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05-14-2010 , 01:31 AM
the russell haters were quick to judge russell for using his idol, but nothing now that russell actually owned Sandra and decided to stick with voting out rupert and flushing her idol?

arrrright
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05-14-2010 , 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ArcticKnight
I kind of disagree. I think these players respect good play. If Russell is up there for comparison, Parv is looking like a much fairer player.

I'm just thinking that some heroes might think......." I can relcutanly live with how Parv played the game, but can't live with how Russell did."

Parv needs Russel and Jeri, but she could win with Sandra too.

If I was Parv, this would be my argument with Russell and Sandra with me.

Russell is here becuase there was a common feeling that he had no allies in any of you that he has not burned a bridge with. Also, I know some of you have concerns with how he played the game in that he outright threatened people. You all can decide if that crosses the line.

As far as Sandra, she is here because I wanted her here. I have no regrets about the about the manipulation and deception, and I was very good in challenges. If you are looking for a difference between Sandra and I, think about this. I didn't pretend I was on the outskirts with my alliance the whole time just so I could secure Jury votes. Sandra did. Sandra had no problem writing your names down as soon as she thought she had your jury vote. She played everyone one of you with the "my tribe wants me gone" line.

I gave her an idol, She's still here. Don't be so naive to think she was ever in trouble. Sandra was being protected the whole time so that I could have her sitting here, right beside me. I needed her instead of a hero, and that is why she is here. While she was busy trying to get your vote, I was busy saving her butt every week.

Think about this before you vote. Sandra approached almost all the heroes with a let's get rid of Russel plan. Did she come through? No. She voted you out and hoped you'd think it was Russell's doing. Did I come to you with any let's get Russell out plans? Did I promise to vote with you heroes and then not vote with you?

Sandra played the edges, and played you for fools. On the other hand, I think I just outplayed you all. I played more respectfully then Sandra and Russell.
+1

I will be very upset if Parv doesn't win at this point.
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05-14-2010 , 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Kirbynator
the russell haters were quick to judge russell for using his idol, but nothing now that russell actually owned Sandra and decided to stick with voting out rupert and flushing her idol?

arrrright
After this week the idol could no longer be played. It wouldn't have made sense for Sandra to keep the idol unless she had won the challenge.
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05-14-2010 , 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ArcticKnight
I kind of disagree. I think these players respect good play. If Russell is up there for comparison, Parv is looking like a much fairer player.

I'm just thinking that some heroes might think......." I can relcutanly live with how Parv played the game, but can't live with how Russell did."

Parv needs Russel and Jeri, but she could win with Sandra too.

If I was Parv, this would be my argument with Russell and Sandra with me.

Russell is here becuase there was a common feeling that he had no allies in any of you that he has not burned a bridge with. Also, I know some of you have concerns with how he played the game in that he outright threatened people. You all can decide if that crosses the line.

As far as Sandra, she is here because I wanted her here. I have no regrets about the about the manipulation and deception, and I was very good in challenges. If you are looking for a difference between Sandra and I, think about this. I didn't pretend I was on the outskirts with my alliance the whole time just so I could secure Jury votes. Sandra did. Sandra had no problem writing your names down as soon as she thought she had your jury vote. She played everyone one of you with the "my tribe wants me gone" line.

I gave her an idol, She's still here. Don't be so naive to think she was ever in trouble. Sandra was being protected the whole time so that I could have her sitting here, right beside me. I needed her instead of a hero, and that is why she is here. While she was busy trying to get your vote, I was busy saving her butt every week.

Think about this before you vote. Sandra approached almost all the heroes with a let's get rid of Russel plan. Did she come through? No. She voted you out and hoped you'd think it was Russell's doing. Did I come to you with any let's get Russell out plans? Did I promise to vote with you heroes and then not vote with you?

Sandra played the edges, and played you for fools. On the other hand, I think I just outplayed you all. I played more respectfully then Sandra and Russell.
I don't want to be at a FTC vs. Arctic Knight. Well spun.
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05-14-2010 , 01:46 AM
Survivor: Heroes vs. Villains - Life at Ponderosa: Rupert Pt. 1

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivo.../?vs=Ponderosa

1:00 - he thinks that he got eliminated because sandra used HII

2:45 danielle hates russell
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05-14-2010 , 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by DoGGz
After this week the idol could no longer be played. It wouldn't have made sense for Sandra to keep the idol unless she had won the challenge.
Sometimes it's best to just let people say their piece and not try to explain things to them. Much as I probably should have done in this case.
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05-14-2010 , 01:48 AM
I could see Russ winning a Parv/Sandra/Russ finale. I don't think he could beat either separate but I think there is a good chance Parv/Sandra would split votes.

