J'Tia is going to win survivor hands-down. I've never seen so much crazy so quickly in a season...

and this. I think hes my favorite after one episode

In the first elimination I felt like Garrett played it very well to get David out. And as the second tribal was happening, I started thinking that Garrett had done what he had to do, albeit in a sloppy way. Tasha was in fact scheming to swing Kass over to her side. So depending on the point in which Tasha turned against the boys, Garrett's lockdown was a defensible (if not correct) move. That being said, the lockdown might've been what made Tasha turn. So he did his table captain strategy in such a sloppy way that it backfired, and to make his performance worse, potentially buried himself with a really bad tribal council.

So I don't think he is a terrible player, but he definitely played badly in this sample, plus he ran bad (in terms of J'Tia blowing the challenge and Kass making a questionable vote).

isnt Rule #1 of surivor "Don't tell the person whose going home, they're going home". And I feel like shortly after rule #1 it says, "dont tell people whose in your alliance", both of which Garrett grossly violated

Yeah he committed a lot of basic errors, those being at the top of the list. Also coming into the game with washboard abs rather than some fat that you can burn off. Not being prepared for the Survival aspect. Not realizing that being likeable is more important than controlling the vote. Letting J'Tia do that puzzle. Most of those seem like correctable mistakes though. Hell, if he had survived the vote, most of those seem like things that could be corrected mid-game.

Meh, re-reading my last post makes me sound like I'm trying to pick up where KOS left off. Garrett butchered it. Most of those mistakes can't be corrected mid-game.

OMG you guys I just figured it out. g-man has totally levelled all of us. His pathetic, potentially WOAT performance was completely on purpose! You guys, he's a high stakes poker player. He doesn't give a crap about a milly. I GUARANTEE that he must have made a prop bet with someone at the tables, or a fellow high stakes buddy, that he could go on Survivor and had to get voted out in the first episode! Think about it.

He and a friend were probably waxing one day about being on Survivor, and his friend probably gave him a complement that he's such a beast, and naturally likeable dude that he could try to do everything in his power to get voted off and STILL be kept around for at least a few tribals. Garrett got to thinking, hmmm maaaaaybe not. Wanna bet? Let's throw a few mill-dogs on it!

Draw up some stipulations. Like Garrett can't hit anyone, or mushroom stamp an unsuspecting sleeping tribe mate, etc. Or even do something within the rules but would make him getting kicked off inevitable, like dropping the n-bomb once an hour, or talking about a kiddie porn ring he runs. Nothing that could ruin his life after the show.

This protects both him and his friend. His friend, for obvious reasons, but also if he made it too obvious, CBS would know something was up and he'd get in trouble. It has to be played for real for him to win the bet. It also keeps him available to capitolize on other opportunities, maybe even back door into being asked back for a future season entitled, "2nd chance for those with such horrific games that they are 0% to ever win Survivor." Which would actually be a brilliant idea. I mean, get 16 of those freaks together, Colton, NaOnka, Philip, Russell, etc. and ONE of them has to win! CBS, I am officially copyrighting that idea, so if you use that I will sue the crap out of you.

Anyway, g-man, I applaud you and I hope you're rubbing the millions you just made all over your man-titties. I really really hope you added a stipulation into the prop bet contract that you had to be voted out in the first episode, and not just first voted out or else you're so SOL! Although I wouldn't hold it past you after the first guy got voted out to risk it and try getting voted out 2nd anyway, then offering the producers some of your cut from the prop bet to make sure that the first episode had 2 vote outs. Because you are brilliant.

I'm only assuming that the above scenario is true because it's mathematically more likely than what we saw tonight being a genuine attempt at good gameplay.

Indeed. Listening to Corinne on RHAP label "one of the best online poker pros" as akin to "one of the best hand models" irked me a bit, and it sucks that such a viewpoint now gets some validation. And why the f do you fake-cough when Jeff asks if anyone has an idol??

This. I definitely don't get why the women don't vote out Spencer, unless:

1st part: I loved how Garrett turned it around on David and got him kicked off.

2nd part: why why WHY was J'Tia the one selected to do the puzzle? Kass and Tasha are such huge morons for voting off Garrett. Okay, so he tried to get y'all to talk out in the open and mentioned an alliance; so what, that f'ing dumb bitch poured the rice out! Gah he ran so bad to be voted out second. That was tilting. The first time I watched the show since the second season, and I don't think I can watch anymore this season. At least not as long as Kass, Tasha and J'Tia are around.

He kinda did everything in his power to run that bad, though. It's like saying you run bad because you limp with aces every time you get them, then complain that tey keep getting cracked.

I know, I know ban for poker analogy.

garett ran bad and played bad.

tony was hilarious.

spencer is a chess guy. he should be good at puzzles. i thought for sure he would be doing some puzzles. he would be in a good position in the show if he had done the second puzzle instead of j'tia.

lol at david saying he would hire j'tia. what a douche.

I, for one, hope that KOS continues to post adamantly in favour of Garrett's play. I mean he got voted out ahead of someone who immediately started as a bossy person who rubbed everyone the wrong way, designed a terrible shelter, who single-handedly cost them a win in the challenge, and who dumped 98% of their rice. Getting voted out instead of that takes a special kind of player. All that and he supposedly didn't even take his idol to tribal

I'll hazard a guess and say the cough was from a different spot at tribal and edited into that spot.

You do understand that when someone literally says that there is an alliance of 3 and you're not one of us then it's good strategy to try and change things?

Why wouldn't Tasha try and switch things up when her position in the tribe was clear. Kass' spot is more debatable but Tasha is now in the power position of the tribe and won't be going anywhere until they dissipate the tribes whereas before she would likely go home next time Brains lost.

Could argue that it would have been better to vote off Spencer but Garrett was being such a Debby Downer.

Also like Fishbach I think some of those 2000 hours should have been spent eating more food. People should know by now that going in with some fat is super +EV.

just lol, yeah obv

LOLLLL Garrett. Feel kinda bad for Spencer.

Think Kass played that pretty badly though from what we saw. I would much rather be 3rd in a tribe with Garrett and Spencer than one with Tasha and J'Tia+no rice. Lol at them winning a challenge ever

There was going to be no rice regardless. I really doubt kass is 3rd in the alliance. I'd actually be surprised if they kept jtia over spencer next vote.

Garrett sucks.

Spencer is good and hope he makes the merge. Most of the other tribes seem cool but god the brains suck.

someone plz make a gif out of Garrett's vote for J'tia. He seriously looked like an axe murderer when he held it up.

He's doing the smart thing and not putting himself in a position where he could get criticized. For the first 15 days I wouldn't go anywhere near a role where someone could make an easy call to vote you out. Stand in the back and fly under the radar and let someone else do the other stuff.

True, but the problem is when you put a dumbass like J'tia in a position to lose your tribe the challenge, she will, and then you start losing allies. I'm sure if Spencer had it to do over he'd volunteer to be puzzle solver.

You know gifs dont have sound, right?

Yeah, I'm guessing J'tia bullied her way into being the one doing the puzzle, like she did when took charge of the shelter building and when she took over some part in the first challenge from Kass. She honestly thinks, "I'm a nuclear physicist, I'm smart! I'll prove to everyone how much of an asset I am!" Rest of tribe, "well, she either comes through or strings up her own noose".

I wanted to be rooting for Garret this season, but that was the worst Survivor collapse I can ever remember. I mean, when they came back up from the water to see the rice thrown in the fire, even Tasha had a look on her face like, "damn, did I really just align myself with bat **** crazy?"

Seriously??

Just an example of a player who got out there, realized what it was going to be like and just emotionally quit.