tom was definitely legitimately concerned about what would happen to him, with everyone knowing he had the HII. He knew the idol had much more use as a bargaining chip than just as a method of protecting himself at a TC.
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03-05-2010 , 10:26 AM


Hottest doctor in the history of the universe imo. She rocks cam-toe like no other.

EDIT: Lots of good HQ shots of the other girls (mostly Amanda) here.
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03-05-2010 , 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Soncy
Ugly and fat are not deal breakers for me. I'm offended by stupidity and the unfunny. {smiling sweetly} Draw your own conclusions.
Don't forget the black gums. Huge turn off.
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03-05-2010 , 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by kartinken
James looked like Colossus in this challenge, lol. I swear I saw reflections of the camera crew in his chest.
You can really see Amanda's lipo surgery in that pix.
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03-05-2010 , 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
probst pwning rupert was awesome
IMO Jeff was trying hard to influence the vote.

I believe JT was on the fence about voting Colby. Jeff kept hammering if you vote your stronger member off, I will see you again next vote.

If the Heros loss their stronger members the challenges will be even more of a joke and they will have to merge early because the teams will be to lopsided.
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03-05-2010 , 10:48 AM
that;s the edit

tribal council is allegedly several hours and jeff allegedly always does stuff like that

but he really owned rupert
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03-05-2010 , 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Cardfish1
A great scene which is getting no love here is when Amanda tells Cirie that Tom offered to give up the idol.

Cirie: So, do you have it?
Amanda: Umm...No (dumb look on her face)

Had Cirie been there she would have called Tom's bluff and said "yes i'll take the idol and keep it safe for the tribe."
lol, this
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03-05-2010 , 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by TheUntouchable
I really don't get the people that sit around and try to figure out what's going to happen based on the edits. There's no such thing as reality TV. This is entertainment and let the producers/editors entertain you. You guys must be the same people trying to guess how the magician did the magic trick.
I used to think it was pointless too...but after watching a few of these bonus clips CBS lets out you can see they follow closely enough that there's room to forecast. Personally I stop short of re-watching old seasons and calling any skinny assless white woman the hottest of anything though.
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03-05-2010 , 11:36 AM
Whatever, we all enjoy the show in our own way. I've backed off from my stance of "everyone should be more aware of the editors' influence", switching to this more-accepting, "enjoy the show however you want to enjoy it" stance.

The editors are really ***** good. And they balance their ranges, which means I'm pretty much wrong about every single voteout on an episode-to-episode basis.
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03-05-2010 , 11:39 AM
re: the challenge, man amanda, candice and danielle looked fantastic. also, james looked like a black silver surfer. that dude was glistening from head to toe.
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03-05-2010 , 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Steven_Q_Erkel
I used to think it was pointless too...but after watching a few of these bonus clips CBS lets out you can see they follow closely enough that there's room to forecast. Personally I stop short of re-watching old seasons and calling any skinny assless white woman the hottest of anything though.
You say "skinny assless white woman" as if it's a bad thing.
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03-05-2010 , 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by boc4life
I feel like if any villain is gonna have a shot, it's gonna have to be Sandra. Rob's issue is that his edit is too visible and too positive.
I think Parvati is getting an excellent edit too, but I don't if she logically has much of a chance. Sandra is too invisible imo.
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03-05-2010 , 12:51 PM
Awesome episode. Now I can agree on JT being a great player as well, but I'm still convinced Stephen was the mastermind in his season, and they had a lot of strategy talk before this one.

Also Tom is really good as well. He just didn't need strategy in his own season because he won everything. He understands the game perfectly, but his only problem is that he's not too sneaky enough to flatout stab someone in the back. So he can never be a GOAT. But, his way of playing (not lieing more than necessary (sp?), staying somewhat honorable and charismatic) gives him a really good shot at winning if he gets to the finals.
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03-05-2010 , 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by SpaceJanitor
Cirie.

Now I'm afraid this season is going to suck afterall. Cirie gone, Russell in a terrible position...
I don't really understand why they even put any votes on Tom - or at least made it Colby 4/Tom 2, since imo it was extremely unlikely that Tom would have given the idol to Colby. But with JT as a mole it probabyl wouldn't have made a difference.

Anyone else think Probst used the tribal council deliberately to save his buddy Colby? Imo he went over the line there.
I actually kind of like it when Probst tells the players they are playing like fools, no matter who it may hurt...as long as they are playing like fools. And, no, I don't think it mattered. JT did what he did to get rid of
Cirie as much as to 'save' Colby. AND I am quite certain JT did what he thought was best for JT, even though the fingernail gnawing suggests that he thinks the decision was close and he's not sure. If it makes him feel any better, I'm sure. Cirie had too much control over the weak minds. It was only a matter of time before she targeted JT.
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03-05-2010 , 01:02 PM
Empire Man is so awesome. He just lurks and lurks and then, blam, the funny.
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03-05-2010 , 01:09 PM
Good episode from a strategic and tactical basis on both tribes. Cirie was the right vote, challenges she was a drag and plotters without other skills should be removed ASAP.

Russel is living up to his past hype, without the luck of the HII he would have been an also ran Fairplay, just more entertaining last season. Completely clueless about a game he claims to be the master. Sandra the snoop was inevitable. Boston Rob shows his mastery of the franchise in knowing exactly who to send to eavesdrop.

The setup from last weeks promo was a red herring for the nuthuggers to believe their hero was safe, I still think the foreshadow will occur before the merge. The writers on this show are good, I believe everyone who watches knows that. The villians all realize Russel has plans to disrupt rather than work as a team to advance. These experienced players know that numbers at the merge mean more than tyrant play, and if the jury is more your tribe than the other, there is better chance of receiving the crucial votes at the end. Again, Russel is such a weak player he thinks this is Lord of the Flies(him as Jack) instead of CBS survivor.

Finally, the girls are SMOKIN this season with more T&A camera work than in the past.
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03-05-2010 , 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by SpaceJanitor
I think Parvati is getting an excellent edit too, but I don't if she logically has much of a chance. Sandra is too invisible imo.
It's usually not a good sign when one episode is almost entirely about you, and then you're completely invisible the very next episode.
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