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Originally Posted by ChrisV
Yeah, no. Read the FAQ.
You know, I just did (long, but I skimmed!), but it's very Preston Jacobs-ey. I don't think he considers the fact that GRRM simply screwed up. That is far more likely than...
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
Yeah. The simplest solution is that Dorne were harboring them and that the reveal will just be that Dorne have been Targ loyalists and in rebellion against Robert from day 1.
which is convoluted, complex, and also internally consistent. from someone else I read:
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1) “Trees did not grow on Braavos, save in the courts and gardens of the mighty.” Which is precisely where li’l Dany was living.
2) There’s no indication that Dany and Viserys were ever separated.
3) I see no reason for Viserys to later lie to Dany about where the house with the red door was.
4) Unless you plan on launching the counter-revolution immediately, exile actually makes a lot more sense than squirreling yourself away somewhere in Westeros.
5) Doran Martell is a hyper-cautious man, even as he gradually advances his plans. He was willing to send Arianne to Tyrosh to meet Viserys, in secret, under the guise of fosterage. It would be entirely OOC for him to have hosted Dany and Viserys in Dorne.
6) And even if he did, why then send them away? Why give control of them over to Illyrio? It’s pretty clear that Varys and Illyrio aren’t in league with the Martells, after all. (Not yet.)
7) Why wouldn’t Doran tell Quentyn this? It would’ve been such a helpful revelation for him to spring on Dany: I’m here to bring you back to your childhood home. We kept you safe, now we’re ready to help you win your birthright.
I’m sure there are more reasons that I’m forgetting, but that’s plenty. Like I said about the whole Mance = Arthur Dayne thing, this is inventing a mystery where there is none and solving it with nonsense.
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Q: Let’s be real here: can we acknowledge that the lemon tree thing is probably a Doylist failure on Martin’s part, because he liked the lemon tree symbology and probably, in 1996, did not actually sit down and figure out the precise logistics about just how immensely difficult it would be to keep a lemon tree not just surviving, but thriving well enough to bear fruit and be aesthetically pleasing in a northern environment that doesn’t get a lot of sun and that is cold an awful lot?
And that that’s okay?
Not everything has to be seamless.
A: Oh, absolutely! But I think that’s precisely why he threw that line about trees in the gardens of the wealthy into AFFC. Still doesn’t necessarily add up logistically, but it’s a direct refutation to theories like this.
IOW, GRRM heard the theory, realized he screwed up, and threw the line in there for consistency sake. That's exactly the reason for the line. does it make it all perfect? no, but he was trying
Last edited by Kneel B4 Zod; 07-25-2017 at 10:04 AM.