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I know in general, spelling doesn't count in FJ, but had *lambda* been a correct answer(it wasn't, but for the sake of argument), would misspelling it as "lamda" as one challenger did, have made the answer wrong, since the clue specified "when spelled out in English"?

i very much doubt it

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04-16-2015 , 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Yeti

i very much doubt it

This, especially when "Caspian sea and blac" was acceptable recently.

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04-16-2015 , 01:56 PM

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yeah, blac being accepted seemed like a terrible ruling.

It's one thing not to penalize spelling when an answer is obvious, this was just the person running out of time and not yet finishing her answer. We don't even know that she was going for black sea.

For that to be ruled correct and other misspellings costing people games because leaving out a vowel "changed the pronunciation of the word" or whatever is awful.

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04-16-2015 , 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by redirkulous

you need to have a rule. there's going to be issues no matter where you draw the line. the idea that 'we don't know whether she was going for black sea' and 'wow, jeopardy sure is nitty with their FJ policy' are pretty much incompatible - of course she was going for black sea.

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04-16-2015 , 03:06 PM

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Funnier thing to me is how bad an answer lambda is if you think it's spelled lamda!

I got epsilon and omicron pretty much instantly, but never would have come up with upsilon - don't think I even knew it was a thing.

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04-16-2015 , 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by gregorio

Optimal wager from Becky is 14,400

Strongly disagree with this. She is much more likely to miss If Alex misses therefore her most likely path to winning is a double wrong, not a solo correct. So betting small is correct. This bet the most possible concept commonly listed by wagering calculators is wrong in these cases.

Remember, She doesn't care about right-right since she loses.

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04-16-2015 , 08:12 PM

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ezpz

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04-16-2015 , 08:32 PM

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Alex just standing there waiting for the last 5 questions to be answered was funny

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04-16-2015 , 09:15 PM

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Really enjoying watching Alex so far!

The key difference I've noticed (compared to Arthur/Roger/etc) is that they didn't really do low DD bets in lock games. Not sure what optimal strategy is, but it's cool to see a different approach.

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04-16-2015 , 09:34 PM

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He's shoved plenty of times, too. I think it's category-dependent and I don't think he's as widely versed as Arthur or Roger. Plus he probably knew he was playing for a TOC berth here. Shutting out the opponents from the DD has a lot of value in that spot.

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04-16-2015 , 10:19 PM

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he ran pretty hot binking both DJ's almost back to back when he had like a 20-6-6 lead which could have been real close if his opponents got them but the first round last second Venice get was awesome

but I feel like his opponents were kind of donks and wouldn't have gone allin anyways

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04-16-2015 , 10:38 PM

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Prizm,

His first DD looked exactly like what I did "****, no idea. Italian, sea... Venice?"

Prob loses if he misses that. He went 1-1 on the other DD, middle guy did well in late game, and alex was only one to miss FJ.

If he has a long run, that Venice get will def be critical point.

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04-16-2015 , 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bazooka87

Futurama gave me the answers to two tonight (this and ambergris)

I always knew The Simpsons and Futurama both had very highly educated staff, but this:

The writing staff held three Ph.D.s, seven masters degrees, and cumulatively had more than 50 years at Harvard. Series writer Patric M. Verrone stated, "we were easily the most overeducated cartoon writers in history"

from the Futurama wiki blew my mind.

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04-17-2015 , 01:09 AM

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I don't think he loses even if he misses Venice, but I'd have to look at the game tape to be sure. At one point *before* the DDs in DJ, pretty sure he was over $20K while both opponents were under 4K. So he would have had them doubled in any case.

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04-17-2015 , 01:19 AM

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Pretty sure the Venice was another slowroll to a gimme DD. Either that or he was just burning time knowing he already had the answer. No chance he didn't know that instantly.

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04-17-2015 , 01:28 AM

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Pretty sure the Venice was another slowroll to a gimme DD. Either that or he was just burning time knowing he already had the answer. No chance he didn't know that instantly.

I doubt this very much from his reaction.

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04-17-2015 , 01:37 AM

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Pretty sure the Venice was another slowroll to a gimme DD. Either that or he was just burning time knowing he already had the answer. No chance he didn't know that instantly.

Wtf, are you inside his head? On that Cromwell answer he missed, Trebek didn't even give him the "need an answer" warning, he just got buzzed for taking too long. He was dangerously close to that happening on the Venice one.

I do think it's possible, like the Hoover Dam answer, that he thought of it and had it as his "if I can't think of anything better, blurt it out response", but that's hardly slowrolling.

And how come he answered so quickly on "The Firm", "Rich Man, Poor Man", and exoskeleton DDs (probably others I'm forgetting)?

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04-17-2015 , 01:51 AM

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zero chance venice was a slowroll

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04-17-2015 , 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by joel2006

Pretty sure the Venice was another slowroll to a gimme DD. Either that or he was just burning time knowing he already had the answer. No chance he didn't know that instantly.

So much different in the hotseat on an allofit DD than watching at home.

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04-17-2015 , 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by legend42

Assuming all the picks go in the same order...

A) he'd have a lot less going into the first DD
B) where he'd probably bet some significant amount that he loses
C) then he'd have relatively low amount going into second daily double
D) where he'd probably bet some significant amount that he wins

Given that sequence, I don't see how he gets to double middle guy's final score.

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04-17-2015 , 08:24 AM

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lol joel

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04-17-2015 , 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by legend42

His Daily Double strategy is more dependent on the situation than the category. Early in the game, he shoves. Once he's done that and pushed his lead to the point where the game is a lock, he continues to hunt Daily Doubles so his opponents can't use them, and he makes extremely conservative bets.