Sorry, didn't mean to come across as smug about it. Apologies if so.

If they really did play this "trick", and photog guy was in on it as you are saying, then why did Mary (photog's wife) not tell him what she and jimmy's wife were whispering about?

Also, payback is owed to Jimmy for the beating. Not Jimmy's wife.

- I loved the open of this ep, as I've posted before I really geta kick out of the running Hardeen gag and as soon as the ep opened ona guy hanging upside down I said "hardeen! He's just as good!!"

- I love the Tin Man. "I will kill the mother. The sisters. And the dentist." So good.

- Whole episode was great except the Beer Baron, which is just too silly. He's the dramatic equivilant of like Michael Scott, there's a line he simply crosses into absurdity sometimes.

Yeah, the guy is badass.

Regarding the Ponzi scheme, do they have to bring every news story of the 20's into this show? I'm surprised they haven't had the Miss America Pageant, which started in AC in the early 20's.

They talk about a pageant in episode 2 or 3. On the boardwalk when Nucky is helping the guy seduce the young girl (the couple that ends up finding the survivor in the woods).

can someone tell me who he was talking about in this scene? i couldnt really understand what he said or what he was talking about

I think it was the brother and the family of the two guys that were killed last episode inside Chalky's plant (I forgot their names).

Yeah, rest of the Philly crew

i completely agree. even though he plays a boot legging gangster he shouldnt be allowed to draw guns because of a previous character he played in another show.

or white people with power behind them considering the time period. even without witnesses though you've gotta think van alden will be a suspect in sebsos murder. very interesting to see what happens to val alden considering hes on thin ice & his boss is already considering transferring him to the middle of nowhere.

i must say i did not see Van Alden killing sebso coming.

Dellesio (sp?) brothers

he def found the note after she left it, unless there's some twist where his mom (or someone else) came by and stumbled upon it. she went right for it when she came home, but it was gone, then he was all like "boo".

i don't really get why she didn't just go right home and get it though. seemed like they left in the day time to pick up the photographer's wife and leave for the boat, but then it looked like night time when she arrived home. unless she just wants out of their relationship one way or the other (letting Jimmy find the note and have him blow up), then it doesn't jive. unless i got this all wrong, which is also very possible.

I thought this was a really good episode, except for the baptism, which was terrible.

I realize I have to be more clear here - there are strong hints of either a past or future sexual relationship with Jimmy and his mom. At some point it will be brought to a head one way or the other...probably in a semi-seduction scene that ultimately doesn't go anywhere or something like that, but there is a non-zero chance that they bang.

Posting so I can quote this next week or in the years to come. And I realize it's probably obvious to many of you (but in this thread, who knows).

It may have been late afternoon already at the boardwalk, and it might be a long trek from the boardwalk to the apartment, involving taxis etc. A stop for ice cream or something like that was alluded to as well, no? Ultimately most shows play with time in some way to edit the narrative into a convenient order.

There's a reason Van Alden was holding up his gun and his badge when he walked away from the murder, those people aren't saying ****.

Also +1 to Nucky's line about Hardeen being entertaining, but nobody would give a **** if he wasn't Houdini's brother being so excellent.

Please forgive me for this tangent question, but I've seen lots of talk about "The Wire" (specifically Chalky) and was wondering if it was worth netflixing the show.

I think your interpretation is a bit off. The photographer didn't know about "the scheme" his wife and Jimmy's were discussing at the time; he probably suspected they were being secretive about something, but he accepted his wife's "girl talk" explanation, and chides her a bit, by saying "you sure do you enjoy your little games."

She retorts back by saying, "you certainly seem to enjoy them"; with that, she's alluding to the lesbian relationship that he, the photographer, probably cultivated in the hopes of having sex with Angela and his wife in a threesome at a later time. By saying that, she's implying her husband is a a skeeze, a lecher, and nothing more: "you're certainly willing to entertain our 'games' when you think you'll get sex out of it."

To which he replies extemporaneously in French to his wife: "Very wicked, my love." I guess he sounded appropriately hurt, so she relents from her snappy attitude, and kisses him on the head -- because she realizes loves him. As the shot ends, we see her looking hauntingly out the window of their store because she's realizing she can't follow through with her arrangement with Angela. We're left to surmise the next day when Angela finds the Dietrichs gone that the wife spilled everything to her husband during the night, and Angela is crushed because she fulfilled their shared "Paris dream" with him instead of her.

It wasn't a trick. It was a genuine change of heart.

wtf at Constantine making a beautifully eloquent, well-thought-out, reasonable post? And is YouAreWet leveling?

I don't know what's real anymore.

No level

Yes, watch the wire. It's brilliant. A different class of television.

Idk if there was any symbolism to it but he was in a jesus type pose walking..

Move it to the top of your list.

Yup, there's def a sexual tension there. I've been saying the same thing.

THIS. It's in a whole other league.