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02-13-2016 , 08:57 PM

#5476

5ive

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Originally Posted by 5ive

I'm just getting started. Are you even reading the thread?

Do you know what the biggest and most common argumentative fallacy is? Falsely claiming another party is committing an argumentative fallacy. Like, it totally dwarfs the others.

I've pretty much bent over backwards trying to avoid disclosing (though I life tilted and did last night) I'm also a relative expert in this field.

And I haven't went there in my posts today. I mean I could for teh lulz but that would just be counting crows.

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02-13-2016 , 08:59 PM

#5477

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M. Did he make you do this?
B. Ya.
M. Then why didn't you tell him that.
B. Tell him what/
M. That Steven made you do it. You know he made you do a lot of things.
B. Ya, I told them that. I even told them about Steven touching me and that.
M. What do you mean touching you?
B. He would grab me somewhere where I was uncomfortable.
M. Brendan I am your mother.
B. Ya.
M. Why didn't you come to me? Why didn't you tell me? Was this all befo.re this
happened?
B. What do you mean?
M. All before this happened, did he touch you before all this stuff happened to you.
B. Ya.
M. Why didn't you come to me, because then he would have been gone then and this
wouldn't have happened. B. Ya ..
M. Yes, 11nd you would still be here with me.
B. Yes, Well you know I did it.
M. Huh
B. You know he always touched us and that.
M. I didn't think there. He used to horse around with you guys.
B. Ya, but you remember he would always do stuff to Bt.ia.n and that.
M. What do you mean.
B. Well he would like fake pumping him
M. Goofing around
B. Ya but, like that one time when he was going with what's her name Jessica .. s sister.
M. Teresa?
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B. Yn. That one day when she was over, Steven and Blaine and Brian and I was downstairs
and Steven was touching her and that.

Given context, ya you're right. Its clear he wasn't talking about anything sexual..

smh

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02-13-2016 , 09:00 PM

#5478

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Originally Posted by fraleyight

So he just randomly decided to tell his mom that him and SA got a little rough during wrestling? haha, ok bro.

Bro.

Credibility shot.

I mean I was only engaging with you as you seemed to be a ****ing relative rhodes scholar compared to PoorSkillz and goddamn lolrevots (are you familiar with him from the politics forum?) but somehow you managed in the last day to drop below them. Which I suppose makes you The King in that bizarro world you guys seem to occupy.

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02-13-2016 , 09:03 PM

#5479

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5ive,

He was clearly telling his mom why this happened and why he did what SA said.

So you are arguing, actually arguing, that he is trying to tell his mom he did what SA said because they would fake wrestle? Like, I am legit getting upset at you because you are the kind of person that wouldn't take this kind of thing seriously if a child came to you about it.. Shame on you dude.

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02-13-2016 , 09:04 PM

#5480

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I don't go into the politics form so no, i do not know him outside of this thread.

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02-13-2016 , 09:07 PM

#5481

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Originally Posted by fraleyight

Given context, ya you're right. Its clear he wasn't talking about anything sexual..

smh

As per your bolded...

Her.

Nephew.

Her.

Nephew.

Her.

This is kiddie game ****.

Like, do you want to say he was molesting his niece and not his nephew now? That's fine, it will save me the trouble of looking up and quoting the transcript about the wrestlotation.

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02-13-2016 , 09:11 PM

#5482

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Originally Posted by fraleyight

Given context, ya you're right. Its clear he wasn't talking about anything sexual..

smh

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5ive

Given context, ya you're right. Its clear he wasn't talking about anything sexual..

Context, I am talking about the context... JFC.. lol

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02-13-2016 , 09:12 PM

#5483

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he just switched from wrestling to molesting? Like wtf are you talking about? He was clearly talking about him molesting them.

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02-13-2016 , 09:13 PM

#5484

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Originally Posted by fraleyight

I don't go into the politics form so no, i do not know him outside of this thread.

LOL 5ive how about sticking to the topic, which is how you know SA and BD are innocent, and anyone who disagrees is a mouthbreathing neanderthal. You have such a pleasant way of discussing the case and the show, you're really adding a lot to this thread. I'm really glad you chimed in.

By the way fraley if you think having a reasonable opinion that does not fit with the majority is interesting in this thread... you should try diving into the rabbit hole that is politics.

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02-13-2016 , 09:15 PM

#5485

lostinthesaus

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Originally Posted by fraleyight

BD also told his mom that SA molested him, on the phone while in prison. I guess I missed the part where cops told him to tell his mom this as well.

False

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02-13-2016 , 09:16 PM

#5486

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Originally Posted by lostinthesaus

True

FYP

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02-13-2016 , 09:21 PM

#5487

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Can any of the Mantiowoc 3 show me photo's of where the bones were found on SA property? A. No

And can anyone produce the transcript that shows me where BD's DNA was found ANYWHERE on or near SA property. A. No

Thank **** CCuster_911 is contained.... looooooooool
Btw don't go near that thread.