I still think he is a longshot to win that, but I do think it is his best bet at this point.
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05-14-2010 , 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Kirbynator
the russell haters were quick to judge russell for using his idol, but nothing now that russell actually owned Sandra and decided to stick with voting out rupert and flushing her idol?

arrrright
really, flushing the idol????. It would be a trinket if not played.
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05-14-2010 , 01:56 AM
Survivor Heroes vs. Villains - Episode 14 (Finale) Full Promo [HD]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTijjib7vfY
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05-14-2010 , 02:03 AM
What is the deal with CBS trying to pass off a bunch of scenes from the episode as secret?

Re: Ponderosa

Check out those clean girls hugging Rupert a welcome and fussing over him. I bet he stinks to high heaven. Does Jeff read all the votes or not?

JT just said that Rupert looked sexy because he didn't have any womanfat hanging off his arm. Rupert just said that Sandra, Jerri, and Parv all want Russell in the final three. Probably makes himself feel better not thinking about how he might have erred in not exploring a Russell eviction with Sandra.

Awww, stroking Coach's ego by saying he should have been a hero. (Truth.) Poor Coach was robbed.

Clicking 2nd link: Come on Rupert ZZtoping in a music video one time. No dice.
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05-14-2010 , 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by The Financier
Sandra showing off again that she is an arrogant c*nt. How doesn't she get hate from the same people who hate Russell? She has douchey mannerisms while she does nothing.
Are you saying you don't like Russell?
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05-14-2010 , 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by The Financier
Sandra showing off again that she is an arrogant c*nt. How doesn't she get hate from the same people who hate Russell?
Because Russell haters are blinded by their hate for Russell and do not think about things the same way rational people do.

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he thinks that he got eliminated because sandra used HII
How can someone possibly be this stupid? It hurts my brain to think about how someone can't figure out, "Hmm, they showed three votes for me and two for Sandra, so the fourth was for me, too." But Rupert is basically a cartoon character, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
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05-14-2010 , 02:27 AM
cigarette
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05-14-2010 , 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Kos13
Because Russell haters are blinded by their hate for Russell and do not think about things the same way rational people do.
We just aren't in a constant state of delusion as you Russel lovers are. Your nut huggin fits with Russel's latest secret scene.

edit: Maybe not as hardcore as your boy, atleast you all have given up that he can win. His crush at the reveal will be epic.
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05-14-2010 , 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Soncy
Are you saying you don't like Russell?
No. Russell embraces his arrogance and he plays an extremely powerful game where his arrogance is used as a tool. Whereas Sandra acts the same way but does nothing.
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05-14-2010 , 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by cres
We just aren't in a constant state of delusion as you Russel lovers are. Your nut huggin fits with Russel's latest secret scene.

edit: Maybe not as hardcore as your boy, atleast you all have given up that he can win. His crush at the reveal will be epic.
please teach me the ways of your enlightment
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05-14-2010 , 03:13 AM
OK. I will now run through every possible jury vote scenario as I see it, but I have to say that I'm usually pretty bad at this. I hate to bring up so many past connections, but there was a lot of talk about them earlier in the season, and I think they'll play a big part in many of the votes. Of course in making these predictions, I'm assuming that nobody pulls an Amanda and completely tanks at the final tribal council.

Here we go:

With a F3 of Russell/Jerri/Parvati

Coach: Jerri (His closest ally)
Colby: Jerri? (past connections)
Danielle: Parv (Obv)
Sandra: Parv (Seems closer with Parv than anyone else left)
Amanda: Parv (Friends from Micronesia)
Candice: Parv? (Friends from Cook Islands)
Courtney: Parv? (Seemed closer with Parv than Jerri)
J.T.: Russ? Parv? (Only shot Russ has at picking up a vote here imo, I think J.T. gives it to him out of respect)
Rupert: Maybe Jerri? Parv? This is a tough one.

So I have Parvati winning this scenario 5-3-1. Maybe 6-2-1.

