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04-17-2012 , 05:27 PM
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Why does she then suggest he goto her friends apartment? and why does don say thats the nicest way ive heard that said.. or something to that effect.
She's saying that if he's gay, she has a male friend who he could visit instead. Don's impressed by how she managed to make that suggestion without offense.
04-17-2012 , 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by SIThomer
When Don is approached by the Madam and explains he's not a cop just waiting for friends. Why does she then suggest he goto her friends apartment? and why does don say thats the nicest way ive heard that said.. or something to that effect.

also she then asks if he thinks she should get a tv and he responds no and she gives him free drinks. why?

great episode
As to the first: she's suggesting he might be gay.

As to the second: he's told her he grew up in a whorehouse. Anyone who grew up in a whorehouse would know not to put a TV in there - it's distracting from the business at hand. He charms her, so she buys him drinks.
04-17-2012 , 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Dids
She's saying that if he's gay, she has a male friend who he could visit instead. Don's impressed by how she managed to make that suggestion without offense.
didnt hear her say it was a guy thought she mentioned another place makes sense

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Originally Posted by Jigsaws
As to the first: she's suggesting he might be gay.

As to the second: he's told her he grew up in a whorehouse. Anyone who grew up in a whorehouse would know not to put a TV in there - it's distracting from the business at hand. He charms her, so she buys him drinks.
thank you both for answering and if i can try my luck with one additional question. whats the significance of don doodling a noose? isn't he happy?
04-17-2012 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Jigsaws
As to the first: she's suggesting he might be gay.

As to the second: he's told her he grew up in a whorehouse. Anyone who grew up in a whorehouse would know not to put a TV in there - it's distracting from the business at hand. He charms her, so she buys him drinks.
I was kind of scratching my head about what Don meant when he said he grew up in a whorehouse. Did he mean that Dick Whitman literally grew up in one (when did they reveal this)? I thought his Mom/stepdad were poor farmers, but it's possible that there's more that I have forgotten.

Or did he just mean that he used to go a lot so he kind of "grew up" in them in a figurative sense.
04-17-2012 , 05:41 PM
Melk,

Unclear. More likely the second. You're right that from what we know he didn't literally grow up in a whorehouse. Sepinwall suggested that his Dad might have just visited them a lot.

SIT,

I think what it means is that Don was drawing a noose and you can draw your own conclusions. I mean I've totally written "kill me now" in my notes during terrible meetings and it didn't mean anything other than it was a terrible meeting. I think the ambiguity it creates is basically the point.
04-17-2012 , 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by cres
and if she did hear about it, it wouldn't be anything more than a minor discussion. She has no self esteem issues, no jealousy, and if it was over she'd be down the road to another life situation. Don't mix Betty with Megan.
I don't believe this. She seemed to be getting somewhat tired of Don running into "old friends" (see elevator scene in last episode). She knows Don's history of unfaithfulness. I think it would be pretty hard to fathom Don at a whorehouse, not getting poon.

Surprisingly, Don is making an attempt to be faithful. However, I think it might make a fatalistic turn, ending in Don being alone again.
04-17-2012 , 06:39 PM
If she is bothered by it, she couldnt and wouldnt date Don.

This is not an issue and never will be. Megan actually assumes this (e.g. whorehouse, etc.) to be the case. The scene from the episode before, when she is graving sex suggests the same thing.

She wants Don, but she wont ever assume, that she is the best he could get.
04-17-2012 , 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ludacris
I don't believe this. She seemed to be getting somewhat tired of Don running into "old friends" (see elevator scene in last episode). She knows Don's history of unfaithfulness. I think it would be pretty hard to fathom Don at a whorehouse, not getting poon.