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02-13-2016 , 09:22 PM

#5488

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Yo Fraley/Revots why was The Sheriff in contact with the juror's during SA trial?

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02-13-2016 , 09:24 PM

#5489

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Yo revots33 since you like the politic's forum why not ask them why this is very unusual to say the least.(Sheriff talking to the jury. JFC)

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02-13-2016 , 09:24 PM

#5490

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Originally Posted by smacc25

Yo Fraley/Revots why was The Sheriff in contact with the juror's during SA trial?

Where did you read this?

Also, there are photos of the burn pit.. Is that what you are asking for?

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02-13-2016 , 09:25 PM

#5491

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Originally Posted by revots33

Of course she could truthfully believe he is innocent. A lot of people were swayed by the documentary, why not her?

Especially given her background working on wrongful convictions, she's probably more predisposed to believe his innocence. She's still almost certainly wrong.

You know she has reviewed more evidence than just the documentary right?

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02-13-2016 , 09:26 PM

#5492

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Or how about the FACT that A.Colborn was a customer of the AVERY'S before the tragic events of 10-31-05.

Do any of The mantiowoc3 think that this affected his election campaign?

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02-13-2016 , 09:27 PM

#5493

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Originally Posted by revots33

Well this thread is full of (I assume) intelligent people, who think he is innocent based on the documentary, so why not her?

He's been in jail for a decade already, she only became interested after the documentary. There is no secret evidence in the transcripts that only she could identify. At this point the entire transcripts have been dissected ad nauseum online and in the media.

She runs a law firm and a chapter of the innocence project. You think she should be up to speed on every non publicized case in the Midwest,

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02-13-2016 , 09:28 PM

#5494

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How about the fact that BD and a female relative of SA claims he molested them? Do you think that at all played into the tragic events of 10-31-2005?

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02-13-2016 , 09:29 PM

#5495

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Originally Posted by markksman

You know she has reviewed more evidence than just the documentary right?

Of course I never said she didn't. I never said she was basing her entire opinion on the documentary.

I am saying she almost certainly saw the documentary, and was no less likely to be angered by it than many itt seem to have been.

Almost everyone itt who still thinks Avery was framed, has read most of the pertinent transcripts at this point. It seems pretty obvious that, if the documentary convinces you of his innocence, it is highly unlikely doing more research into the case will change your mind. If you come to the transcripts from the mindset of a conspiracy to frame SA, you can interpret them in that way.

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02-13-2016 , 09:30 PM

#5496

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Originally Posted by smacc25

Or how about the FACT that A.Colborn was a customer of the AVERY'S before the tragic events of 10-31-05.

Do any of The mantiowoc3 think that this affected his election campaign?

You've asked this a few times and I still have no idea what you are getting at.

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02-13-2016 , 09:31 PM

#5497

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Originally Posted by fraleyight

he just switched from wrestling to molesting? Like wtf are you talking about? He was clearly talking about him molesting them.

It's hard to follow the context because they both speak fairly ******ed. But if I read that correct, it sounds like when they were wrestling Steve would sometimes jokingly 'dry hump' Brendan, and it made Brendan uncomfortable.

I'm not saying that's not wrong, but I didn't read anything about molestation there.

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02-13-2016 , 09:32 PM

#5498

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Originally Posted by EfromPegTown

Look at what he said about his niece.. That imo makes it pretty obvious he is talking about molestation.

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02-13-2016 , 09:32 PM

#5499

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Originally Posted by fraleyight

BD also told his mom that SA molested him, on the phone while in prison. I guess I missed the part where cops told him to tell his mom this as well.

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Originally Posted by smacc25

KZ had 200+ cases to review before the SA case landed on her desk, I wonder how many cases she has now.
Especially with the FBI admitting recently to the Hair matching scandal.
http://www.wcvb.com/news/more-wrongf...erway/37952242

Also ML the fbi-edta guy has been found out by 1 judge already of being biased for the State so it will be just a matter of time before he's again found out of being biased for the state in the avery case, IMO.
http://caselaw.findlaw.com/fl-distri...l/1260298.html

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Originally Posted by smacc25

http://www.convolutedbrian.com/the-a...-step-one.html
A little more info.... Sheriff Pagel contacted the juror to inform him of the accident, when it is the court bailiff's job to do so.(& was not the 1st time he had done so). WTF.
Then judge Willis spoke to the juror without the defense attorneys present. And later contacted JB/DS by phone.

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Originally Posted by fraleyight

Where did you read this? From Judge willis in the SA appeal from 2009 that he asked for more time of so 2010.

Is that what you are asking for?Yes

Here's is also a link to the FBI guy getting a little out of order in a florida court room(lucky he works for the FB****INGI).

Burp!!! Excuse me I've had a few.