F3 of Russell/Jerri/Sandra

Parvati: Sandra? Russ? (I'd lean towards Sandra, especially if Russ is responsible for her exit)
Danielle: Sandra? (Jerri/Russ both voted her out)
Courtney: Sandra (Closest ally)
Rupert: Sandra (Friends from Pearl Islands)
Colby: Jerri (Australia)
Coach: Jerri (Ally)
J.T.: Russ? (Best game play)
Amanda: Sandra? Jerri? (Not sure. Possibly Sandra because she wanted to flip but Candice screwed it up.)
Candice: Russ maybe? (She seems like she would vote for best game play)

I have Sandra most likely winning in this scenario 5-2-2

F3: Russ/Jerri/Colby

Parv: Russ (Dislikes Jerri, and I can't see her voting for Colby over Russ)
Danielle: Colby? (I could see her voting for Colby out of spite, plus she seemed to like flirting with him in secret scenes)
Courtney: Jerri (Obv not voting for Russ, and I doubt she'd vote for Colby over a villain)
Candice: Colby? (Hero. Flipped to the villains, but I don't see her voting against Colby here)
Rupert: Colby (Ally and fellow hero)
Amanda: Colby (Hero)
Sandra: Jerri (Same as Courtney)
Coach: Jerri (Ally)
J.T.: Colby (Hero)

I have Colby winning this scenario 5-3-1

F3: Russ/Parv/Colby

Danielle: Parv (obv)
Jerri: Russ? (Past connection with Colby, but I think she'd give it to her ally Russ)
Courtney: Parv (Seemed closer with Parv than Jerri)
Rupert: Colby (Hero)
J.T.: Colby (Hero)
Sandra: Parv (Closer with Parv than the other two)
Amanda: Parv? (I think she'd vote Parv here because of their Micronesia connection, and she respects her game play)
Candice: Parv? Colby? (Tough, but I think she'd vote Parv because she'd respect her game the most, plus they were friends in Cook Islands)
Coach: No idea. Maybe Russ?

I have Parvati most likely winning in this scenario 5-2-2

F3: Russ/Parv/Sandra

Danielle: Parv (Obv)
J.T.: Russ? Parv? (I'd lean towards Russ. He'd respect Russ for playing him)
Jerri: Russ (Ally)
Amanda: Parv (Micronesia)
Candice: Parv? (Game play, Cook Islands connection)
Rupert: Sandra (Pearl Islands)
Courtney: Sandra (Ally)
Coach: Russ? (Sandra made him cry, and he isn't a big Parvati fan. He did shake Russell's hand on his way out)
Colby: Parv? (Prob won't vote for Russ after he shafted Rupert and Colby tonight. I think he'd respect Parv's game play the most)

This scenario seems like Russell's best shot at winning, but I have Parv taking it 4-3-2.

F3: Russ/Sandra/Colby

Parv: Russ? Sandra? (Would vote for a villain, and seems to hate Russ now, so my guess is Sandra)
Danielle: Sandra? (Sandra voted with her when she was booted, so I'm guessing she'll give her the vote)
Courtney: Sandra (Ally)
Jerri: Russ? (Ally)
Amanda: Colby (Hero)
Rupert: Colby (Hero)
J.T.: Colby (Hero)
Candice: Colby? (Hero. Candice did flip, but I still think she'd vote with the heroes if Colby makes it to the finals in this scenario)
Coach: Russ? (Can't see him voting for the other two)

I have Colby winning this scenario 4-3-2

F3: Jerri/Sandra/Parv

Russ: Parv (Respects her the most)
Danielle: Parv (Obv)
Coach: Jerri (Ally)
Courtney: Sandra (Ally)
Rupert: Sandra (Pearl Islands)
Amanda: Parv (Game play, Micronesia)
Colby: Jerri (Australia)
Candice: Parv (Game play, Cook Islands)
J.T.: Parv (Game play)

This seems like the easiest to predict. I have Parv taking it 5-2-2.

F3: Jerri/Sandra/Colby

Russ: Jerri (Ally)
Coach: Jerri (Ally)
Parv: Sandra (Closer with Sandra)
Danielle: Sandra? (Probably will vote with Parv)
Candice: Colby (Hero)
Amanda: Colby (Hero)
Rupert: Colby (Hero)
J.T.: Colby (Hero)
Courtney: Sandra (Ally)

I have Colby winning this scenario 4-3-2.