Surprisingly, Don is making an attempt to be faithful. However, I think it might make a fatalistic turn, ending in Don being alone again.
I may be off base on this part, but the girl was a figment of his fever. She was real to him, but not really there.
04-17-2012 , 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by cres
I may be off base on this part, but the girl was a figment of his fever. She was real to him, but not really there.
I was under the impression that she was really in the elevator when Megan met her, but wasn't real when she came to Don's apartment and he ****ed and killed her.
04-17-2012 , 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by cres
I may be off base on this part, but the girl was a figment of his fever. She was real to him, but not really there.
In his apartment, yes. In the elevator she was real.
04-17-2012 , 07:29 PM
Listening to the radio tonight as I was driving home tonight and heard the Mad Men version of "Zou Bisou Bisou"

Pretty impressive to hit the radio waves IMO
04-17-2012 , 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by cres
I may be off base on this part, but the girl was a figment of his fever. She was real to him, but not really there.
04-17-2012 , 10:35 PM
I want to see the gif of peggy walking to the door of the conference room before/after one of the meetings (may have been the fight), making a face and then slinking off.

Does anyone with DirecTV know when the eps go up on OnDemand? I wanted to rewatch today but only the first 3 eps were on and I couldn't find any replays coming up to DVR.
04-17-2012 , 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by WalterS
I want to see the gif of peggy walking to the door of the conference room before/after one of the meetings (may have been the fight), making a face and then slinking off.
this was great...there's no way she should have been anywhere near that door or showed her face
04-17-2012 , 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by SL__72
I think a more interesting (although possibly less likely?) explanation of "impossible" is that Megan thinks/knows their relationship wouldn't work with children and doesn't want to become his 2nd ex-wife/single mother.
i thought she was implying barrenness but this would actually make sense too...

have to echo this was top three episode for me as well, draper and sterlings reactions when pete and lane were about to fight were hilarious
04-17-2012 , 11:47 PM
lol she's probably on the pill
04-18-2012 , 12:01 AM
Loved Lane's scene with Joan and how he comes back from taking the moral high ground about corrupting his client to turn around and kiss the secretary when the door is closed. And then she gets up, opens the door, and sits back down and starts talking to him. Some really good subcontext.

Geez the combination of sound of the faucet dripping, watching Hansom work on Pete's crush, and the poem was devastating.
04-18-2012 , 12:22 AM
Two allusions to suicide in the first ten minutes, the second being Don's "A Saturday night in the suburbs? Something something shoot myself". And Cosgrove's story with the line "It might have been living in the country that was killing him".

Pete Campbell suicide attempt this season? Don't see how the show would work without him but a failed suicide attempt would be interesting.
04-18-2012 , 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by SIThomer
When Don is approached by the Madam and explains he's not a cop just waiting for friends. Why does she then suggest he goto her friends apartment? and why does don say thats the nicest way ive heard that said.. or something to that effect.......
She thought he must be gay.
04-18-2012 , 02:22 AM
Pretty outstanding ep, easily one of the best in a while. Somehow felt really long too.
04-18-2012 , 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by WalterS
I want to see the gif of peggy walking to the door of the conference room before/after one of the meetings (may have been the fight), making a face and then slinking off.


Also a longer version of the laughing gif:

04-18-2012 , 09:00 AM
Another exchange I thought was important. Don talking to Trudie on the phone:

Don: "If only your husband could close that well"
Trudie: "Oh you and I both know he's doing just fine"

I took that exchange to mean one of two things, both with the same outcome.

1) Trudie, growing up rich, knows how to play the game; lying gracefully and planting ideas in Don's head, knowing full well Pete is no Don
2) She's oblivious to Pete's general lack of skills and is truly under the impression he's doing fine.

Both paths I think lead to the same thing: Trudie definitely learns of Pete's infidelity but also learns of the context; an outing with an important client, good for Pete's career, happens to be in a whorehouse and he's trying to run with the big dogs, doing whatever it takes to do well in his career. She'll ultimately let it slide with the inner understanding that in the case of the above 1) This is what it takes when you're not the sharpest knife in the drawer or 2) Pete was just doing what he thought was best to win new business ie. WWDDD?
04-18-2012 , 09:25 AM
When it comes to Mad Men, somewhere between general speculation and specific prediction there is a line that is futile to attempt to cross.
04-18-2012 , 09:33 AM
Loool thatpfunk
04-18-2012 , 10:15 AM
Trudy can close Don better than Pete ever could. She took down every one of his excuses and got him to get out to the burbs all while holding a baby while Pete had that awkward " It's no secret we wanted you out here" or something moment

      
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