iggy,
While I can see your point re: LSD scene it is a million times better than them having an LSD freakout. It's pretty funny that LSD was very useful for Roger/Jane, I don't think I have ever seen that happen in a movie/tv show in a non-ironic way.

huh?

He thinks he's being funny.

I thought it was interesting that the three episodes were all dealing with relationship conflicts. one couple wants different things but can't admit it yet. another couple just accepted that they are done. and the third seemed happy because they were on this magical honeymoon, but now the realities of life show them that they come from and have to eventually return to very different lives.

Roger's lsd episode was amazingly funny. Don's episode disgusted me, probably because i saw a lot of truth in it. (pun intended). Peggy's episode was very interesting because it's the other side of something that happened at her job/office.

one of the funniest parts of the lsd scene for me was when roger lit up a smoke and his cig was instantly finished. never done lsd myself but i know the feeling

I approve

The Wire tho.

LOLtheWire

The Wire isn't even David Simon's best show. *ducks to avoid 61 posts from Wire-heads*

Which do you think is better?

The more blatant you make it that you're just trolling, the easier you make it for me to rationalize banning you. Knock if off. This isn't BBV4L.

pj,

Homicide right?

Honestly the quality of these last few eps, I'm considering the notion of Mad Men as #1. Kinda silly though- because they're trying to do such different things. I think Weiner could Simon a lot better than Simon could Weiner though.

National Review Online thinks Pete Campbell might commit suicide...

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner...ichael-potemra

(politard ban)

I know it's weird, but I could not stop thinking - why is Don waiting at the Howard Johnson? Does he really think she is coming back there? Isn't it obvious she got a ride back to the apartment?

I have no idea if this meant something or was me just missing the pt

I think I still need to process the rest of the ep

Intriguing theory. I can see it happening.

+1

TV/Movies generally do an awful job of depicting an acid trip and Mad Men proved to be no exception.

Specifically, the black sox stuff in the tub was just awful hack nonsense.

Acid trips and poker hands are the 2 biggest cringe worthy things TV/Movie people screw up.

I did laugh at the don't look in the mirror. It's wierd.

I was hoping once Roger lit the cigerette he was gonna wave it infront of his face to see trails.

So what should they have shown for the Acid trip? What was notably wrong? Acid was one of two drugs my father claims to have been too scared to do (heroin the other), so I figured I'd take his lead and have avoided it so far.

Show loses a ton without pete and there's already a confirmed season 6 right? Feel like we're being beat over the face with it and supposed to think it's going to happen but probably won't end up happening.

I thought they were going to do more with the sound for sure, especially when they were playing music in the living room.

The main problem is that TV/Movies seem to take the hallucinogen categorization way too literal.

Its always stuff like OMG a cigarette just disappeared, or I'm watching an entire baseball game in my bathroom.

In reality, hallucinations are much smaller and subtle. Its difficult to explain, which is why TV gets it wrong so frequently, but it isn't like seeing a giant fictional object. Its more like when you have a floater in your eye, that weird thing that is in the corner of your vision on a sunny day, only times a hundred.

The big thing is that its not nearly as visual as TV makes it out to be. Its very auditory, and feel based. Textures are fascinating to tripping people. Sound is mildly distorted like someone put an effects pedal between you ears and your brain.

There is also a huge effect on your ability to judge time. Something like the cigarette disappearing quickly might seem like its happening to a tripping person, but not as a visual. Instead, its more like I just lit and smoked that entire cigarette but I feel like I just lit it a second ago.

TNM: the problem is that television is not a feel medium. it's a visual and auditory medium. the cigarette thing, imo, did not 'disappear quickly' - it was, to me, a reflection of how roger sterling was experiencing time.

yeah I was surprised that a show as smart as this resorted to representing it how squares would have in the 60s, kind of ironic

I also thought they were gonna do something more with the music in the Acid trip scene. They were before the acid rock greats, but anything would of been good.

They should of shown them wandering with a huge **** eating grin, speaking some odd language and leaving their drinks everywhere. I doubt they could of got the grin or the dialog correct.

I hate when they show ridiculous things that aren't there, like Bugs Bunny or whatever.

The visuals are more colors and trails and sounds echoing in your head, guitars carving deep blue ripples in the tissues of your mind, the silliest mood melting everything in sight and looking like you never did one thing wrong.

For me, time went by REAL slow, I would be into a long song and then realize it's the same song or thinking it was a lot later than it was. It was slow slow slow then bam, it's 3am and the trip is pretty much done.

The way they showed the cigarette shrinking was basically a sight gag. It was comical and farcical.
If you want to show Roger's distortion of time, you don't need the cigarette to actually shrink before our eyes. Just cutting away from the full cigarette to something else briefly, then cutting back to the nearly gone cigarette accomplishes time distortion without making the whole thing seem feel like a cheesy cartoon.