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10-02-2009 , 08:32 AM

#326

Dids

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Terrible ep. Just feels like the writers had a bad idea, and now have backed themselves into the corner. Both in terms of the co-managers and merit based raises vs equality. On paper that might seem like a good idea for an ep- but it just wasn't executed well enough.

Just way too many times where I thought "this is too dumb to be real" and was busy being annoyed at the plotting instead of enjoying the show.

Dwight really felt off as well. Whole thing had a feel like they let somebody new write an ep, and they should not let that person do that ever again.

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10-02-2009 , 08:41 AM

#327

STA654

Here's some straight talk

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I thought the obv play was just to give everybody an equal raise (albeit reduced).

They are cost of living raises, simply meant to keep the purchasing power of salaries consistent, they're not really supposed to be performance based.

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10-02-2009 , 08:45 AM

#328

Dids

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Yeah- that's another valid point. That whole bit read like somebody never bothered to really think about how this would work in a real office. Just felt like very lazy writing.

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10-02-2009 , 10:38 AM

#329

Nez477

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Would like to agree with the sentiment of that being one of the worst episodes of the office ever. WTF was up with Jim seriously going out and telling everyone that only the sales team was getting raises. GMAFB.

Really awkward, really unbelievable and barely funny.

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10-02-2009 , 10:42 AM

#330

Dids

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See, I think in the hands of better writers that could be a great bit.

Jim is trying to be the anti-Michael. Rather that dick around, he's just going to be honest, make a "tough decision" and communicate like an adult- only to find out that that's impossible given the environment that Jim has helped create.

They just didn't pull it off, and it just looked horrible.

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10-02-2009 , 10:59 AM

#331

Dr. Spaceman

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Originally Posted by STA654

Yeah, Michael suggested giving everyone 1.5% increases, but then after Jim's idea bombed it seemed like he and Jim just forgot about that option altogether.

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10-02-2009 , 11:02 AM

#332

alexrmM

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I thought it was the kind of show that would keep up the quality, but the beginning of this season is v disapointing

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10-02-2009 , 12:01 PM

#333

Wires

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Originally Posted by alexrmM

I thought it was the kind of show that would keep up the quality, but the beginning of this season is v disapointing

Until this episode the beginning of this season has been pretty damn good.

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10-02-2009 , 12:17 PM

#334

Metnut

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Originally Posted by Wires

Until this episode the beginning of this season has been pretty damn good.

Exactly. Yesterday a pretty bad episode, but the show has been surprisingly fresh and funny so far this season. Pretty much every comedy has a few sub-par episodes every now and then. Its not big deal.

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10-02-2009 , 12:27 PM

#335

Freakin

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Originally Posted by Chargers In 09

I liked this episode if only for michael saying something like "we came in here and gave you a golden shower" to phylis. "money" was pretty bad in season 4 as was "dinner party".

No I'm pretty sure she said it was Asturd.

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10-02-2009 , 12:39 PM

#336

gooosefrabbaa

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once again another deleted scene that might have made the episode a little better

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10-02-2009 , 01:04 PM

#337

Assani Fisher

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I guess I'm different, but theres not a single episode of the Office that I don't like including this last one. Watching it again right now as we speak....

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10-02-2009 , 01:11 PM

#338

General Tsao

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once again another deleted scene that might have made the episode a little better

not really.

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10-02-2009 , 01:25 PM

#339

Dids

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Yeah, that just makes Dwight look more insane really.

It's like they forgot that Dwight was almost fired last year- and that he's smart enough to know that he wouldn't have a chance of promotion.

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10-02-2009 , 01:43 PM

#340

BANGARANG

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jim is reminding me too much of ryan when he was working for corporate and that's just not cool. all he's missing is the black shirt and 6'o'clock shadow

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10-02-2009 , 02:40 PM

#341

Freakin

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Originally Posted by gooosefrabbaa

once again another deleted scene that might have made the episode a little better

This scene was as bad as the rest of the episode. Dwight talking with food in his mouth was awful

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10-02-2009 , 03:10 PM

#342

zethro

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Originally Posted by gooosefrabbaa

once again another deleted scene that might have made the episode a little better

I just liked Andy's line that the Big Tuna was starting to stink. Beyond that it was a pretty weak scene.

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10-02-2009 , 03:52 PM

#343

mclaughlin04

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Why haven't we....we have getting no love

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10-02-2009 , 06:56 PM

#344

TheCanoe

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obv if that was the first ep I had ever seen, I would never watch it again.

I will give the writers the benefit of the doubt and hope the funny will be back soon.

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10-02-2009 , 07:10 PM

#345

NameOnTheCake

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Originally Posted by STA654

yeah this bothered me too

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10-02-2009 , 07:57 PM

#346

istewart

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This episode was terrible.

I assume Yeti loved it.

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10-02-2009 , 08:10 PM

#347

JSchnett

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This show sucks and has been steadily declining since season 3.

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10-02-2009 , 09:32 PM

#348

Tokyo!!

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I guess I am in the minority, but I thought this episode was decent. Not great by any means, but I thoroughly hated last week's episode (and totally loved the season opener). I do agree the co-manager plotline is dumb, but it is a different direction, and I always like seeing Jim fail at everything that he makes fun of Micheal for failing at.

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10-02-2009 , 09:45 PM

#349

Yeti

Abominable

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Originally Posted by istewart

This episode was terrible.

I assume Yeti loved it.

i didn't like it but it was nowhere near as bad as you morons are making out.

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10-02-2009 , 10:29 PM

#350

Billygoatus

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Originally Posted by Yeti

i didn't like it but it was nowhere near as bad as you morons are making out.

As a brit I am pretty much automatically better placed than you to judge the relative comedic merits or lack of in this show. I have watched every episode in every season of both versions and can honestly say I have not seen a worse episode.

As previously stated if you can provide the name of an episode which offered even less than this one then please do as I am at a loss to do so.

Labelling everyone morons for stating fact is quite blinkered when the evidence is quite clear that this episode was just not funny.

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