F3: Jerri/Parv/Colby

Coach: Jerri (Ally)
Russ: Parv (Respects her the most)
Danielle: Parv (Obv)
Courtney: Parv? (Seemed to like Parv more than she liked Jerri)
Rupert: Colby (Hero)
J.T.: Colby (Hero)
Amanda: Parv (Game play, Micronesia)
Candice: Parv (Game play, Cook Islands)
Sandra: Parv (Closer with Parv than Jerri)

I have Parvati winning this scenario 6-2-1.

F3: Colby/Sandra/Parvati

Russell: Parv (Obv)
Danielle: Parv (Obv)
Amanda: Parv (Micronesia)
Candice: Parv (Game play, Cook Islands)
Coach: Parv? (He'd never vote for Sandra. I actually think he votes for Parv out of respect here)
Courtney: Sandra (Ally)
J.T.: Colby (Hero)
Rupert: Colby (Hero)
Jerri: Tough one. Colby? (Doesn't seem close with Sandra or Parv. I'll guess Colby because of the Australia connection)

I have Parvati winning this scenario 5-3-1.

Of the ten scenarios, I have Parvati winning six, Colby winning three and Sandra winning one. Russell and Jerri can't win imo. However, I'd say Colby is highly unlikely to make it to the F3. His only real shot at making the F3 is if he wins both immunity challenges (good luck with that). The only way Sandra wins is in the Sandra/Russ/Jerri scenario. Unfortunately, I think this is the most likely outcome. I think Colby will be out in 5th and Parv out in 4th (or vice-versa). The villains obviously don't want a hero (Colby) sitting with them in the finals and Parvati is the biggest jury threat. I think Parv will have to win the F4 immunity challenge to make the F3, and that's assuming they don't vote her off instead of Colby in 5th.

I'm really hoping Parv takes this down. I'd be OK with Colby winning, but I'd be disappointed. I'll vomit if Sandra wins and seriously consider never watching the show again.

Now that I've gone through all of this, I'm guessing Jerri will beat Parv and Colby in the F3 by a vote of 9-0-0.

I have spoken.
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05-14-2010 , 03:20 AM
Colby winning would be hilarious. He has no idea what is going on around him is laughable. Today at both the challenges he had huge lol moments. Even Probst was laughing.
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05-14-2010 , 03:29 AM
Good stuff, Shane, though I don't think Colby wins as often as you're predicting. Russell and Parvati are the only ones that deserve it imo, and as much as I've grown to love Parvati, I will say I don't think she's played exceptionally well this time around. She's dodged a couple "game over" bullets thanks to other people (Boston Rob single-handedly causing the Randy boot, Russell saving her with the idol, and Russell booting Danielle instead of her), and she's really let Russell make all the big moves. She's clearly played the second best game imo, but I don't think she's played as well as she did in Micronesia.

GOGOGOGO RUSSELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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05-14-2010 , 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by DoGGz
After this week the idol could no longer be played. It wouldn't have made sense for Sandra to keep the idol unless she had won the challenge.
if sandra won does she give the idol to anyone? or even better, pull an erik and give the immunity necklace to someone, only to play the idol after..
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05-14-2010 , 03:32 AM
DONALDSON!!!!!!!
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05-14-2010 , 03:37 AM
parv/russell deserve to win, either is fine imo. LETS GO SUNDAY FINALEE
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05-14-2010 , 03:37 AM
I just did a huge facepalm at Rupert's Ponderosa scene.

"The people who are here to play the game of Survivor, not conniver."

I don't think I'll ever get to or want to get in the head of somebody who thinks like this, but in the minds of these people, what the **** is Survivor then?
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05-14-2010 , 03:42 AM
Also, if Colby wins a ****ing All Star season after the performance that he put up then the show will have officially jumped the shark. I just hate so much that people on the jury will blindly vote for a former teammate rather than trying to piece together who played the best game, but we've had this debate a gazillion times and it's never going to get solved or settled.
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05-14-2010 , 03:43 AM
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or even better, pull an erik and give the immunity necklace to someone, only to play the idol after..
Yeah, I'm still waiting for someone to pull off this move. It would take some serious misdirection, but it would be fantastic if done correctly.
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